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07-01-2011, 02:55 PM
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I heard a rumbling about Sutton for Foster and a pick...
Yeah, we had a thread on the rumors board a while ago that had this as a basis. It was one of the rare occasions where basically all fans for both sides agreed.

With Barker there in Edmonton, it would make even more sense.

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I'm sure no income tax makes Florida look pretty damn good as well
Hey Cali's state sales tax went down 1% today. That should account for something!

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Hey Cali's state sales tax went down 1% today. That should account for something!

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Yeah SoCal sounds so bad comparing it to Florida
When he gets to keep his entire salary, yeah, it makes it look a little worse.

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When he gets to keep his entire salary, yeah, it makes it look a little worse.
I didn't know that...nice info.

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I didn't know that...nice info.
I guess you wouldn't, a lot of Americans aren't privy to their own state's financial laws.

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TSN just said Sutton for Foster.
The "expert" has been moved.

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Am told Ducks might have one signing today if it goes well. More likely something within next few days. Please no July 4. - Eric Stephens

Sutton for Foster
That's a trade though, not a signing.

Leino is also out; Buffalo $27/6

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Now TSN backpeddling, saying deal not final.

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I'm sure no income tax makes Florida look pretty damn good as well
No state income tax is not quite the benefit for a player that it is for you or I. Most states that have an income tax now charge state income tax for out of state players that play an away game in that state. This started about 10 -15 years ago, with Shaq and his salary of $200,000 plus per game being one of the main examples used by taxing authorities.

As an example, if a player makes $2 million a year, that is about $25,000 a game. California will require that player to file an income tax and pay income on that $25,000 for every game that the player plays in California. There is a tax credit granted for state income tax paid by that player in his home state. However, if there is no income tax in the player's home state, the entire payment is subject to California income tax.

Given the number of games that Florida plays in states that have income state income tax, such as New York, there is a reasonable state income tax hit for a player on the Panthers. The good news from the player's perspective is that he does not pay any income tax on the half of his salary that he earns in playing home games.

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07-01-2011, 03:39 PM
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No state income tax is not quite the benefit for a player that it is for you or I. Most states that have an income tax now charge state income tax for out of state players that play an away game in that state. This started about 10 -15 years ago, with Shaq and his salary of $200,000 plus per game being one of the main examples used by taxing authorities.

As an example, if a player makes $2 million a year, that is about $25,000 a game. California will require that player to file an income tax and pay income on that $25,000 for every game that the player plays in California. There is a tax credit granted for state income tax paid by that player in his home state. However, if there is no income tax in the player's home state, the entire payment is subject to California income tax.

Given the number of games that Florida plays in states that have income state income tax, such as New York, there is a reasonable state income tax hit for a player on the Panthers. The good news from the player's perspective is that he does not pay any income tax on the half of his salary that he earns in playing home games.
California income tax is 11% at that bracket. 11% NOT paid on 50% of 1.7M is still $93,500......

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07-01-2011, 03:49 PM
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Looks like Murray's going to wait around and watch all of the decent players get signed again like last year and be left with all the scraps. Fun...

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Looks like Murray's going to wait around and watch all of the decent players get signed again like last year and be left with all the scraps. Fun...
Again, I am ok with him not signing anyone yet(expect Goc). Guys are simply getting paid too much right now. Ward at 3 million? No thank you sir.

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Has another GM done less during this offseason than what Murray has?

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Again, I am ok with him not signing anyone yet(expect Goc). Guys are simply getting paid too much right now. Ward at 3 million? No thank you sir.
Yep totally agree with this.

I'm sure sometimes people just ***** about BM because of things he's done in the past. This is one of the few times your actually happy they haven't gone after anyone.

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Again, I am ok with him not signing anyone yet(expect Goc). Guys are simply getting paid too much right now. Ward at 3 million? No thank you sir.
This.

I am perfectly fine with Murray standing pat. These contracts are ridiculous and will hurt some of these teams in the long run. We will be fine.

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I think Miettinen could be a good 3rd line RW for us. I could see Murray signing him to a reasonable contract. Still unsure about our 3rd line center position however.

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Looks like Murray's going to wait around and watch all of the decent players get signed again like last year and be left with all the scraps. Fun...
next summer will be better with Blake, Koivu, Beauchemin, Sutton(or Foster) deals off the books.

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Did Belanger sign? I have been half paying attention most of the day.

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Did Belanger sign? I have been half paying attention most of the day.
not yet.

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not yet.
Might just have with the Oilers, according to Renaud Lavoie.

Unless they overpaid, that does sting a little.

EDIT: $1.75m. Not too bad. :/

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Dreger says Belanger to Edmonton 3 years 1.75M average

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Belanger @ $1.7M per year to Edmonton.

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