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NHL investigating Nashville Preds concerning QO's - NHLPA files grievance
If one of the RFA's agents claimed that they didn't get their QO on time as part of a slick ploy to get a bigger payday on July 1...might have been confusion on their end, as well.
If this happened (hasn't been confirmed) this is not a mistake you make when it happened just 2 years ago there are no excuses for this to happen if Gillis had done this we'd be calling stupidity
Some fans around here seem like they are fishing for folks to insult people affiliated with their team. I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that if anyone simply forgot to tender QOs to their RFAs (or just didn't do it for whatever reason) it would be considered stupidity, not just a person in Vancouver...
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Originally Posted by LickTheEnvelope
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I don't get it. Why would there be speculation?
Because nothing is confirmed. The Predators organization is claiming they did everything right. Poile doesn't seem too concerned about it at development camp right now, and it's often easy to tell if Poile is concerned just by looking at him. Of course, comments made by the club and the expressions on a GMs face don't prove anything, but still nothing is confirmed.
Here is a statement from NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly, putting to rest any speculation on this:
"We are not aware of any defects relating to Qualifying Offers tendered by the Nashville Predators to certain of the team's Players as several media outlets are reporting. Those Players having timely received Qualifying Offers will be Restricted Free Agents as of July 1, and both the Players and the team will be accorded the various rights and benefits of Restricted Free Agency as are set forth in CBA."
Yes, but what are the chances that Poile pesonally mailed the QOs. Close to nil I say. Some intern or underling might have forgot to send it with the mail/FedEx/UPS.
lol I don't think offers are sent through regular mail
You know, I never knew that sending out qualifying offers to players was so friggen' hard...
Not that hard - just very technical.
Here is the process for QO's. It is quite strict - close enough does not count.
In order to receive a Right of First Refusal or Draft Choice Compensation (at the Prior Club's option) with respect to a Restricted Free Agent, the Prior Club of a Restricted Free Agent must tender to the Player, no later than 5:00 p.m. New York Time on the later of June 25 or the first Monday after the Entry Draft...
In this case the first Monday after the Entry Draft applies so 5:00 pm June 27, 2011.
And there is a specific form of notice for the tendered QO:
A Qualifying Offer will be deemed to have met the above requirements if the Prior Club timely provides the Player a completed copy of the notice attached as Exhibit 19 hereto, in accordance with Exhibit 3 hereto.
And this notice must be delivered as set out in Exhibit 3 of the CBA.
During the Playing Season, a Player shall receive notice(s) from his Club via hand delivery. From the day after the conclusion of a Player's Playing Season until the commencement of the Player's subsequent Playing Season, notice(s) shall be sent via overnight delivery to the Player's off-season address which the Player provides to the Club, and if no such address is provided by the Player, the notice(s) shall be sent via overnight delivery to the Player's last known address.
Unless the Player has designated his Agent's address as his off-season address, providing the notice of QO to the Agent does not fulfill the requirements nor does faxing it to the NHL Registry.
"Overnight delivery" has been interpreted to mean via overnight courier and not via postal service even if registered.
In the Tallon screw-up he first claimed that Canada Day interfered with postal delivery and that the QO notices were postmarked before the expiry date and time. But that timeline was wrong and postal service should not be used so the postmark claim was a red herring. Then he claimed that providing copies to the agents and filing with the NHL was sufficient - it was not.
Finally he admitted the QO's were improperly transmitted to the players. The Hawks were able to re-sign the players before July 1 by offering more money and/or term than they might otherwise have done. And that created cap problems down the road.
At this point we do not know for sure what breach of the notice of QO process is being alleged in the Nashville case.
And the Hawks snafu was not the first case where this happened:
Back in 2000, the New Jersey Devils forgot to send paperwork for Brian Rafalski(notes) and John Madden(notes) and both became free agents that could be signed without compensation. Rafalski had been making $450,000 at the time and Madden $550,000. Due to the error, New Jersey general manager Lou Lamoriello had to act quick and locked both players up to four year deals with Rafalski earning $11 million and Madden $7 million.
As per usual, media and HF members jump to conclusions
Hell even some members of our own fanbase.. like i said earlier till anything from the League is given I dont see how they would make this big of a mistake..
Hell even some members of our own fanbase.. like i said earlier till anything from the League is given I dont see how they would make this big of a mistake..
A statement from the league WAS given. See my previous post
A statement from the league WAS given. See my previous post
lol think you misunderstood what I ment.. I was referring to earlier with everyone freaking out acting like it was Gospel and we didn't send the QO's out.. and taking the word of the media even though no statement at the time from the league was given. Guess what I was trying to say was.. then its a bone head move this bad, dont believe it till its announced from ether the team or nhl..
