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Round 1: Pick #15 (J.T. Miller, F)

View Poll Results: Are you satisfied with the NYR 1st Round Pick? (do NOT vote until player is drafted)
Very Happy 57 20.80%
Somewhat Satisfied 91 33.21%
Neutral 34 12.41%
A little unhappy, but I can live with it 22 8.03%
I'm furious at Slats and Gordie 8 2.92%
I don't know enough to have an opinion 62 22.63%
Voters: 274. You may not vote on this poll

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06-24-2011, 09:32 PM
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How many years will it take for him to be in the NHL? 1? 2?

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06-24-2011, 09:33 PM
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"I play like a Chris Kunitz," Miller told Pittsburh Post-Gazette the other day. "I'm a little taller, but I like the energy he plays with."
Kunitz.....

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06-24-2011, 09:35 PM
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After reading this, I feel really good about picking JT
Absolutely.

As i have been saying.

This kid is the whole package. All the tools mentally and physically to not only make it and be a good player, but he has that work ethic and character, like Kreider, to make himself as good a player as he can be.

Love this pick. Love it.

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06-24-2011, 09:36 PM
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"I'm not going to lie, I was a little bit shocked. I had one meeting with (the Rangers) so I wasn't really expecting this. But hearing my name called was the best feeling in the world. I thought (the Rangers) liked me, but other teams had shown more interest it seemed. So it was a bit of a shock, breathtaking really. The best feeling."

"I think I'm a pretty competitive kid. I always am willing to compete and I am always hard to play against. And I had a good post-season tournament in Germany, and I think that really helped to push me over the top."

"I followed the Penguins (growing up in Pittsburgh), but I am looking forward to bringing my family to (New York City). When the Pens won the Cup a few years back that was pretty emotional for me. But I am a Ranger now. I wear the Rangers jersey!"

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How many years will it take for him to be in the NHL? 1? 2?
Two. Tops.

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06-24-2011, 09:38 PM
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On a real good team, Callahan and Dubi might be third line grinders.
Only on the Sharks and Flyers, and maybe 2-3 other teams.

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06-24-2011, 09:40 PM
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He compares himself to Chris Kunitz.
Unfortunately he won't have Crosby or Getzlaf passing to him.

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06-24-2011, 09:41 PM
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Not really happy.

Guy will be a 3rd line player. Hooray. The closest he will get to Dubinsky and M. Richards is sniffing their jocks.

Great he plays hard, he still lacks offensive talent.

And another guy going the terrible NCAA route? Great, so he can play 40 games next season with 12 minutes of ice time a game. Awesome.

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06-24-2011, 09:43 PM
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Not really happy.

Guy will be a 3rd line player. Hooray. The closest he will get to Dubinsky and M. Richards is sniffing their jocks.

Great he plays hard, he still lacks offensive talent.

And another guy going the terrible NCAA route? Great, so he can play 40 games next season with 12 minutes of ice time a game. Awesome.
Just admit you know nothing about the player or NCAA hockey.

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06-24-2011, 09:45 PM
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Not really happy.

Guy will be a 3rd line player. Hooray. The closest he will get to Dubinsky and M. Richards is sniffing their jocks.

Great he plays hard, he still lacks offensive talent.

And another guy going the terrible NCAA route? Great, so he can play 40 games next season with 12 minutes of ice time a game. Awesome.
Dude. At least try, here.

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On a real good team, Callahan and Dubi might be third line grinders.
To me, "grinder" isn't always necessarily what line you play on, it's how you play the game and what you're capable of. And Dubinsky & Callahan have proven they can be impact players who do a little bit of everything - score important goals, set up plays, forecheck hard and bang, make defensive plays, sacrifice their bodies to block shots, drop the gloves to stick up for a teammate, etc.... The phrase "3rd line grinder" always has a negative connotation to me because it implies a limited game on the player's part... I think a lot of teams, evne the ones with much better depth up front, would skate a player like Callahan or Dubinsky in their Top 6 regardless, because they bring a certain presence out on the ice and might compliment more skilled maybe more finesse players quite nicely.

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Not really happy.

Guy will be a 3rd line player. Hooray. The closest he will get to Dubinsky and M. Richards is sniffing their jocks.

Great he plays hard, he still lacks offensive talent.

And another guy going the terrible NCAA route? Great, so he can play 40 games next season with 12 minutes of ice time a game. Awesome.
Are you kidding? This kid has tons of offensive talent. Great playmaker, good shooter, great hands. He has incredible tools.

Just because he isn't soft doesn't mean he lacks offensive talent.

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06-24-2011, 09:46 PM
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Just admit you know nothing about the player or NCAA hockey.
I know that Kreider is rotting away there playing 12 minutes a game. Barely developed from last season to this season.

OHL would have been 10x better for Miller.

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"I'm not going to lie, I was a little bit shocked. I had one meeting with (the Rangers) so I wasn't really expecting this. But hearing my name called was the best feeling in the world. I thought (the Rangers) liked me, but other teams had shown more interest it seemed. So it was a bit of a shock, breathtaking really. The best feeling."

"I think I'm a pretty competitive kid. I always am willing to compete and I am always hard to play against. And I had a good post-season tournament in Germany, and I think that really helped to push me over the top."

"I followed the Penguins (growing up in Pittsburgh), but I am looking forward to bringing my family to (New York City). When the Pens won the Cup a few years back that was pretty emotional for me. But I am a Ranger now. I wear the Rangers jersey!"

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Kreider should be taking notes. ****ing Boston fan.

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I definitely prefer the WHL or OHL for development over the NCAA in general, but I think Kreider's ice time at BC is coloring some opinions about NCAA hockey.

Not all teams are as seniority oriented as BC is. North Dakota is one of the best hockey development school.

Notable alumni off the top of my head: Jonathan Toews, Zach Parise, Travis Zajac, Drew Stafford, and T.J. Oshie.

Although BC wins national championships too, I MUCH prefer North Dakota for player development purposes.

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Tons of offensive talent? Wouldn't say that.

I like the Dubi comparison. We'd be lucky to end up with another Dubi in the top 6.

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I really like the pick. Admittedly, McNeill would have been my guy, but this kid has some exciting potential. A hard working power forward who is very raw, but is exactly what this team hasnt had in a while.

Personally, I see a lot of Adam Graves in him. The only real question is how much of a scorer he becomes. This one may take a while, ala Andrew Ladd.

I like his odds of being an NHLer, how much he scores is TBD. But if he puts it together, you're going to have a heck of a player in a 6'2, 210 pound frame.

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I love work ethic players, and I was sick of D-men, so this works great.

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I know that Kreider is rotting away there playing 12 minutes a game. Barely developed from last season to this season.

OHL would have been 10x better for Miller.
UND is not BC. Hopefully Fitzy will chime in tomorrow. UND is very similar to Wisconsin and Michigan development wise. Young kids play and develop.

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Wrong again.

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I know that Kreider is rotting away there playing 12 minutes a game. Barely developed from last season to this season.

OHL would have been 10x better for Miller.
Stop stat watching. If you watched Kreider play you would know he is indeed developing fine.

Miller will play 40+ games in college, 10-12 games with the US U-20 team meaning about 50-55 games next season. Thats nothing to scoff at when he will be playing against players much more physically developed than the players in juniors.

North Dakota is an NHL factory.

Kristo, who played with Stepan on the gold medal winning U-20 team and Brock Nelson who was on the U-20 team last year on on that team and they play big minutes.

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I know that Kreider is rotting away there playing 12 minutes a game. Barely developed from last season to this season.

OHL would have been 10x better for Miller.
UND is significantly better at developing NHL players than BC. Just look up the history.

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I know that Kreider is rotting away there playing 12 minutes a game. Barely developed from last season to this season.

OHL would have been 10x better for Miller.
I have to agree, i think the OHL route is the best route to go for youngsters. They play lots of games, get lots of mins, playoffs, memorial cup etc. NCAA is more of a prep for Euro hockey in a way, not that those who play there play in Europe but i dont think its the best lead up to NHL hockey, OHL, Western and Quebec leagues seem best.

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Not really happy.

Guy will be a 3rd line player. Hooray. The closest he will get to Dubinsky and M. Richards is sniffing their jocks.

Great he plays hard, he still lacks offensive talent.

And another guy going the terrible NCAA route? Great, so he can play 40 games next season with 12 minutes of ice time a game. Awesome.
Do you know anything about the program he is with? You look at the numbers put up in the OHL and just assume its the better league. Sad.

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Wrong again.
Someone is doing a great job embarrassing them self today.

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