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06-25-2011, 10:21 PM
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Why aren't we getting any draft love?

Long time lurker, but I don't often post. This is my first thread so Mods if you feel that this thread should be elsewhere feel free to move it. I'm biased as a Sens fan, but for the life of me what does Ottawa have to do to get any recognition for what I feel was a really strong draft? I think we had one of the strongest drafts in the league this year but aren't getting any recognition for it outside of HF Boards.

The Hockey News makes a passing reference to Plymouth producing two first rounders, but nothing on the Sens with their three first rounders or how they moved up to get Puempel. They talk about Chicago who had an okay draft in my opinion, but I think the Sens draft was better. The Filatov deal gets nada yet they pump the Blackhawks tires for the Brouwer deal. Not saying the Brouwer deal wasn't decent for the Hawks, but come on.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...nd-losers.html

The only Sens reference on Yahoos Puck Daddy blog is about how Lil' Murray screwed up his thanking of the "City of Minnesota".

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/...urn=nhl-wp8046

Hell our own media bashes us...

http://www.ottawasun.com/2011/06/25/...de-than-fisher

What gives? I'm not saying that the Sens draft was far and away the best in the league but I think at least a little credit is due...

I didn't buy into the whole "the media hates Ottawa" thing, but I'm starting to have my doubts. If people come across a positive take on Ottawa's draft in the media feel free to post it. Some counter balance would be great.

End rant. Again, it's my first thread so go easy on me...


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06-25-2011, 10:27 PM
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Here is some love:

http://eye-on-hockey.blogs.cbssports...fb_na_txt_0001

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Ottawa Senators: My favorite team in this draft. They had a ton of draft picks entering the weekend and they made the most of them, spending two second-rounders to move into the first round for a third pick. Their No. 1 selection of Mika Zibanejad should be a good one, he's got a lot of power and grit. They got a lot of potential scoring with the other first-round picks in Stefan Noesen and Matt Puempel. They topped everything off by getting a talented but still unproven Nikita Filatov from Columbus for just a third-round pick. Grade: A+

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06-25-2011, 10:27 PM
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it's true, but we're going to have to start winning for a while and winning convincingly before we get any decent respect. Ottawa isn't exactly the center of the hockey universe, so the team really has to work for the attention.
As far as our own media goes, there's no good answer. They are just a bunch of degenerates.

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06-25-2011, 10:28 PM
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Brophy had some Sens love after round 1:http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2011/...timism_ottawa/

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06-25-2011, 10:35 PM
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Agree about the Hockey News, that was surprising, but TSN and Sportsnet have mentioned that Ottawa had a strong draft..

The article by Brennan is just more of the stuff he churns out , he has nothing informative to pass on and he is too lazy to do research so he tries to get people riled up about something(in this case drafting a Swede)

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06-25-2011, 10:38 PM
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Plenty of HF love for whatever that counts for.

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06-25-2011, 10:39 PM
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Thanks for the links. Nice to see some positive write-ups. This is the most excited I've been as a Sens fan since the cup run. Really interested to see how Filatov turns out. Love the trade up for Puempel.

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06-25-2011, 10:39 PM
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ESPN and Joyce giving the Sens little love.

Ottawa Senators: C

The Senators had a lot of picks to work with and did well with their first to take center Mika Zibanejad, who might be a more skilled hard-rock center than Mike Fisher. I like Matt Puempel as a pure scorer at No. 24, but Stefan Noesen, a Plymouth winger at No. 21 leaves me scratching my head. Noesen's a competitor but not a skater -- I suspect he might have still been on the board 20 picks later. Shane Prince of the Ottawa 67's will have to be a top-six forward or a minor-leaguer, no middle ground.

Sonier's Prime Picks: Zibanejad is one of the top three players most ready to play in the NHL next season and he brings size, skill and work ethic to the table. He will be hard to play against and that describes Noesen too, who has lots of grease to his two-way game.

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06-25-2011, 10:41 PM
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I don't give any ****s about what the media thinks about the draft. The scouting department, Dorion and Murray are all very happy with the way it came out, so I am too.

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06-25-2011, 10:50 PM
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I suspect he might have still been on the board 20 picks later.
Geez how can people be so dumb?
If they picked him that early it means they were really high specifically on him (and not because of some stupid scouting ratings) and they knew there was other team that was after him. That other team probably was Anaheim - right after Ottawa picked Noesen ANA traded their pick down. Great move by BM on this one getting the guy they really wanted.

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06-25-2011, 10:52 PM
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Don't really care.

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Agree about the Hockey News, that was surprising, but TSN and Sportsnet have mentioned that Ottawa had a strong draft..

The article by Brennan is just more of the stuff he churns out , he has nothing informative to pass on and he is too lazy to do research so he tries to get people riled up about something(in this case drafting a Swede)
Brennan is a Bruins fan, his boss is a Leafs fan, now did you really expect anything more from the Sun?

The Sun has never been a shining example of good journalism, and unforunately it is getting worse.

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ESPN and Joyce giving the Sens little love.

Ottawa Senators: C

The Senators had a lot of picks to work with and did well with their first to take center Mika Zibanejad, who might be a more skilled hard-rock center than Mike Fisher. I like Matt Puempel as a pure scorer at No. 24, but Stefan Noesen, a Plymouth winger at No. 21 leaves me scratching my head. Noesen's a competitor but not a skater -- I suspect he might have still been on the board 20 picks later. Shane Prince of the Ottawa 67's will have to be a top-six forward or a minor-leaguer, no middle ground.

Sonier's Prime Picks: Zibanejad is one of the top three players most ready to play in the NHL next season and he brings size, skill and work ethic to the table. He will be hard to play against and that describes Noesen too, who has lots of grease to his two-way game.
murray said he saw a resemblance of corey perry, i trust him as he drafted perry........

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06-25-2011, 11:41 PM
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It's not just the draft. Ottawa prospects and anything Ottawa related are completely underrated.

If Karlsson or Lehner were on the Leafs, they would have been on the cover on NHL 12 already, holding hands while Burke is holding the cup on the back-ground that Anahiem won and it would have stated. "Burke builds Cups." Instead of NHL 12.

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06-26-2011, 12:03 AM
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More than just a resemblance:

http://www.silversevensens.com/2011/...st-round-picks

SENATORS DRAFT PICK #21

Stefan Noesen
Draft Year: 2011

Draft Year Stats:
Games: 68
Goals: 34
Assists: 43
Points: 77
PIM: 80
Points Per Game: 1.13 PPG
Points Per Game Progression (from previous year): +0.89 PPG

Comparable NHL player during draft year:
Corey Perry
Draft Year: 2003

Draft Year Stats:
Games: 67
Goals: 25
Assists: 53
Points: 78
PIM: 145
Points Per Game: 1.16 PPG
Points Per Game Progression (from previous year): +0.18 PPG

SENATORS DRAFT PICK #24

Matt Puempel
Draft Year: 2011

Draft Year Stat:
Games: 55
Goals: 34
Assists: 35
Points: 69
PIM: 49
Points Per Game: 1.25
Points Per Game Progression (from previous year): +0.17 PPG


Comparable NHL player during draft year:
Rick Nash
Draft Year: 2002

Draft Year Stats:
Games: 54
Goals: 32
Assists: 40
Points: 72
PIM: 88
Points Per Game: 1.33 PPG
Points Per Game Progression (from previous year): +0.37 PPG

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06-26-2011, 01:28 AM
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Do you really wanna get 'love' from the print media for your opwn draft? NO

Besides, Sens draft is getting plenty of 'love' from HF posters over at the draft board.

And I remember McGwire and Mckenzie giving them love on how they loaded up on offense and jam.

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Ottawa will always be a favorite target in this country as long as the federal government is in the city. Slamming the Sens is just another way to jam the knife in a lil deeper.

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I've noticed Leaf fans have been more than ready to congratulate us.

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06-26-2011, 03:14 AM
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League wide no one gives a **** about Ottawa or Ottawa fans. It sucks but also it can be a blessing in disguise.I trust Murray and his team when it comes to drafting and can't wait for us to be a small market powerhouse again. That's all drunk and typing on phone do sorry for any errors

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06-26-2011, 04:34 AM
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I love Brennan's title:
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Zibanejad better have more offensive upside than Fisher
Is that a threat? Or what? What are you going to do?

Nice news article.

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06-26-2011, 04:44 AM
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I love Brennan's title:


Is that a threat? Or what? What are you going to do?

Nice news article.
He'll write another article. That's bad enough.


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06-26-2011, 10:46 AM
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SENATORS DRAFT PICK #21

Stefan Noesen
Draft Year: 2011

Draft Year Stats:
Games: 68
Goals: 34
Assists: 43
Points: 77
PIM: 80
Points Per Game: 1.13 PPG
Points Per Game Progression (from previous year): +0.89 PPG

Comparable NHL player during draft year:
Corey Perry
Draft Year: 2003

Draft Year Stats:
Games: 67
Goals: 25
Assists: 53
Points: 78
PIM: 145
Points Per Game: 1.16 PPG
Points Per Game Progression (from previous year): +0.18 PPG
I know what wikipedia says... but I seem to remember Corey Perry being near the top of the OHL in his draft year... he scored 113 points and was 2nd behind... Corey Locke for the league lead

I wanted the Sens to draft him based on that but he ended up being taken by the Ducks one spot before us, so we drafted Eaves instead


Seems like a rather significant difference in offensive instincts if you ask me...

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06-26-2011, 11:50 AM
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I know what wikipedia says... but I seem to remember Corey Perry being near the top of the OHL in his draft year... he scored 113 points and was 2nd behind... Corey Locke for the league lead

I wanted the Sens to draft him based on that but he ended up being taken by the Ducks one spot before us, so we drafted Eaves instead


Seems like a rather significant difference in offensive instincts if you ask me...
Perry put up 113 the year after he was drafted.

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06-26-2011, 11:53 AM
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We've been getting tons of love on HFBoards, though.

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06-26-2011, 07:02 PM
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who cares. you'll never know how a draft went until down the road. praise now makes no different.

what we need is the ottawa sun to piss all over it. that normally ends well for us.

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