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07-25-2004, 01:58 PM
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What is Wrong with the NHL Today?

Well I turned to ESPN Classic this morning and there was a game on, from 1965, Game 7 of the Semi-Finals between Detroit and Chicago. The game ended 4-2 for the Chicago Blackhawks. Now, why the NHL is getting boring, or not as exciting as it was/should be.

1. The talent is spread around the league so there are only, if 1 star a team, or 1 player that can change a game with his own hands, just think if Atlanta, Nashville, Columbus didn't join the NHL, who knows what team Kovalchuk, Heatley, Nash, Zherdev, and Legwand would be on.

2. There is a whistle every 30 seconds, we can't just watch and enjoy the game, the games are now taking about 3 hours for one game, of 60 minutes of playing time, isn't that getting a bit ridiculous?

3. The Goalies are covered in too much protection! Not that way, but I mean their pads cover the whole net basically, now I don't think they should cut the pads size in half, but take off about 3-4 inches, they still need a little protection since the shots are harder etc. than before with the new sticks.

4. There are too many penalties, IMO. They think that just because there are more powerplays etc. it will create higher scores. It is obviously not working, so whats the point? Quit calling the cheap little penalties, and call more dives.

5. Change the offsides to tag offsides,(I think that is what they're called, when as long as they get out of the zone they can come back in and go after it.) also take out the red line, imo, that would create alot more scoring chances, odd man rushes.

6. Something has to be done about the instigator rule.

Thoughts? Maybe you can add something.

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1. The talent is spread around the league so there are only, if 1 star a team, or 1 player that can change a game with his own hands
Hey, that OuKast guy swiped your avatar-better deal with that.

On your first point, I'm not sure. In '65, the NHL didn't feature any Russians, Swedes, Finns, Slovaks, Americans (hardly any), and Czechs-although Mikita was born in Czech, if memory serves. Furthermore, the Habs now have to share Quebec skaters with the rest of the league, so they no longer have a farm team that could hammer the Rangers. So let's say more elite quebecois in the league as well.

Certainly, there are a lot more teams now, but there are also more players, and they're better conditioned, better equipped, and better coached. There may be factors explaining the state of today's NHL, but I'm not convinced that a lack of talent is one of them.

Another problem with the NHL is that the Cup is not in Edmonton, where it belongs.


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also take out the red line, imo, that would create alot more scoring chances, odd man rushes.
This rule will only add more icings, especially in an NHL-sized rink.

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I like the NHL of today alot better. I don't remember 1965 (honest) but I do remember watching hockey in the 60s and it's way better now.

The number 5 dman on a team 30+ years ago couldn't keep up with Bobby Allen today. I have an article somewhere in my house that basically explains that Tom Reid of the Minnesota North Stars couldn't skate backwards very well but he was working on it.

Not only are the players faster, but they don't let themselves get out of shape like they used to. Adam Oates was a wonderful player, but last off season I read somewhere that he'd retired. I'm certain he didn't have a two month nap, but he also probably didn't do his usual off season training.

We saw the impact this fall/winter.

Aside from the skill and conditioning of the athletes, the other thing that is way better now is the coaching. Video is partially responsible for this, but there have been some incredible innovators over the years (guys like Fred Shero, Scotty Bowman and Roger Neilson. Sather too) and each of them has made the game better as they've passed through.

The ONLY thing worse about today's NHL is that they've expanded from 24 to 30 in a heartbeat. If they let everything cycle through for a decade or so, then the weaker teams will have a chance to strengthen themselves.

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Well, I didn't mean it was better in 1965 than now, but like in the 70's and 80's, just that game reminded of the olden days right, not that I remember it, but i've watched games. I think it would be better if there were less teams because sure the players are better now, but teams would be even better than now because they would have better players, and then the Farm Teams would have better players too.

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here an interesting concept:

what if NHL salaries are to blame for the lack-of-product on the ice?

i mean, lets think here... back in th early 90's when hockey was fun to watch, salaries had yet to balloon.. that meant every team could afford decent hockey players.. you didn't have teams like colorado and the rangers bidding up salaries yet... that meant small market teams could afford a competitive team without too many worries (now of course back then, there were marketing and ticket sales problems tho)

but in the mid 90's when salaries ballooned, you saw a change in the style of play.. teams could not afford big name players and thus had to switch to a more defensive style in order to win

coaching positions were less secure due to the need to win... owners forked out largers salaries for borderline star players and more and more teams had to revert to the safer defence first mentality

i think if the NHL can control its salaries and allow 30 competitive teams in the league you will see a return to a responsible defence but high-paced offensive game

just an interesting thought that popped into my head

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Well, I didn't mean it was better in 1965 than now, but like in the 70's and 80's, just that game reminded of the olden days right, not that I remember it, but i've watched games. I think it would be better if there were less teams because sure the players are better now, but teams would be even better than now because they would have better players, and then the Farm Teams would have better players too.
Yeah, I don't think we're disagreeing here. It's weird to see so much open ice isn't it? When the player is bearing down on the goalie it looks like the goalie is a stick man. :lol

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In no particular order, I think the following is what is wrong with the NHL today:

1. Respect. The players have no respect for each other, their coaches/GM's, or the fans. Its as if the whole Eagleson pension plan fraud has left the players with the largest chip in the world on their shoulders and they really beleive that they are more important and "are owed" ever since. This results in them doing serious injury to each other, their "screw management and the fans" mentality, and an economic environment that is pricing the game to death.

2. NHL Player Agents. These guys are for the most part scum. They only have one rule and that is get as much as they can while they can, oh and maybe a little for the player. They never consider what damage they are doing to the game and in a way to the players. Players used to be respected, worshipped almost. Now they are just assets and they only have themselves to blame.

3. Bettman. This guy really has no clue. What has he achieved since he started running the league. TV revenues are still no better. The on ice product is going down hill. Tractor pulls have higher ratings than the NHL in the US. Wayne Gretzky for Commish??

4. The season is too long. The schedule should be 72 games.

5. There should be a European conference. I am sure that 5 teams could be supported in Europe and then we can get rid of 5 current teams that cant attract fans in the US. Plus I am betting that a European TV contract could add some cash.

6. The Refs believe they are part of the show when in reality, the best games are the ones where you do not even realize there was a ref on the ice. By the way, go back to one ref. And as far as video review, any team can ask for one but if it goes against you, delay of game penalty.

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head. Sorry for the rant.

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European Conference? Travelling would cost alot...I'm not sure how many players would like the idea of being drafted to a Swedish team and having to live there the entire season.

IMO the only problem with the NHL is the financial part of it. Under the current CBA, the minute St. Louis, Richards, and Lecavalier become UFAs Tampa will become us in the early 90s.

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Its not much more expensive than a east/west coast team travelling to the other coast. And if a swedish player can get drafted and have to move to atlanta, why not an Alberta boy going to malmo?? And at the rate things are going, european teams are becoming competitive salary-wise and some players do not want to come to the nhl. They can play at home, live comfortably and do not have to live in NA.

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And as far as video review, any team can ask for one but if it goes against you, delay of game penalty.
This is a pretty good idea IMO, anything to cut down time between whistles, and the amount of whistles, is fine by me (I still don't understand why they took out the tag up rule in the first place, lets just gaurantee more stops in play) I really like the games with plenty of changes on the fly.

Has anybody else ever noticed that most goals are scored when on team has been out of the ice too long and is tiring and making poor decisions? With shifts shortening and whistles more often, scoring dropped quite a bit IMO.

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I agree that the tag up should be brought back. It just forces teams to go to the trap when the offense can have 1/3 of the ice to get organized. I think it would speed up the play and I always liked the aggressive forecheck after the tag.

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