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06-25-2011, 09:21 PM
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Bieksa re-signing imminent

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Gillis said UFA plans in place. Expect Bieksa deal this week, serious shot at Ehrhoff.
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06-25-2011, 09:27 PM
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We need to get this hurdle done!

Will only breath a sigh of relief once its signed, sealed and delivered.

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Great news!

But what about Salo?

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Great news!

But what about Salo?
Both Gillis and Salo have said that they'd love to have him back/to be back and Salo understands he'd have to take a significant pay cut for things to work.

The general thinking is that he should be getting a 1yr/$1.5m deal if Bieksa and Ehrhoff are both re-signed for a combined $8.5 or so.

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Both Gillis and Salo have said that they'd love to have him back/to be back and Salo understands he'd have to take a significant pay cut for things to work.

The general thinking is that he should be getting a 1yr/$1.5m deal if Bieksa and Ehrhoff are both re-signed for a combined $8.5 or so.
I see him signing for more like 2M per. 1.5 is severe underpayment IMO.

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06-25-2011, 10:24 PM
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I see him signing for more like 2M per. 1.5 is severe underpayment IMO.
Actually I could see 1.5 too or a handshake agreement based on what Canucks have left after filling line-up

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Gillis wants to get all the internal deals wrapped up before July 1st, then focus on adding that elusive winger.

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Its funny how 99% wanted Bieksa gone before the season (including me) and now we all hope we keep him

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Its funny how 99% wanted Bieksa gone before the season (including me) and now we all hope we keep him
The fact that Hamhuis-Bieksa was a great pairing helps. I don't know if we would feel comfortable if these two didn't have such good chemistry together as a shutdown pair. If you surround Bieksa with the right defenseman (Hamhuis or Mitchell type) he become a very reliable top 4 two way defenseman. If you play him with a guy like Ehrhoff or Alberts Or O'Brien then he is going to look out of place.

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The fact that Hamhuis-Bieksa was a great pairing helps. I don't know if we would feel comfortable if these two didn't have such good chemistry together as a shutdown pair. If you surround Bieksa with the right defenseman (Hamhuis or Mitchell type) he become a very reliable top 4 two way defenseman. If you play him with a guy like Ehrhoff or Alberts Or O'Brien then he is going to look out of place.
I kind of disagree when people say this remember when Hamhuis went down the first time Bieksa was playing 25-28 minutes a game and he was rock solid

The finals he looked off because of the injury he was playing with

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The fact that Hamhuis-Bieksa was a great pairing helps. I don't know if we would feel comfortable if these two didn't have such good chemistry together as a shutdown pair. If you surround Bieksa with the right defenseman (Hamhuis or Mitchell type) he become a very reliable top 4 two way defenseman. If you play him with a guy like Ehrhoff or Alberts Or O'Brien then he is going to look out of place.
As a Sharks fan, I thought Hambuis proved that he is a premier defensive d-man in this league during the playoffs. However, I think he would struggle mightily against the Getzlafs, Thorntons, Perrys, and other elite players with size, skill and some grit. Having a mean, physical, and huge d-man like Bieska on his side gives them the perfect compliment, and in turn, the second or third best defensive pairing (defensively that is) in the west, behind Suter-Weber and Seabrook-Keith. Bieska is also the clear offensive threat on that pairing, and an excellent fit as a point weapon when the Canucks forwards are on the ice. Similarly, Bieska is a player who has some major holes to his game, but Hambuis covers most of them.

Also, got to love a guy who loves his team.

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As a Sharks fan, I thought Hambuis proved that he is a premier defensive d-man in this league during the playoffs. However, I think he would struggle mightily against the Getzlafs, Thorntons, Perrys, and other elite players with size, skill and some grit. Having a mean, physical, and huge d-man like Bieska on his side gives them the perfect compliment, and in turn, the second or third best defensive pairing (defensively that is) in the west, behind Suter-Weber and Seabrook-Keith. Bieska is also the clear offensive threat on that pairing, and an excellent fit as a point weapon when the Canucks forwards are on the ice. Similarly, Bieska is a player who has some major holes to his game, but Hambuis covers most of them.

Also, got to love a guy who loves his team.

Great news!

off topic if Salo is playing next year in the nhl the feeling I get is he won't want to play anywhere else.

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As a Sharks fan, I thought Hambuis proved that he is a premier defensive d-man in this league during the playoffs. However, I think he would struggle mightily against the Getzlafs, Thorntons, Perrys, and other elite players with size, skill and some grit. Having a mean, physical, and huge d-man like Bieska on his side gives them the perfect compliment, and in turn, the second or third best defensive pairing (defensively that is) in the west, behind Suter-Weber and Seabrook-Keith. Bieska is also the clear offensive threat on that pairing, and an excellent fit as a point weapon when the Canucks forwards are on the ice. Similarly, Bieska is a player who has some major holes to his game, but Hambuis covers most of them.

Also, got to love a guy who loves his team.
Bieksa isn't a big D-man, but he tends to play bigger than his size most of the time. He can be very physhical as well, but makes some bone-head mistakes at times.
He's also a great puck mover as well.

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Both Gillis and Salo have said that they'd love to have him back/to be back and Salo understands he'd have to take a significant pay cut for things to work.

The general thinking is that he should be getting a 1yr/$1.5m deal if Bieksa and Ehrhoff are both re-signed for a combined $8.5 or so.
I think it will br more than 8.5, closer to 10 and probably over that and Salo will get more than 2.5m

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Bieksa isn't a big D-man, but he tends to play bigger than his size most of the time. He can be very physhical as well, but makes some bone-head mistakes at times.
He's also a great puck mover as well.
Just wikied him, would have guessed for sure he was 6'2"-6'3". Definitely plays bigger than he is, but he fills the need nonetheless.

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You better hope Hamhuis stays healthy.

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I think it will br more than 8.5, closer to 10 and probably over that and Salo will get more than 2.5m
So you're saying that both Bieksa & Ehrhoff will be getting over $5m each?

Salo is 36, if he wants to keep playing NHL hockey he'll take what we give him. I highly doubt he'd want to move to another team at his age.

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Its funny how 99% wanted Bieksa gone before the season (including me) and now we all hope we keep him
Funny how he can change the quality of his play from 2 seasons ago to last season. But, he and Hammer showed some serious shutdown abilities throughout the season. They might be one of the top shutdown pairings in the league. I'll take that any day.

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As a Sharks fan, I thought Hambuis proved that he is a premier defensive d-man in this league during the playoffs. However, I think he would struggle mightily against the Getzlafs, Thorntons,
Weird. I had heard he thrived against these players in the past.

That said, I do agree that Bieksa and Hamhuis both make each other much better together than apart. Sort of like Burrows & Sedins.

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You better hope Hamhuis stays healthy.
He's been durable his entire career up till this year. He will be fine.

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He's been durable his entire career up till this year. He will be fine.
If he plays as much as he did this year for the rest of contract and his play doesn't decline, I'd still love that from a durability standpoint. Vancouver just has the WORST luck on the back end when it comes to injuries.

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So you're saying that both Bieksa & Ehrhoff will be getting over $5m each?

Salo is 36, if he wants to keep playing NHL hockey he'll take what we give him. I highly doubt he'd want to move to another team at his age.
Salo is only 36, lots of players move teams at that age. He made 3.5m last year, he won't go to 1.5m for sure, 2.5m maybe. Bieksa made 3.7m and Ehrhoff made 3.1m last year so there gonna make more. On the UFA market both will probably get close to 5.5m . So maybe a little less to stay in Vancouver.

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Salo is only 36, lots of players move teams at that age. He made 3.5m last year, he won't go to 1.5m for sure, 2.5m maybe. Bieksa made 3.7m and Ehrhoff made 3.1m last year so there gonna make more. On the UFA market both will probably get close to 5.5m . So maybe a little less to stay in Vancouver.
Lol someone's gonna be in for a shock when contracts come out

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