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2011 Sharks Entry Draft recap, new prospect info & all appropriate discussion

To save people from having to go back through the draft GDT to hunt out information on each of the players the Sharks picked, I'm once again going to consolidate all the available information on them into the start of a new thread.


Of course the big news of the draft was the Burns trade, but beyond the fact that it cost San Jose their 1st, it has no bearing here.


Here are the newest members of the San Jose Sharks:



Pick Notes: San Jose traded their own 2nd rounder (59th) plus a 2012 3rd round pick to Florida for the 47th pick used to select Nieto.

Pre-Draft Rankings
CSB: 43 NAS
ISS: 56
TSN: 43
THN: 42
TSR: 43

(CSB = NHL Central Scouting, ISS = Int'l Scouting Service, TSN = Bob McKenzie's TSN.ca rankings, THN = The Hockey News Draft Preview, TSR = TheScoutingReport.org)

Last season stats
TeamGPGAPPIM
Boston Univ.3910132316

Player Notes
  • Was the 2nd leading scorer on BU among first time draft-eligible players (behind only Adam Clendening)
  • Prior to BU, Nieto was a member of the US National Training & Development Program (NTDP), including being a point-per-game player for the program's USHL team..
  • Is the first California-born draft pick in San Jose Sharks history.



Scouting Reports

The Hockey News (Excerpt)

Quote:
"He's small and he's fast," One scout said. "If that's what you're looking for, he's your guy."... Some compare him favorably to Minnesota prospect Jason Zucker... "He has good feet and a good skill level," another scout said. "His size is probably his only drawback. If he's six feet, he's probably going a lot higher."
Bob McKenzie's draft rankings (scouting reports courtesy McKeen's scout Grant McCagg)
Quote:
Scored four goals in the 2009 U-18 championships as a 16-year-old. Averaged a point-per game last season with the USNTDP-18 team. Had 23 points as a freshman at Boston University.

Strengths -
He's a really good complimentary player. Smart, made a big leap from USHL-level hockey to NCAA and didn't look out of place on a stacked team. Makes a lot of good little plays, goes to the net hard, decent skater.

Weaknesses - Lacks ideal size for a pro winger, will need 15 or 20 pounds to handle NHL rigors. Has bouts on inconsistency.

NHL Upside -
Two years ago he looked like a possible top-six winger, but stopped growing. Has the smarts to battle for third-line minutes after some more seasoning in college and the minor pros.
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=44974


TheScoutingReport final draft rankings
Quote:
Nieto was projected to be a first-round pick coming into the year, but had a pretty tough start to his NCAA career and was never quite able to recover the lost ground. He’s undersized, but makes up for it with great speed and the ability to change gears into “breakaway” speed. Handles the puck well and is a pretty opportunistic player who can create for himself with some silky smooth hands. Nieto will have to address some of the deficiencies in his game such as competing harder and showing that he’s willing to sacrifice his body in the corners to make things happen.
http://www.thescoutingreport.org/tsr...-skaters-2650/



Bruins 2011 draftwatch blog
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The California winger is small, but very talented and is coming on strong after a tough start (3 points in first 12 NCAA games with the Terriers), having scored two goals and 9 points in last eight games. Nieto's wheels are first-rate: he has a very quick burst and accelerates to top speed quickly. He's also shifty and elusive, able to burn opponents in a footrace or turn them inside-out with a dazzling array of weaves and tight turns on his edges. One of those players who immediately draws you in with his skating- fun to watch when he revs it up and takes it up ice. He has a very quick stick and can handle the puck effectively at top speed. A legitimate breakaway threat and game-changer. When on his game, he's backing defenders up and using an array of head and body fakes to create space for himself. Creative and sees the ice pretty well. His a lightning release and very soft touch/knack for finding soft spots in defenses with his passes. Competed hard around the puck, but needs to pick up the intensity away from the play. Nieto is only average-sized and like most players his age, needs to get stronger/add mass to his small frame in order to handle the rigors of pro hockey. Was inconsistent in his willingness to do the dirty work in the corners and probably needs continued adjusting to the level of competition in the HE.
http://bruins2011draftwatch.blogspot...rts-jamie.html


Nieto's own comments on his play, courtesy the Merc's "Working the Corners" blog
Quote:
Nieto said he best asset is his speed.

“And I think I’m at my best when I use it in all situations. I’m definitely an offensive player, but I’m reliable in my own end and I like to consider myself a good two-way player,” he said.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/...aly/#more-6328


More links
Hockeydb.com stats page
BU player profile






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Pick Notes: This pick was one of only two selections in the draft that originally belonged to San Jose and was not involved in any trades (round 6 #178 was the other)

Pre-Draft Rankings
CSB: 89 NAS
ISS: Unknown
TSN: N/A
THN: 80
TSR: 85


Last Season Stats

TeamGPGAPPIM
Sudbury665611124


Player Notes
  • Teammate of SJ prospect C Michael Sgarbossa
  • 5th among defenceman scoring on Sudbury (3rd among draft-age d-men)
  • Recorded 1 assist in 12 career playoff games with Sudbury
  • Was the 5th overall pick in the OHL Midget Priority Draft in 2009
  • Was once considered a potential NHL 1st round pick back in '09



Scouting Reports

TSR Final Rankings
Quote:
Sefton struggled to adapt to the OHL as a rookie and it took him awhile to get his feet under him this season as well, but he’s finally showing the type of player he can be. Sefton is a nasty defenseman to play against and someone that will make you pay on every shift either through physical play, or nasty Chris Pronger-esque slashes in front of the net. He’s still working on his skating and acceleration, but he’s not a bad technical skater. Offensive upside is minimal; although he does have a pretty hard shot but will need to work on getting it off more frequently.
http://www.thescoutingreport.org/tsr...skaters-76100/


TSR 2010 Feature on Sudbury Wolves prospects for the '11 draft
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This was a better showing from the 5th Overall Pick in 2009, as Sefton looked a lot more comfortable out on the ice. He was able to do a good job of throwing his weight around and play the physical and nasty style that he has become revered for. Offensively he was a lot more proactive and he was able to utilize his heavy shot a couple of times, although he still looks a little uncomfortable having the puck on his stick in that area of the ice. Skating is still an issue for Sefton as he lacks catch up speed and explosiveness which has been a primary cause for him getting exploited by opposing forwards. He still has a lot of work to do this year, and it’s pretty clear that he’s not going to be the first round pick many once thought he would be, but he’ll still hear his name called next June, it’s just a matter of where.
http://www.thescoutingreport.org/sud...rie-prospects/



Sefton's self-assessment, via Working The Corners blog
Quote:
“I’m a big physical guy,” said Sefton, who identified Dion Phaneuf and Chris Pronger as the players he tries to patten himself after. “They’re big guys that no one wants to go up against, someone you don’t want to meet up with on the ice.”
But that’s only part of his game.
“I like to move the puck — quick, good hard passes,” he said. “I’ve been working on speed to get into the game quicker.”
Overall, he sees his strength as “good defensive zone coverage, getting the puck out of my end and getting it to the forwards to do their job.”
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/...aly/#more-6328


HFBoards discussion on Sefton prior to the draft
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=899667

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Sudbury Wolves player page


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Pick Notes: Acquired pick from Winnipeg in exchange for their 4th round pick (#119). San Jose also gained a 7th rounder (#149) in the trade. Pick originally belonged to Carolina prior to the Jets.
Pre-Draft Rankings
CSB: 50 NAS
ISS: Unknown
TSN: N/A
THN: N/A
TSR: 95
(CSB = NHL Central Scouting, ISS = Int'l Scouting Service, TSN = Bob McKenzie's TSN.ca rankings, THN = The Hockey News Draft Preview, TSR = TheScoutingReport.org)

Last Season Stats

[table="head"]Team|GP|G|A|P|PIM
Indiana|51|8|21|29|45[/quote]


Player Notes
  • Committed to the University of Miami (Ohio)
  • Born in Ohio, but both parents are Canadian from Ontario
  • Indiana's leading scorer among draft-age players
  • Recorded 2 points in 5 playoff games in 10-11



Scouting Reports

TSR Final Rankings
Quote:
Kuraly appears to have benefited by being on an experienced, high scoring team with the Ice. He’s a big kid who figures to get even bigger and stronger. He contributes at both ends and shows the ability to get open and make plays with the puck. He also is strong in front of the net and battles for rebounds and deflections. Kuraly works hard to get from point A to point B but needs to lengthen his stride a little to be a more efficient skater.
http://www.thescoutingreport.org/tsr...skaters-76100/


Self-assessment from Working The Corners blog
Quote:
He describes himself as a “pretty solid two-way centerman.”
“I try to play strong in both ends of the ice and maybe matchup against the other team’s top guys and also add a little bit of offense as well,” he said. “That’s something I’m trying to work on.”
Playing for the Indiana Ice in the USHL, Kuraly said he had more of a defensive role last season and he hoped to fine-tune the offensive side of his game there next year.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/...aly/#more-6328


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Indiana Ice player page

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Pick Notes: Pick was acquired from the New York Rangers in exchange for Jody Shelley in 2010.
Pre-Draft Rankings
CSB: Unranked (overage)
ISS: Unranked (overage)
TSN: Unranked (overage)
THN: Unranked (overage)
TSR: Unranked (overage)
(CSB = NHL Central Scouting, ISS = Int'l Scouting Service, TSN = Bob McKenzie's TSN.ca rankings, THN = The Hockey News Draft Preview, TSR = TheScoutingReport.org)

Last Season Stats

TeamGPGAPPIM
Yaroslavl (KHL)161124
Yaroslavl (MHL)141010208

(MHL is the KHL's minor league/youth league feeder. Similar to an amalgam of the CHL and AHL in North America terms)


Player Notes
  • Has Russian citizenship and is part of team Russia in IIHF-sanctioned tournaments despite Ukranian origin
  • Gold-medal winner with Russia at the 2011 World Junior Championships
  • Overage player not selected in the 2009 or 2010 drafts



Scouting Reports

Russian Prospects.com writeup (I believe for 2010)

Quote:
Talent Analysis: A playmaking center with a knack on passing game...solid skating, has to work on speed...good stability...can take hits and physical play thanks to his size...excellent vision and reading of the play...can pass the puck to any player on the rink...tries hard on defense...doesn't shy away from physical play...has to work on his shot, both slap and wrist...a reliable center who can get with ease on the scoresheet...
Back In Russia: A native of Kiev, Ukrain, Sobchenko moved to Russia at 10 and got graduated at the productive Lokomotiv hockey school. He had an excellent couple of seasons with Lokomotiv's junior farm team and he earned a lineup spot in 2009-10 Lokomotiv KHL team. Has scored his first KHL goal on 2009 October 1st against Barys Astana.
NHL Outlook: Danil Sobchenko is a very talented player who hasn't earned much consideration because of his lack of play with the national team, due to a conflict with U18 National team coach Vladimir Plyuschev. Considering that Plyuschev has now moved up to the U20 squad, unfortunately it looks that Sobchenko won't get much attention this season too, but surely his KHL performances are worth of attention.
http://www.russianprospects.com/publ...?player_id=753

MHL hockey blog (by HF writer Alessandro Rosso) breakdown on potential MHL players (from 2009
Quote:
Nowadays' most interesting player is a versatile forward who isn't spending much time in the MHL as he's playing with the big boys in the KHL and just recently scored his first goal. We're talking about Daniil Sobchenko, an offensive player capable to play both center and winger who almost never represented Russia on the international stage because of conflicts with Vladimir Plyuschev. Sobchenko, who has his excellent passing game as main weapon, was thought to be one of the MHL stars, but he's going beyond the expectations, playing a regular role in the KHL.
http://russianjuniorleague.blogspot....ho-part-2.html


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Pick Notes: The second of two pics used by San Jose that were their own (no trades involved)
Pre-Draft Rankings
CSB: 121 NAS
ISS: Unknown
TSN: N/A
THN: N/A
TSR: N/A
(CSB = NHL Central Scouting, ISS = Int'l Scouting Service, TSN = Bob McKenzie's TSN.ca rankings, THN = The Hockey News Draft Preview, TSR = TheScoutingReport.org)

Last Season Stats

TeamGPGAPPIM
Mississauga673242770


Player Notes
  • Teammate of Sharks prospect J.P. Anderson
  • 4th among defenceman scoring on the Majors, 2nd among draft-age players to only 1st rounder Stuart Percy
  • Recorded 5 points in 20 playoff games with the Majors in 10-11
  • Memorial Cup participant with the Majors in 2011



Scouting Reports

TSR report from a January Mississauga game
Quote:
This player appears to have a solid offensive skill set and awareness. He gets a lot of powerplay time and has a very good point shot, one that is both hard and accurate. Dylan is often caught trying to force the pass to a teammate, and this resulted in a handful of turnovers tonight. His average size does not lend itself to winning puck battles, which was something that was illustrated often against a big and strong Saginaw squad. He, nevertheless, is an aggressive player and does not shy away from physical play. He should see his name called at some point in the upcoming draft, especially with the opportunity for added exposure in the Memorial Cup.
http://www.thescoutingreport.org/mis...ga-hosts-west/

2009 report on Jr B players deciding between the OHL and NCAA
Quote:
Dylan DeMelo’s, of the Ontario Junior Hockey League’s Mississauga Charges, play can be compared to that of Luke Juha. He is an offensive minded defenseman, who has great vision and rarely make’s poor decisions with the puck. Overall he is an offensive force for the Chargers. A 2nd round draft choice of the St. Michael’s Majors, was signed by Mississauga in the off-season. The London native was sent down to Mississauga to work on his overall game and adapt to playing with people who are older and stronger than him.
DeMelo never second guessed his decision to play in the OHL, and is adapting well in the OJHL. Currently he sits with two points in four games for the Chargers, and has missed six games with an undisclosed injury. It will be expected that Dylan DeMelo will suit up for the St. Micheal’s Majors next season, while the fans have every reason to get excited for the offensive blue liner.
http://www.thescoutingreport.org/ohl...defining-path/


More Links
Hockeydb.com stats page
Mississauga St. Mike's Majors player page


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Pick Notes: Pick acquired from Winnipeg along with the 5th rounder used to select Sean Kuraly.
Pre-Draft Rankings
CSB: 173 NAS
ISS: Unknown
TSN: N/A
THN: N/A
TSR: N/A
(CSB = NHL Central Scouting, ISS = Int'l Scouting Service, TSN = Bob McKenzie's TSN.ca rankings, THN = The Hockey News Draft Preview, TSR = TheScoutingReport.org)

Last Season Stats

TeamGPGAPPIM
St. John's25333366?


Player Notes
  • Committed to Harvard University
  • Won ESPN Boston's 1st annual "Mr Hockey" award for the best Boston-area high school hockey player.
  • Scored 16 points in 5 games during St John's 10-11 playoffs season.



Scouting Reports

None available currently


More Links
Hockeydb.com stats page


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Additional Draft Notes
  • The final tally of leagues for the draft was: 2 OHL, 1 NCAA, 1 USHL, 1 USHS, and 1 KHL
  • Daniil Sobchenko was the first Russian drafted by SJ since 1st rounder Andrei Zyuzin in 1996
  • For the 13th time in the past 14 drafts the Sharks selected a player from New England high school or collegiate ranks (2009 was the lone NE-less year dating all the way back to 1997)
  • 3 players selected in this draft came from teams that had Sharks prospects on them during 10-11: Nieto (BU/now ex-shark Coyle), Sefton (Sudbury/Sgarbossa), and DeMelo (Mississauga/Anderson)
  • For the 3rd straight year, no goaltenders were selected. This ties for the org's longest goalie-less streak in the draft (1997-1999)
  • After the 2010 draft in which 6 of the 8 picks were collegiate or college-bound, 2011 returns to previously established Sharks track record of 50% or less of players chosen being from the US collegiate development track.

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Colin Blackwell regular season:
25 games
33 goals
33 assists
66 points
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Playoffs:
5 games
7 goals
9 assists
16 points

I'm trying to run down other info but the school doesn't have a sports information director (or at least one that will talk to a blogger).

EDIT: He is a high school senior but will not be attending Harvard next season...he's going to play one season for the Boston Junior Bruins program in Eastern Junior Hockey League or maybe in the USHL. From there he'll go to Harvard.


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Sobchenko looks like the most interesting prospect. it's exciting to have a Russian prospect in our system! maybe that's why i've been reading about him so much.

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Good job on putting all this together. The info really helps shed more light.

Nieto is freakin' fast:







Justin Sefton (he's got plenty of vids for fighting - http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...in+sefton&aq=f) :







Sean Kuraly:





Daniil Sobchenko:

It's a long video, but Sobchenko is #14.


1:00 - Sobchenko is smart by hanging around the neutral zone while his two teammates are fighting for the puck high in the offensive zone. But Sobchenko makes a mistake by trying to challenge the puck carrier and allows for a 3-2 the other way. He should have retreated to help nullify that pass to Howden that went through his goalie's crease. And he was a bit slow on the backcheck.

2:56 - Is active on the PP, does a good job of reading the play and goes to the open space where he can help bailout his teammate. After getting the puck back to his teammate, he notices the play and does the smart thing by drifting to the front of the net to help provide a screen. Sees the loose puck and picks up on the opportunity.

7:01 - [This one is inconclusive, the jersey number appears to be #14, but I'm not entirely sure that its Sobchenko] He's hanging on the top right of the screen on the PK. He could have been a bit faster trying to hustle back to the front of the net and outnumber the opposition, not allowing for Weal to pounce on the loose puck. But we don't know how long he'd been on the ice and I'm not sure how his coach likes his high forwards to play the box. Also his defenseman should have been a bit more aware of who was streaking towards the front of the net.

8:37 - Good burst through the neutral zone to find an open spot to receive that outlet pass. A miss-communication once he does enter and gives a no look drop pass to no one. His team helps him recover. Once his teammates retain the puck in the zone, he's already in the far corner. As he reads the play he makes the smart decision and heads for the net to create traffic. His presence allows for Kalinin to pounce on the lucky pass/bounce and backhands it in.

9:33 - Not a whole lot here, he nabs a secondary assist by making a routine pass to his defenseman for the one-timer.

12:44 - Gets a shootout goal.



Dylan DeMelo:



That's all we need, a player to go after the more talented guys from the opposition . There are a few other fights, but he's not as dominant as Sefton.

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Long Beach paper feature on Nieto (and other local who was drafted)

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I like the Sefton pick. Looks like he could become a 6dman that is tough and will drop the gloves, like a Matt Carnker

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Sobchenko sounds like he would become an effective 3rd scoring/checking line center if his development pans out properly. Let's hope so.

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Are there even any 3rd line checking Russian centers? I think it's top-6 or bust.

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Justin Sefton listed on the NHL Draft "All-Steal" Squad...

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Sefton, who emerged was the shutdown defenceman for Sudbury this season. The Thunder Bay, Ont., native has seen his rep yo-yo across his two OHL seasons (he was a high pick in the 2009 priority selection draft). He might be a case in which many teams got turned off, but one team stayed the course.

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Does anyone think the Ukrainian kid can make the opening night roster? He is a bit older than many draft picks, played in the KHL and is still only 20 yrs old. Does anyone remember him from the World Jrs this year? I am definitely intrigued by this draft pick. DW doesnt go to eastern europe for drafting too often...

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could be wrong but i thought i heard somewhere that sobchenko has stated he has no interest in coming to north america.

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Does anyone think the Ukrainian kid can make the opening night roster? He is a bit older than many draft picks, played in the KHL and is still only 20 yrs old. Does anyone remember him from the World Jrs this year? I am definitely intrigued by this draft pick. DW doesnt go to eastern europe for drafting too often...
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Are there even any 3rd line checking Russian centers? I think it's top-6 or bust.
Artem Chubarov comes to mind.

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could be wrong but i thought i heard somewhere that sobchenko has stated he has no interest in coming to north america.
That's the kinda crap I'd get into if i was a scout... But I gotta imagine these guys know there's a person under the jersey. From what I've read, he's surpassing expectations. Maybe he wants to take it a step further?

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Artem Chubarov comes to mind.
This is a great quote

Probably the first and last time it's ever said.

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At around 0:55
Blackwell scores. (I think he's #11)

2:00 he makes a pass and it results in a goal.

I like him already.

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Are there even any 3rd line checking Russian centers? I think it's top-6 or bust.
A guy like Zubrus is a great example of a 3rd line checking center.

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A guy like Zubrus is a great example of a 3rd line checking center.
Zubrus is a Lithuanian.

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A guy like Zubrus is a great example of a 3rd line checking center.
Zubrus is almost a tweener though. He's skilled enough that he should probably be a 2nd liner.

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