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06-26-2011, 11:07 AM
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Kings Fans- Tell me about Wayne Simmonds

Flyers fan coming in peace. I've read some things about Wayne Simmonds to get a general idea of what type of player he is now, I must confess I myself haven't seen too many Kings games in the past.

So, just asking, what type of player is Wayne Simmonds now and what type of player can he be? Is it max potential 25g/25a? Is that too high or too low? Is he gonna top out as just a good 3rd liner or does he have Top 6 potential?

I understand he is solid in his own end. Did he get a lot of time on the PK in LA? Is he a short-handed threat at all?

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06-26-2011, 11:14 AM
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He is a bigger party animal than Richards!

Some think he has 2nd line potential, but his hockey sense and puck handling leave a lot to be desired. He goes off sides way too much and has a hard time receiving passes. Of course, he's only 22 and already has 3 NHL seasons in him. Still developing.

You will love his effort and he has an effective wrist shot. He will stand up for his teammates and drop the gloves. He will be a fan favorite for years to come.

I see him as a 15/40 kind of player, but he could become a 20/50 2nd liner. He may have a couple of 25+ goal seasons in him.

He did not kill penaties for the Kings. He was very ineffective on the PP when he was given a chance, but the Kings PP was horrible overall.

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He has some nasty dangles. I look forward to seeing what he can do in an offense-heavy system. He's very streaky and somewhat inconsistent in his intensity but when he's on his game he's a force.

Worst case scenario he's a third line two-way type for his whole career, best case a complementary second line guy.

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hes gritty and brings a lot of energy.....good at moving the puck along the boards and cycling it. its hard to take the puck from him. he has troubles takin it to the net and scoring tho. i dont see him putting in more than 20 goals (for now), but hes good at keeping the puck at the other end of the ice and getting momentum going. defensively hes solid but nothing special

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06-26-2011, 12:03 PM
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His nickname is THE NIGHT TRAIN!

One underrated part of his game is his ability to fetch pucks out of the corner. The Flyers don't dump and chase a whole lot, but the Kings offense was predicated on it, which made Simmonds ideal for our system. At least a couple times a game, he'd go 1-1 into a corner with a d-man and somehow emerge with the puck. His ability to contort his body to give himself an angle to fish the puck from the boards is amazing.

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His nickname is THE NIGHT TRAIN!

One underrated part of his game is his ability to fetch pucks out of the corner. The Flyers don't dump and chase a whole lot, but the Kings offense was predicated on it, which made Simmonds ideal for our system. At least a couple times a game, he'd go 1-1 into a corner with a d-man and somehow emerge with the puck. His ability to contort his body to give himself an angle to fish the puck from the boards is amazing.
They don't play dump and chase as much as they have in the past, but they aren't the greatest at carrying the play into the zone either. Especially when they go into their "we can't break a trap to save our lives" offense.

How is he in front of the net?

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dammit i love Simmonds

last year he took a step back, but he should really well in a Philly system

i find him too hyper at times making him crash the net or do extra dekes and fall...but i love that type of energy, he is young and im sure he will learn to master those things and control himself a bit more

a fine fine player with energy & heart

i expected top 6 potential, but after last year...dunno anymore

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He was a surprise when he was picked,a surprise when he made the team at 19, and a surprise at how quickly he won over kings fans with his heart and toughness so don't be surprised at how much you guys will enjoy his play lol......he is a good 3rd liner who has filled in at both first and second lines, should get 20 goals a few times...enjoy

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I'll miss the way Wayne Simmonds skates like a spider walks and no more yelling "Wayne's World" from the 300 level anymore. I can make my Wayne's World hat available to a Flyer fan. i think it is the trunk of my car under some empty bags of doritos.

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Simmonds doesn't do so well in front of the net. He's definitely not in the Ryan Smyth mold where he's just going to park there. He's got a good quick wrist shot when he has the space to release it.

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He's physical but not exactly a hitter. He'll lean on guys, he'll work the corners and do the dirty job. He can dangle surprisingly well if given the space. His skating is kind of awkward but his speed is at least average. He'll fight, protect team mates and work hard. His shot is pretty good for a grinder. I wouldn't call him a guy whose great in front of the net but he will drive there and pot the occasional rebound for sure.

You're gonna love him. Don't expect a top 6 guy, expect a good 3rd line heart and soul type of player.

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When Simmonds is on his game he is tenacious with the puck-both is his pursuit and possession. He is also a great scrapper for his size.

Last season for whatever reason he wasnt bringing it like he did his first couple of seasons which raised some red flags.

When he is on his game he is a valued 3rd liner. Probably a 2nd liner on a bad team or good enough to spot a couple of games here and there. Will miss Simmonds for sure and will be interesting to see if he can bring it every night in Philly like he did his first couple of seasons in LA and really hope we can see a Simmonds/Avery fight some point next year.

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Simmonds is a solid, gritty, two way forward. He learned a lot from playing with Handzus the past couple years, and as a result, he's very good on the penalty kill.

His offensive upside is somewhat limited. He's more likely to score a goal with a wrist shot from 10-15 feet out as opposed to parking himself in front of the net and fighting for space.

He's put on more muscle, but still slight in build.

He regressed a bit this year, rumored because him and Doughty partied a bit together. But, he had a solid rookie season.

He'll be good for anything between 20-40 points on a regular basis, while playing responsibly on the defensive zone and tough throughout the ice. You'll love him. Enjoy!

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06-26-2011, 01:26 PM
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Simmonds is a solid, gritty, two way forward. He learned a lot from playing with Handzus the past couple years, and as a result, he's very good on the penalty kill.
Enjoy!
Sorry, but huh?

In 80 games this season, Simmonds had 6 minutes and 40 seconds of PK time total. And I'm sure all of that was because of a few seconds of PK time left when his line was put out. The season before he had 37 seconds of PK time and that was barely ahead of Smyth. Modin and Halpern had more time on the PK once they were acquired.

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When Simmonds was at his best, the Kings were as energetic a team as anyone in the NHL. He gives that kind of energy to his team when he is on his game. He can pursue pucks like an absolute beast and is very hard to knock off the puck. With the right linemates he can do a great job helping pin defensive teams in their own zone with his strong cycling & board play abilities. He stands up for his teammates with no hesitation. This is a well-liked player that I predict Philly fans will love.

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Good on the forecheck and he will punish opposition defensmen that are going back to retrieve the puck. Effort is always there.

I think he needs to improve his shot quite a bit if he is going to get to the next level as a goal producer.

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So like a less-skilled version of Scottie Upshall?

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I think you guys will love Simmer in Philly. It's hard to let him go, but I think it was a good trade. The best part about him is that he pisses off the other team and their fans quite a bit. He likes to chirp a lot and will stand up for anybody on the team. While he can be streaky, he's scary good when he's on his game.

For Kings fans, remember that sign at the last Devils game that read "Our #17 is better." Good time.

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Sorry, but huh?

In 80 games this season, Simmonds had 6 minutes and 40 seconds of PK time total. And I'm sure all of that was because of a few seconds of PK time left when his line was put out. The season before he had 37 seconds of PK time and that was barely ahead of Smyth. Modin and Halpern had more time on the PK once they were acquired.
Huh, I thought I saw him kill pks more often. Strange how I'm remembering differently. Didn't he used to kill penalties with Handzus?

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Huh, I thought I saw him kill pks more often. Strange how I'm remembering differently. Didn't he used to kill penalties with Handzus?
Nope, I'm not sure who you are thinking of, but Simmonds was never a regular PK player for the Kings.

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He sucks, trade him back.

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Nope, I'm not sure who you are thinking of, but Simmonds was never a regular PK player for the Kings.
Between this and mixing up Lowe and Tambellini, I think I better check my skates before I tie them to make sure they're on the correct foot.

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He is a bigger party animal than Richards!

Some think he has 2nd line potential, but his hockey sense and puck handling leave a lot to be desired. He goes off sides way too much and has a hard time receiving passes. Of course, he's only 22 and already has 3 NHL seasons in him. Still developing.

You will love his effort and he has an effective wrist shot. He will stand up for his teammates and drop the gloves. He will be a fan favorite for years to come.

I see him as a 15/40 kind of player, but he could become a 20/50 2nd liner. He may have a couple of 25+ goal seasons in him.

He did not kill penaties for the Kings. He was very ineffective on the PP when he was given a chance, but the Kings PP was horrible overall.
This is a very fair evaluation. He also spends more time than any player I have ever seen getting knocked onto his butt. He is down on the ice a lot. He also does not have very good vision on the ice. Career third liner who took a step backwards last year with his effort on the ice, but had a decent playoff.

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