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07-26-2004, 09:55 AM
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Fedorov being shopped

BOOTH NEWSPAPERS/MLIVE.COM: Ansar Khan reports the Anaheim Mighty Ducks are "desperately trying to trade Sergei Fedorov" but to date haven't found an takers. Khan claims the Ducks have offered him back to the Detroit Red Wings on two occasions but the Wings have no interest.

The oilers can do this deal. Anaheim is rebuilding and we could offer kids without depleting our system. In order to clear salary, Lowe has allready dumped Salo. He would have to dump smith as well. He has allready offered 3.5 mill to Nedved so he has some salary space.


IMO, Fedorov would be the perfect oiler. He skates as well as anyone in the league. He is smart, not injury prone, and puts up over a point a game. With Bryan Murray no longer in Anaheim, they may take Lowe's phone calls.

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I brought it up in another thread, but it wasnt discussed at all. I couldnt agree with you more. Our chances at a healthy Alison are slim, and Nedved is on his way out of here so why not. We need a true first line offensive threat in the franchise, in todays NHL better he is in the top 10 players that fits that description IMO. Having said that I would not want to give up roster bodies, or top prospects. So could it be done then?? I dont know. I guess it depends on how desperate they are to unload him.

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doesn't Fedorov make like 8 mil per season? if we COULD afford that, i'm sure Nedved would be signed by now. I just don't see it happening, as much as i'd love it, he's too expensive.

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BOOTH NEWSPAPERS/MLIVE.COM: Ansar Khan reports the Anaheim Mighty Ducks are "desperately trying to trade Sergei Fedorov" but to date haven't found an takers. Khan claims the Ducks have offered him back to the Detroit Red Wings on two occasions but the Wings have no interest.

The oilers can do this deal. Anaheim is rebuilding and we could offer kids without depleting our system. In order to clear salary, Lowe has allready dumped Salo. He would have to dump smith as well. He has allready offered 3.5 mill to Nedved so he has some salary space.


IMO, Fedorov would be the perfect oiler. He skates as well as anyone in the league. He is smart, not injury prone, and puts up over a point a game. With Bryan Murray no longer in Anaheim, they may take Lowe's phone calls.

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Lowe made it pretty clear last season he has no intention of dumping or trading Smith, so that doesn't seem likely as part of the equation to free up money in a bid to acquire Nedved, Allison or anybody else.
Nedved, pending marching orders from his wife, will be available for $3-$3.5 million a season. Allison, providing he's healthy, can probably be had for about the same base salary plus incentives to bump it up a bit. Fedorov is too pricey for the Oilers.
I'd say chances of this happening are zero. None.

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Like I said about the Thornton thing... now is what requires the most patience.

Picking up a $7 or 8 million player doesn't make sense at this point in time.

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Nedved who?

If we could somehow get Federov (I'm not even going to try to find out what we'd be giving up), I'd have a hard time deciding which one of these to use (I had much more, but it wouldn't let me post them all)

But I don't think I'll be getting 91 on my Oilers jersey any time soon.

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I'm underwhelmed at the prospect of Fedorov in Edmonton: he's old, expensive, and his best days are behind him. He doesn't fit with the direction this team is heading (post-2004 CBA competitiveness). It just doesn't make sense.

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Honestly I would be more inclined to go after Demitra then Federov. He would be cheaper and is as big of an offensive threat. The defense isn't as good, but put D-vo and Smyth on the line with him and that would be just fine

Smyth - Demitra - Dvorak
Torres - York - Isbister
Horcoff- Reasoner - Hemsky
Moreau - Stoll - Pisani

Rita, Laraque

That is a great top 6 imho

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I'm underwhelmed at the prospect of Fedorov in Edmonton: he's old, expensive, and his best days are behind him. He doesn't fit with the direction this team is heading (post-2004 CBA competitiveness). It just doesn't make sense.
The Oilers will *be* competitive post-2004 if we bring in a quality center.

I'd like a 3 year stop-gap to buy time for Pouliot and Niinimaki and Schremp. Fedorov would be great-- if we could afford him, of course. I've heard that his salary in the upcoming season is $6 million, which is steep but not completely out of the question. Especially with the potential for revenue-sharing or a luxury tax in the new CBA. Pavol Demitra is another interesting option, who I'd forgotten about until s7ark mentioned him.


edit: I had a point when I started writing, and I guess what I wanted to say was that my interest in Fedorov would depend a lot on how much it would take to pry him out of Anaheim.


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Don't forget that after this season the next two years on the contract would be player option years.

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If Anaheim picks up a portion of the contract, I fine with it although I like s7ark's idea of going after Demitra. I will never support a player that makes $8M and that the Oilers actually pay all the salary.

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The Oilers will *be* competitive post-2004 if we bring in a quality center.

I'd like a 3 year stop-gap to buy time for Pouliot and Niinimaki and Schremp. Fedorov would be great-- if we could afford him, of course. I've heard that his salary in the upcoming season is $6 million, which is steep but not completely out of the question. Especially with the potential for revenue-sharing or a luxury tax in the new CBA. Pavol Demitra is another interesting option, who I'd forgotten about until s7ark mentioned him.


edit: I had a point when I started writing, and I guess what I wanted to say was that my interest in Fedorov would depend a lot on how much it would take to pry him out of Anaheim.
Exactly, Demitra is UFA so he wouldn't cost us anything. Federov we could either get for very little return (player-wise) if we take on the whole salary, or get for a big return (player-wise) and Anaheim pays some salary for the next few years.

Either of those choices don't sit too well for me. I would prefer to sign an UFA that doesn't cost us anything in the way of players and that we can dump in a few years to make room for Niinimaki/Pouliot/Schremp

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The way I see it, Federov would be a perfect fit in Edmonton for a couple years as a stop gap! His game IS perfect for the Oilers and exactly what EVERY coach dreams of having... a point/game offensive threat that can log BIG minutes while playing very good defensively. There is no doubt in my mind that he'd be a great pick up if it wouldn't cost us an arm and a leg. I mean if he is due to make 6 million coming up this year, then we could get the Ducks to eat 1-1.5 million of the deal, that would pretty much leave Sergei taking up Oates and Salo's money.... I know there are other increases out there that will take up cash... but I think it'd be doable.

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Well...

If Anaheim is so desperate to get rid of him we shouldn't have to give up much to get him. Something along the lines of the Jagr for Carter trade we saw last year.

How about Isbister + 2005 3rd Round Pick for Federov and $3 Million paid/yr off his salary?

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Well...

If Anaheim is so desperate to get rid of him we shouldn't have to give up much to get him. Something along the lines of the Jagr for Carter trade we saw last year.

How about Isbister + 2005 3rd Round Pick for Federov and $3 Million paid/yr off his salary?
uh... I don't think that's gonna work. If they're kicking in that amount of cash, they're going to want a lot more than Izzy. Isbister at $1.5m + $3m paid to the Oil would still cost the Ducks $4.5m a year, which isn't that big a savings vs the $6m I believe Fedorov gets in the upcoming season.

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Laraque + Salmelainen for Fedorov + some salary paid

Too much to give up? Or not enough?

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My post above was made with the idea that Anaheim was somewhat desperate to get rid of Fedorov. If they're not, well, I know it would take a lot more than what I proposed.

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cloned, I think they are desperate and here is why

ESPN The Magazine's E.J. Hradek has learned that the contract terms are $10 million for 2003-04, $6 million in 2004-05 and $8 million a year for 2005-06 through 2007-08. Fedorov has an option to become a free agent after years two and three of the deal.

if anaheim thinks they are in a rebuild and sirguy is going to opt for ufa after this year, then they amy as well save the money and use his ice-time for their kids. IMO, Murray was a fool for giving him this much money and this many out clauses. I can only hope there are team options as well.

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cloned, I think they are desperate and here is why

ESPN The Magazine's E.J. Hradek has learned that the contract terms are $10 million for 2003-04, $6 million in 2004-05 and $8 million a year for 2005-06 through 2007-08. Fedorov has an option to become a free agent after years two and three of the deal.

if anaheim thinks they are in a rebuild and sirguy is going to opt for ufa after this year, then they amy as well save the money and use his ice-time for their kids. IMO, Murray was a fool for giving him this much money and this many out clauses. I can only hope there are team options as well.
Well, Murray did have the money freed up from not being able to re-sign Kariya. I'm not condoning the amount of money he threw in Fedorov's face, but he did have the means to do it.

If Anaheim really is that desperate to get rid of him, then what do you think of my proposal above?

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