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03-01-2010, 10:35 AM
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1995-born age group

Pohjola camp for this age group will be held this week, so perhaps it's a good time to start this thread.

The regular season has ended in C-SM and here are the stats of top 1995-born players:

Forwards with at least 10 points in C-SM:
F TANUS Jonatan Tappara 25gp 27g+27a=54p
F BARKOV Sasha Tappara 25gp 20g+25a=45p
F IKONEN Juuso Blues 21gp 15g+18a=33p
F LEHKONEN Artturi TPS 14gp 15g+14a=29p
F MUSTONEN Aleksi Jokerit 24gp 8g+21a=29p
F ANTONEN Joose Ilves 20gp 8g+20a=28p
F ANTTILA Sami Kärpät 15gp 13g+12a=25p
F FRIBERG Jere Lukko 25gp 10g+15a=25p
F LEHTIMÄKI Niklas Ässät 22gp 10g+14a=24p
F SIIKI Oskari TPS 27gp 10g+9a=19p
F WESTERMARCK Felix Blues 25gp 5g+14a=19p
F KINNUNEN Saku KalPa 25gp 10g+8a=18p
F PULLI Matias TPS 16gp 8g+10a=18p
F KOIVISTOINEN Eetu Blues 20gp 9g+7a=16p
F PUHAKKA Janne Blues 25gp 6g+10a=16p
F OJANTAKANEN Kasperi Jokerit 19gp 7g+8a=15p
F KIVELÄ Niko Jokerit 18gp 10g+4a=14p
F LAHTINEN Timi Jokerit 19gp 5g+9a=14p
F PEKKALA Sami Kärpät 14gp 9g+3a=12p
F SEPPÄNEN Arttu HPK 12gp 4g+6a=10p

Defensemen with at least 5 points in C-SM:
D LINTUNIEMI Alex HIFK 24gp 3g+14a=17p
D TORNBERG Reko Kärpät 24gp 5g+11a=16p
D KOPONEN Janne KalPa 24gp 3g+10a=13p
D AURIA Miska HIFK 13gp 3g+6a=9p
D ILVONEN Mika Blues 25gp 0g+9a=9p
D LEVO Mikke Ilves 19gp 4g+3a=7p
D TÖRRÖ Joni Ilves 24gp 2g+4a=6p
D ERONEN Elmeri TPS 27gp 2g+3a=5p
D KURONEN Jimi Jokerit 18gp 0g+5a=5p

Goalies with at least 10 played games in C-SM:
GK HUSSO Ville HIFK 16gpi 2.49gaa 92.74-S%
GK LANKINEN Kevin 18gpi 3.38gaa 91.67-S%
GK SAROS Juuse HPK 12gpi 4.10gaa 90.72-S%
GK NIKU Juho JYP 16gpi 3.72gaa 90.29-S%

One notable player from C-1-DIV:
D MALKAMÄKI Topi Hermes 15gp 11g+11a=22p (one game left in the schedule)

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One might thing that HIFK goalie Ville Husso, Tappara forward Jonatan Tanus and TPS forward Artturi Lehkonen are the top candidates for MVP trophy, but there’s always room for surprises.

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who has the higest potential for each group?

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who has the higest potential for each group?
That's not an easy question. Concerning this age group, someone attending the camp might be able to give some sort of an answer to that question at the end of the week.

From the players that I’ve seen personally Ville Husso and Kevin Lankinen seemed to have the required quickness and athletic talent to become good goalies someday. You don’t have to watch them for long to understand that. Maybe Husso has more potential because he's taller, but otherwise I don't see much difference between them.

One player whose stats aren’t that brilliant, but has a high potential is forward Eetu Koivistoinen. He has skill, size and skating ability. If he keeps working hard and gets some consistency to his game, he might become someone that we talk about in few years.

Naturally there are plenty of promising players in this age group that I haven't seen or don’t even play in C-SM yet, so this is the best that I can do right now. It will get a bit easier to evaluate these players next season, once some of them start playing regularly in Jr.B where the competition is far greater.

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I agree you with Eeetu Koivistoinen, we will hear from he in future. He has been injured few times in the near future and that is the reason why hes stats aren`t so briliant at the moment.
We can not forget Juuso Ikonen. He is very talent and we will hear from he also.
There is one goalie I have to remind you Christoffer Hernberg, he is talent and has good size also.

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We can not forget Juuso Ikonen. He is very talent and we will hear from he also.
Yep, Juuso Ikonen is a talented centre forward, no doubt about it. One of the top Finnish forwards in this age group at the moment. Good mobility and offensive imagination. Hopefully he will grow some height in the future. His name is no longer on the Pohjola camp roster, so is he injured?

Are there any players outside Espoo that you think are good?

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Is Sasha Barkov Alexandrs son? He seem to have nice stats. Barely 2013 draftee. Alexander was a big player like 6'3 or so. Lets hope Jr. grows too How is hes skating? Seems to be weak age group for defense once again.

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Is Sasha Barkov Alexandrs son?
Yes, he's Aleksander Jr.

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How is hes skating?
Maybe not as good as Juuso Ikonen's or Aleksi Mustonen's, but still fine. The only player from these top scorers that I've seen with clear problems with skating is Lukko's Jere Friberg.

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Seems to be weak age group for defense once again.
Maybe you know better, but I wouldn't make that conclusion yet. One thing is for certain, not much is required from the defensive crop to be better than the 92's or 93's.

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Are there any players outside Espoo that you think are good?[/QUOTE]

Lawman Jeffrey, very effective and has good size also.
Julius Valtonen, good size and skating.
Timi Lahtinen, good size and hands.
Jani Elgbacka, good size , hand and pass.
Anton Heikkilä, effective and have good skating and pass.

If you have good size then you have big advantage, otherwise you have to be like Juuso Ikonen.

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Pohjola camp awards

Jonatan Tanus, Tappara (Most valuable player)
Alex Lintuniemi, HIFK (Star player)
Jani Elgbacka, Jokerit (Skilled player)
Christoffer Hernberg, EJK (Goalie with the best technique)

All Stars:
GK - Ville Husso, HIFK
D - Reko Tornberg, Kärpät
D - Mika Ilvonen, Blues
F - Aleksi Mustonen, Jokerit
F - Jonatan Tanus, Tappara
F - Niklas Lehtimäki, Ässät

Top20 in scoring:
Eetu Koivistoinen, Blues 8+2=10p
Joose Antonen, Ilves 6+4=10p
Aleksander Barkov, Tappara 5+4=9p
Niklas Lehtimäki, Ässät 6+2=8p
Otto Rauhala, Tappara 2+6=8p
Felix Westermarck, Blues 3+4=7p
Jonatan Tanus, Tappara 3+4=7p
Oskari Siiki, TPS 4+2=6p
Topias Olli, KalPa 2+4=6p
Henrik Appel, Kärpät 2+4=6p
Panu Mieho, Jokerit 2+4=6p
Niko Hirvonen, Jokipojat 2+4=6p
Jere Lifländer, Ketterä 5+0=5p
Jere Friberg, Lukko 4+1=5p
Janne Puhakka, Blues 3+2=5p
Sami Pekkala, Kärpät 3+2=5p
Artturi Lehkonen, TPS 3+2=5p
Aleksi Ainali, NuPs 3+2=5p
Juho Virtanen, TPS 2+3=5p
Aleksi Mustonen, Jokerit 2+3=5p


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National team candidates

P.NameTeamcmkgDOBL/R
GK Ville Husso HIFK 184 80 06-FEB-95 L
GK Christoffer Hernberg EJK 180 75 21-MAR-95 L
GK Kevin Lankinen K-Vantaa 177 60 28-APR-95 L
GK Santeri Lipiäinen SaiPa 171 67 02-DEC-95 R
D Elmeri Eronen TPS 168 62 27-JAN-95 R
D Julius Honka JYP 159 53 03-DEC-95 R
D Tuomas Voipio Ässät 172 52 04-JUL-95 L
D Pekka Sipari SaiPa 180 74 16-APR-95 R
D Mika Ilvonen Blues 168 61 27-FEB-95 L
D Roope Rohamo HPK 177 65 20-SEP-95 R
D Ville Keskinen JoKP 183 74 19-MAY-95 R
D Mikke Levo Ilves 171 65 28-MAR-95 L
D Reko Tornberg Kärpät 180 74 04-FEB-95 R
D Jimi Kuronen Jokerit 176 76 17-MAY-95 L
D Jere Marjamäki Tappara 176 67 27-APR-95 L
D Janne Koponen KalPa 180 75 07-JUN-95 L
D Joonas Lyytinen KalPa 172 54 04-APR-95 L
D Alex Lintuniemi HIFK 180 75 23-SEP-95 L
D Joni Törrö Ilves 179 74 16-JUN-95 L
D Anton Fonsen Ässät 173 59 21-MAR-95 L
F Aleksi Ainali NuPS 177 77 12-APR-95 L
F Niklas Lehtimäki Ässät 178 73 16-JUN-95 L
F Robin Kokkonen Flemingsborg 175 64 03-FEB-95 L
F Eetu Koivistoinen Blues 187 81 13-JUL-95 L
F Felix Westermarck Blues 180 74 03-JAN-95 L
F Oskari Siiki TPS 172 61 05-MAY-95 L
F Jonatan Tanus Tappara 170 70 04-JUN-95 L
F Toni Suuronen Titaanit 176 70 30-JUN-95 L
F Aleksander Barkov Tappara 180 73 02-SEP-95 L
F Aleksi Mustonen Jokerit 170 63 28-MAR-95 L
F Artturi Lehkonen TPS 174 59 04-JUL-95 L
F Janne Puhakka Blues 171 70 24-FEB-95 L
F Joose Antonen Ilves 180 72 28-APR-95 R
F Kasperi Ojantakanen Jokerit 171 61 12-JAN-95 R
F Matias Pulli TPS 172 57 08-MAR-95 R
F Saku Kinnunen KalPa 172 68 03-JAN-95 L
F Timi Lahtinen Jokerit 186 78 06-JAN-95 L
F Niko Kivelä Jokerit 177 67 21-FEB-95 L
F Samuli Kanerva TPS 169 67 09-JAN-95 R
F Sami Pekkala Kärpät 165 60 12-SEP-95 L
F Niko Hirvonen JoKP 175 65 05-APR-95 L
F Topias Olli KalPa 169 63 03-OCT-95 L
F Mikael Vihriälä Tappara 172 72 02-MAR-95 L
F Henrik Appel Kärpät 170 58 26-JAN-95 L
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P.NameTeamcmkgDOBL/R
D Julius Honka JYP 159 53 03-DEC-95 R
F Eetu Koivistoinen Blues 187 81 13-JUL-95 L
F Timi Lahtinen Jokerit 186 78 06-JAN-95 L
Can someone tell me, how the hell can a DEFENDER the size of Honka play against forwards like Koivistoinen and Lahtinen?!? That's just ridiculous

As a Jokerit fan I'm naturally interested in our juniors, so can someone tell me something about Kuronen, Mustonen, Lahtinen, Ojantakainen and Kivelä? Also would like to hear about the 96-born(?) Jokerit twins. Finland's Sedins?

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Can someone tell me, how the hell can a DEFENDER the size of Honka play against forwards like Koivistoinen and Lahtinen?!? That's just ridiculous
Probably with the same attributes that any other small defender does. You should probably ask f.e. Sami Vatanen how he does it?

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Probably with the same attributes that any other small defender does. You should probably ask f.e. Sami Vatanen how he does it?
Well if you want to compare it to Vatanen(175/75):

Koivistoinen is about 18% taller than Honka, and Vatanen+18% is something like 206cm... Not a lot of those in finnish hockey.

And if you mean weight; Koivistoinen weighs almost 53%(!) more than Honka, and Vatanen+53% is about 115kg.

So... 206cm/115kg guys are quite rare even in Sm-liiga.

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Well if you want to compare it to Vatanen(175/75):

Koivistoinen is about 18% taller than Honka, and Vatanen+18% is something like 206cm... Not a lot of those in finnish hockey.

And if you mean weight; Koivistoinen weighs almost 53%(!) more than Honka, and Vatanen+53% is about 115kg.

So... 206cm/115kg guys are quite rare even in Sm-liiga.
Nice job on missing the point.
I can give you a hint: one of the attributes that small defenders need against big forwards is not a calculator.

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Nice job on missing the point.
I can give you a hint: one of the attributes that small defenders need against big forwards is not a calculator.
Nice job on missing my original point, which was that the size different is so huge that there's really no players, at least in Sm-liiga, to compare it to. You said Vatanen so I just informed you that Vatanen isn't even close to the size difference between Koivistoinen and Honka...

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Well if you want to compare it to Vatanen(175/75)
Worth mentioning:
Sami Vatanen four years ago at Pohjola camp: 161cm, 51kg
Julius Honka at this year's Pohjola camp: 159cm, 53kg

-> Honka has plenty of time to grow. You must also take into account the fact that Honka is born late in the year; December and was therefore one of the youngest players attending the camp.

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Worth mentioning:
Sami Vatanen four years ago at Pohjola camp: 161cm, 51kg
Julius Honka at this year's Pohjola camp: 159cm, 53kg

-> Honka has plenty of time to grow. You must also take into account the fact that Honka is born late in the year; December and was therefore one of the youngest players attending the camp.
Thanks I was trying to find those numbers.

Anyway jokerit67 you asked HOW... I answered how. If you lack size you have to make up for it in other ways. Skating, positioning, stickhandling, balance, grit etc. Those are the attributes that small defenders, like Honka, need in order to be successful.

Keep in mind that we're not talking about basketball. Size matters but it's not all that counts in ice hockey.

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Hey, guys!
I was just wondering, there will be this 95 World Selects Invitational played in Finland in April. Aong others there also is a "Finland Selects" team and I was just wondering whether it is an official selection from the Finnish federation or some else kind of a team? I have to admit, I don´t even have any idea what kind of a team the "Slovak Stars" team that is also participating is.

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I have until now looking at this age group players and there seems to be lot of intresting players based on statistics. Juuso Ikonen did nine goals on seven games in world selects invitational tournament and his stats in C-juniors was great there too. Other interesting prospect is Eetu Koivistoinen because of his size. Really unsual finn. Tormentor already has told something about these guys so I dont need information about them. Third interesting prospect is Jonatan Tanus and here wasn't nothing information about him so if someone could tell me something that would be great! MVP of the Pohjola camp, great stats in C-juniors and captain of the Tappara. Sounds good.

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Here's the U16 group chosen for a camp in August:

Goalies:
Ville Husso, HIFK
Kevin Lankinen, Jokerit
Juuse Saros, HPK
Simeon Valonen, KalPa

Defencemen:
Elmeri Eronen, TPS
Mika Ilvonen, Blues
Ville Keskinen, Kärpät
Jimi Kuronen, HIFK
Mikke Levo, Ilves
Roope Rohamo, HPK
Reko Tornberg, Kärpät
Joni Törrö, Ilves

Forwards:
Sami Anttila, Kärpät
Joose Antonen, Ilves
Aleksander Barkov, Tappara
Juuso Ikonen, Blues
Saku Kinnunen, KalPa
Niklas Lehtimäki, Ässät
Aleksi Mustonen, Jokerit
Kasperi Ojantakanen, Jokerit
Janne Puhakka, Blues
Matias Pulli, TPS
Jonatan Tanus, Tappara
Artturi Lehkonen, TPS

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Bump.

Aleksi Mustonen is making his debut with Jokerit U20-team at the moment. Jonatan Tanus playing against him with Tappara. It's great to see these young guys being noticed and given an opportunity to show their talent against more skilled and more experienced opponents, even in Finland

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Finnish 95

I see a long list of well known names.
Does anyone know how many 95 with finnish passport play now abroad and are not included, considered or known ?





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Here's the U16 group chosen for a camp in August:

Goalies:
Ville Husso, HIFK
Kevin Lankinen, Jokerit
Juuse Saros, HPK
Simeon Valonen, KalPa

Defencemen:
Elmeri Eronen, TPS
Mika Ilvonen, Blues
Ville Keskinen, Kärpät
Jimi Kuronen, HIFK
Mikke Levo, Ilves
Roope Rohamo, HPK
Reko Tornberg, Kärpät
Joni Törrö, Ilves



Forwards:
Sami Anttila, Kärpät
Joose Antonen, Ilves
Aleksander Barkov, Tappara
Juuso Ikonen, Blues
Saku Kinnunen, KalPa
Niklas Lehtimäki, Ässät
Aleksi Mustonen, Jokerit
Kasperi Ojantakanen, Jokerit
Janne Puhakka, Blues
Matias Pulli, TPS
Jonatan Tanus, Tappara
Artturi Lehkonen, TPS

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This age group is very interesting. There is many guys playing in jr. a already and putting good numbers. is there any first round talent for 2013 draft? i know it is too early too tell but there isn't much hype around these guys. Juuso Ikonen seems to be quite skilled. He is very small tho. Jonathan tanus seems to be very skilled aswell and has room to grow. There is big and skilled koivistoinen who has big size but how is his skating? So there's sasha barkov who is really mysterious. Has almost PPG in jr. A as 15 years of age. Doesen't fit in WHC u-17 team? If someone knows better i'd like to hear their strengths and potential. And how you guys would rank them. At this point this age group could be best in many years.

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This age group is very interesting. There is many guys playing in jr. a already and putting good numbers. is there any first round talent for 2013 draft?
The Finnish 2013 NHL Draft prospects that I like the most - at the moment - are Rasmus Ristolainen, Ville Husso and Aleksandr (Sasha) Barkov. If they stay healthy and work hard, 1st round could be within a reach in 2013. Ristolainen is a mobile two-way defenseman, Husso is a highly athletic goalie and Barkov is an intelligent centre forward. Saku Salminen and Eetu Koivistoinen are also worth keeping an eye on, both of them have size and skill, but it’s too early to tell whether they’ll be drafted or not.

So far I’ve watched Finland’s first 3 games (Exhibition game against Ontario, and preliminary round games against USA and Quebec) from the WU-17 Hockey Challenge through Fasthockey.com. From the four 95-born Finns there - Jimi Kuronen, Juuso Ikonen, Jonatan Tanus and Artturi Lehkonen - Ikonen has been the most impressive. The other 3 have also played fairly well. Of the three forwards; Ikonen, Tanus and Lehkonen, Lehkonen is clearly the tallest one and could very well develop into a good player once he bulks up, his puck skills are good. Ikonen and Tanus have a lot of tenacity, but at the moment they are far too small to be considered NA prospects.


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I´m very interested to know which players might be the best at the moment in the 1995 -born age group after the best players like Aleksander Barkov, Ville Husso, Juuso Ikonen, Artturi Lehkonen etc. From what I have seen, Ilves defenseman Mikke Levo is a good player. He is an intelligent defenseman and has offensive skills, plus he has played international games for Finland. Also Jokerit forward Kasperi Ojantakanen is a good player. He has good skills with the puck and a good shot. I´m looking forward to see him playing more this season. TPS defenseman Matias Pulli has played well by looking at his points; however, I haven´t seen him playing yet. Also Jimi Kuronen from HIFK is a D who I would like to see this year. Aleksi Mustonen, a forward from Jokerit, is a player who has good potential.


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