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With the #10 pick in the first round, the Wild select Jonas Brodin(now signed to ELC)

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06-26-2011, 02:05 AM
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I think they want to get him with the Aeros...

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06-26-2011, 02:18 AM
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Wow, I'd be really impressed if he plays in Houston pretty soon.

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So it appears that they think Brodin will skate here sooner than later. Man! Having a 19 year old defenseman from Sweden on the team, that is a rarity...
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Wow, I'd be really impressed if he plays in Houston pretty soon.
I'd be really surprised if he comes over next year but I suppose 2012-13 is a possibility (although I think he would need some time in the AHL).

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Clearly the biggest downside to this pick:

Well, you know what you gotta do know. Google Jonas Brodin so often he comes up as the first option.

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06-26-2011, 04:53 AM
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I don't. I feel even worse now.

Maybe it's finally time to change my avatar (surely Brodin won't be in it ).
Two nights and I feel even better.

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06-26-2011, 05:46 AM
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Two nights and I feel even better.
Good for you. I'm trying hard, but...

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06-26-2011, 05:55 AM
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The biggest dissapointment for me was that I had spent the last 3 months trying to figure the best fit for us and then we ended up with someone I had heard first time 2 weeks before the draft and had not paid attention to. But the trade turned it upside down, now we have a solid defensive prospect that should atleast make it to the 3rd pairing, hopefully a solid top pairing guy. If people are saying he was great in SEL with 0+4 there must be something in his game that stats jus won't tell. Especially the "never makes mistakes part" :

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06-26-2011, 09:09 AM
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Well Mikko was drafted 6th overall after getting one single point in 21 games. Zibanejad was drafted high after getting 9 points in 26 games. Even Adam Larsson was only 9 points in 37 games.

But looking at Brodin's career, he's never put up goals at any level, and never really amassed tons of assists. Then again, neither has Larsson, although he's had slightly better production.

I guess with European prospects you have to rely far more on scouting than on raw stats, especially when you have kids playing kids versus kids playing men.

And that makes Granlund even more impressive, that he can play against grown men and rack up the points!

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06-26-2011, 09:38 AM
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We didn't select him for points, clearly. one of the most fluid skaters in the draft according to one ops guy. one of the scouts said "beautiful skater". very, very smart. a little shy.

he's a defenseman who's strengths appear to be mobility and intelligence. I'm alright with that.

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We didn't select him for points, clearly. one of the most fluid skaters in the draft according to one ops guy. one of the scouts said "beautiful skater". very, very smart. a little shy.

he's a defenseman who's strengths appear to be mobility and intelligence. I'm alright with that.
Yeah, but his skating ability doesn't completely explain why we chose him over Murphy and Beaulieu; those both are excellent skaters too.

I agree, he's a smart guy, and reliable if he can translate his game into NHL level.

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06-26-2011, 06:00 PM
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When Bob McKenzie compares the kid to Lidstrom... I gotta perk my ears up.

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Apparently, he has vision, smarts, and skates very well. You can get stronger, older pretty easily, but what he's got are the hardest to learn, if possible at all. "Natural ability" I believe is the term.

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Apparently, he has vision, smarts, and skates very well. You can get stronger, older pretty easily, but what he's got are the hardest to learn, if possible at all. "Natural ability" I believe is the term.
Got to agree, hardest or even impossible. That's also why RNH was the first overall pick.

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When Bob McKenzie compares the kid to Lidstrom... I gotta perk my ears up.
I have seen him compared to Ryan Suter in a few different places. From everything that i have read about him, he sounds like a better skating version of Paul Martin.

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At any rate, all the comparisons have been to pretty darn good players. I questioned the pick at the time but decided to do a little digging. When his only knock is that he's not bulky enough I really can't complain.

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06-26-2011, 07:01 PM
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Just because Brodin wasn´t on many mock-drafts on the internet doesn´t mean he´s not on a lot of scouts lists. I think he was pretty high on most scouts lists, and i rather have him than murphy who i don´t think will translate well into NHL-level. Good pick IMO.

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06-26-2011, 07:04 PM
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Well Mikko was drafted 6th overall after getting one single point in 21 games. Zibanejad was drafted high after getting 9 points in 26 games. Even Adam Larsson was only 9 points in 37 games.

But looking at Brodin's career, he's never put up goals at any level, and never really amassed tons of assists. Then again, neither has Larsson, although he's had slightly better production.

I guess with European prospects you have to rely far more on scouting than on raw stats, especially when you have kids playing kids versus kids playing men.

And that makes Granlund even more impressive, that he can play against grown men and rack up the points!
Remember that Granlund is older and he gets more icetime.

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06-26-2011, 07:06 PM
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i go back to one of the things that they talked about briefly on XM Home Ice leading up to the draft.

Supposedly, Brodin had the highest marks on the post-exertion aptitude test.

The one that measures problem solving after a two minute extreme physical exertion test? I don't know what it's called.

That, to me, says a lot. The ability to think while gassed?

Granted, I've only played a few games of JMS, but even there, I see people make really bad decisions if they've been out there for two or three minutes. It's almost like after two minutes of heavy exertion, they realize that they need to get off the ice, so they dump the puck. Only, that open ice their brain saw was clogged with opponents...

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06-26-2011, 07:09 PM
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Remember that Granlund is older and he gets more icetime.
Older than who? He had almost PPG as a 17-year-old rookie in SM-Liiga!

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06-26-2011, 07:51 PM
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Murphy>Brodin

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Murphy>Brodin
Thanks for that insightful post.
Me >> You.

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06-26-2011, 09:14 PM
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wow people need to have a reality check, Murphy has skill no doubt but he played vs kids where Brodin played vs men and DID NOT LOOK OUT OF PLACE, did you know brodin at the same age scored more then lidstrom did in SEL? did you know that at the same age he scored more then Edler, or Oliver eckman-larsson, this kids tools all but one is NHL ready and that one is his need for his body to mature which is easy with nutrition experts and trainers to do and his work ethic.

he has elite skating already, elite decision making, elite passing, he has so many elite skills its crazy the only real two drawbacks are one his frame which is given for his age, and two we don't know how offensive he is but given he has the smarts and wheels at an elite level and his vision is crazy awesome i'm sure he'll come along fine.

people this was a great pick, this guy is our 2nd best prospect and no we don't have anyone like him, first off we don't have any elite skaters prospect or roster, 2nd we don't have any guys with elite vision, he has both, not to mention his poise, his making it look easy, his not looking out of place at age 17 in the SEL on a CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM.

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When you put it that way, he's a dam good player.

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06-27-2011, 01:20 AM
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Murphy>Brodin
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Murphy>Brodin
Murphy is also different than Brodin.

There are more than just two types of defensemen emerging in the NHL.

Murphy is probably going to be a power play specialist and a top 5 defenseman, if he continues to progress.

Brodin can be a top 2 defenseman due to the fact he is not a liability in his own end, makes crisp, beautiful outlet passes and is knows the flow of the game.

There used to be; stay at home, physical types (who can or cannot score) and then there were offensive defensemen.

Now there are massive physical types that have offense, offensive defensemen that are power play specialist, puck possession defensemen that neither can score a lot of points but aren't guys that run people over, pluggers and more.

Puck possession and breaking out of your own zone is an art form that is hard to teach. Minnesota has been missing one of those guys since Johnsson. And guess what? We got him back in a guy who's upside is astounding.

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I'd say Brodins offensive side is better than he has yet shown. He is quite shy both on and off the ice, and the first half of the season when he got ice time cuz of injuries he just wanted to play easy and not make any mistakes.

The longer the season progressed he did longer and longer transports with the puck and as his coinfidence grew with every game. He even went solo sometimes at the end of the season.

This time he goes into the season knowing he has a spot on the roster. He knows all the guys on the team already. He won gold last season so he got huge amount of experience from that.
I'd say we will see Jonas Brodin going abit more offensive next season, even tho he's still gonna play his way of the game.

Here's the only goal by him that is up on youtube I think.
Final 4, his goal meant 1-1.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr9-Z6fHFzM

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