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06-23-2011, 10:27 PM
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Huge Realignment for 2012/2013 Season?

Saw this on the jets board. Thought it was interesting.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2011/06/22/...-major-changes

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Sources say under Bettman’s proposal, the league will have four divisions: Pacific, Midwest, East and South.

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The top four teams in each division would make the playoffs. The first round would be divisonal play, the teams would then re-seed for conference play. Bettman’s idea would not affect a East-West Stanley Cup final matchup

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With 30 teams, one division in each conference will have eight squads while the other will have seven.
If true, what do you all think about this?

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Different, But i like it, easier to make playoffs!

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I normally just read and dont post, BUT! I absolutley hate the plan, let me guess the south and pacific division which will contain a total of 1 canadian team will have seven teams, while the east and midwest will have 8 -For comparision the MLB is finalyyy working their flawed system with a NL division having 6 and an AL with 4 my moving the Astros over- Further pandering to the sub par american market as always.

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The first round would be an absolute war ever year. That sounds pretty interesting, I must admit.

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only way i see it working is if the league expands by 2 teams.
Quebec and Vegas / Seattle maybe.

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i think they need to expand the playoffs to more teams.

maybe they can do 20 teams but 4 are wild cards or something.

all i know is the east this year was super tight and a lot of good teams that should have done well are still considered failures.

if we want teams to succeed they need to make the playoffs even if they are a wild card that plays a best or 3 or even 1 game against the last seeded team in every division.

so basically instead of the top 4 from each division making it the 4 and 5 th seeded teams play 1 to best of 3 games for the 4th spot.

they could even have the 5th from lets say the east play the 4th from the south and vise versa for that... which may make for some interesting cross divisional rivalries TBH.

just throwing idea's out there

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Different, But i like it, easier to make playoffs!

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I like it, its basically what the NHL used to do back in the day, divisional playoff matchups in the first round.

What would be the east and western conferences though? East and south in the east, and pacific and midwest in the west?

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Need... 32... teams...

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Need... 32... teams...
or a better solution..... 28!!!!!

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That picture of Bettman is flattering.

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I normally just read and dont post, BUT! I absolutley hate the plan, let me guess the south and pacific division which will contain a total of 1 canadian team will have seven teams, while the east and midwest will have 8 -For comparision the MLB is finalyyy working their flawed system with a NL division having 6 and an AL with 4 my moving the Astros over- Further pandering to the sub par american market as always.
I need some bread crumbs to find my way out of this post. You're upset that there wouldn't be Canadian teams in a southern division (just how far south do you think Canada goes?), and that Houston changing leagues is evidence that America is a sub-par market for hockey?

I think the phrase the kids use in these situations is "what is this i don't even".

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I like the idea of moving back to four divisions and having intra-divisional playoffs for the first round.

The one tweak I would suggest is altering the playoff qualifiers slightly, basically using the CFL model. Here's what I would propose:
- Top three teams in each division automatically make the playoffs.
- In determining the 7th and 8th "seeds", the two teams with the best records qualify regardless of the division they play in. As such, one division could have 5 teams in the playoffs.
- If the above scenario happens, then the 8th-seeded team would play in the other division and would face the division winner.

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I like the idea of moving back to four divisions and having intra-divisional playoffs for the first round.

The one tweak I would suggest is altering the playoff qualifiers slightly, basically using the CFL model. Here's what I would propose:
- Top three teams in each division automatically make the playoffs.
- In determining the 7th and 8th "seeds", the two teams with the best records qualify regardless of the division they play in. As such, one division could have 5 teams in the playoffs.
- If the above scenario happens, then the 8th-seeded team would play in the other division and would face the division winner.
Correct me if Im wrong, but doesn't the AHL use this method as well?

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Correct me if Im wrong, but doesn't the AHL use this method as well?
I don't know. Quite possibly.

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I like it.

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I don't know. Quite possibly.
I think it does, I like the idea as well. I'm no Bettman hater but one thing I always disliked was him and the NHL switching up the conference names, if we went back to 4 divisions and brought all the old names back it would be awesome, although im not expecting it.

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If we could get rid of two team (Phoenix and Florida, I'm looking at you), then this would be absolutely amazing. I hate the idea of have a division with 8 teams, 50% making the playoffs, and another with only 7 teams, 57% making the playoffs.

Better idea, what if the 5th place team in the 8 team division is better then the 4th place team in the 7 team division, they get their playoffs spot in a crossover? That could take out the need for eliminating two teams.

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Correct me if Im wrong, but doesn't the AHL use this method as well?
Sorry, i am trolling but you are correct. That is how Binghamton made the playoffs. They were 5th in their division but jumped over to the other one. The only difference i see is the first 2 rounds in the AHL are in the same division where the NHL is talking about just the first round being in the division from what i hear.

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If we could get rid of two team (Phoenix and Florida, I'm looking at you), then this would be absolutely amazing. I hate the idea of have a division with 8 teams, 50% making the playoffs, and another with only 7 teams, 57% making the playoffs.

Better idea, what if the 5th place team in the 8 team division is better then the 4th place team in the 7 team division, they get their playoffs spot in a crossover? That could take out the need for eliminating two teams.
It wasn't really an issue in the old Patrick Division, which had an extra team. If anything, that was less fair considering there was another team in the same conference with five teams. At least under this proposal each division within its own conference has the same number of teams.

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Needs a crossover rule to work IMO

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If they did, the division names would probably be, Northeast, Southeast, Northwest, Southwest.. But I am also with them to bring back the actual names of divisions

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only way i see it working is if the league expands by 2 teams.
Quebec and Vegas / Seattle maybe.
I completely agree.. that and I would love to see more teams get added and eventually take over the world

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Nobody likes the current point distribution/seeding rules, according to an "anonymous" executive? How about screw the realignment and bring back the tie. Yeah, I said it. The game got by with them for about a century just fine. No more bogus three point games. Why should some games be worth more than others? Winnipeg can switch to the Western Conference next season and Detroit can join the East. Small tinker. Balance attained.

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I need some bread crumbs to find my way out of this post. You're upset that there wouldn't be Canadian teams in a southern division (just how far south do you think Canada goes?), and that Houston changing leagues is evidence that America is a sub-par market for hockey?

I think the phrase the kids use in these situations is "what is this i don't even".
He is upset that Canadian teams will be in divisions of 8, while the divisions of 7 will be full of southern American teams. It is a good point - this proposal would seriously hurt Ottawa's chances at the playoffs.

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