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06-29-2011, 03:49 PM
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So if a GM has a huge asset like Stamkos and he has zero bargaining power (or very little) then Burke can waltz in and get him for less than he is worth.

It may take more than Ross, McKegg, Rynnas and a 1st but it won't be ludicrously expensive either. Burke isn't trying to do Yzerman any favours. If the Lightning don't have the money to keep Stamkos, then getting young roster players that have some good upside and can stay on the books for a satisfying amount of money, then that's got appeal for a guy in Yzerman's boots.
Oh, I wish. Problem is that other teams can offer better packages to Tampa. I think we should try to offer something in the range of our strength (goalies, d prospects, some forwards, Grabo, MaC, but not McKegg) and see if we can outbid other teams on salary. If Stamkos want to go only to Leafs then it would really simplify process for all parties involved (especially Phili ).

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I knew it all along. There is no way they sign before July 1st with the numbers being thrown around for Richards.

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I knew it all along. There is no way they sign before July 1st with the numbers being thrown around for Richards.
Thats just from the CSNPhilly article linked on previous page of this thread. Nothing new there.


OT: Totally forgot, Burke said that he won't hand out long 10 term contracts to 31 years olds. however, same won't be the case for 21 year old. cue the speculations.

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I knew it all along. There is no way they sign before July 1st with the numbers being thrown around for Richards.
Did anyone Twitter that the sky is blue today?

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Thats just from the CSNPhilly article linked on previous page of this thread. Nothing new there.


OT: Totally forgot, Burke said that he won't hand out long 10 term contracts to 31 years olds. however, same won't be the case for 21 year old. cue the speculations.
only just a ****ing dream..only just a dream...keep it cool guys...keep it cool...he will be a bolt

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Don't know if this has been posted yet but Roloson just signed for 3m. That means If Stamkos got what he's worth TB has 7m for 5 players. And they still want to sign Purcell. The more and more people they sign the more I see Stamkos leaving town. And Toronto is the #1 destination. No GM signs Brewer, a 41 year old dinosaur (Roloson) a defensive liabilty (Bergeron) etc before your superstar unless he's leaving town.
Try $18.8 mil left - that's $.1 mil more than the leafs.

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only just a ****ing dream..only just a dream...keep it cool guys...keep it cool...he will be a bolt
It gets interesting with each passing moment.

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this time of year and deadline day work productivity just dips. I cant stop looking
That's why July 1st is a holiday, right?

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I'm a bit confused...I thought teams could make an offer sheet but that it could not be signed until July 1st? or is it that you can't make the offer until July 1st?

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I knew it all along. There is no way they sign before July 1st with the numbers being thrown around for Richards.
Sabres? With Vanek still on that team and internal cap? Phili has only ~$8.3M in cap space with some RFA still to sign. I think at around $8M we would not have much of competition. We just need to beat whatever other teams offer for this coming year and match all the rest. Point being it will be hard for Phili to offer a lot of money in immediate future.

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I'm a bit confused...I thought teams could make an offer sheet but that it could not be signed until July 1st? or is it that you can't make the offer until July 1st?
you can discuss and make offers but you can't sign until the first. basically the formal offer is given on the first.

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only just a ****ing dream..only just a dream...keep it cool guys...keep it cool...he will be a bolt
Wouldn't want to get anyone's hopes up, but Burke did trade for a RFA not too long ago.

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Lightning have 18m in capspace and only need to sign 2 players. (Purcell, Stamkos).

So, they obviously have enough money. The question is, do they have the willingness to spend to the cap, even though they lost a boatload of cash this year.

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only just a ****ing dream..only just a dream...keep it cool guys...keep it cool...he will be a bolt
Let's just enjoy before we all coming crashing back down to reality like a bunch of heroin addicts.

Seriously, it doesn't get any better than this (for us at least).

And you never know, maybe we'll finally have some luck for once.

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06-29-2011, 04:01 PM
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you can discuss and make offers but you can't sign until the first. basically the formal offer is given on the first.
I see, thanks for clarifying that for me!

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Lightning have 18m in capspace and only need to sign 2 players. (Purcell, Stamkos).

So, they obviously have enough money. The question is, do they have the willingness to spend to the cap, even though they lost a boatload of cash this year.
If they wanted to they could sign both Stamkos and Richards?

9 per for Stammer
7 per for Richards
2 per for Purcell

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Let's just enjoy before we all coming crashing back down to reality like a bunch of heroin addicts.

Seriously, it doesn't get any better than this (for us at least).


And you never know, maybe we'll finally have some luck for once.
exactly.

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That's why July 1st is a holiday, right?
only a holiday if Burke does the right thing!

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If they wanted to they could sign both Stamkos and Richards?

9 per for Stammer
7 per for Richards
2 per for Purcell
Yeah, they could easily pull it off.

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you can discuss and make offers but you can't sign until the first. basically the formal offer is given on the first.
Despite the inevitable tampering goes on, I don't think that's true.

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Yeah, they could easily pull it off.
That would be scary.

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The only way the Leafs stand a chance in getting Stamkos is if things unfold the way the Kessel deal happened:

First, there must be a rift of sorts between the Lightning and Stamkos. While this is highly unlikely, perhaps Stamkos' declining production after the all-star break coupled with salary demands causes a chill in the relationship.

Second, there's got to be demand on our part. I know we have the resources and the need, hopefully management will decide they need to go in this direction to secure our final franchise cornerstone.

Thirdly, following the Kessel script, Stamkos has to want to only play in Toronto, which effectively blocks other teams from giving him an offer sheet or allowing the Tampa Bay Lightning to trade him there. This happened when Nashville was also in the Kessel sweepstakes, but since Kessel only wanted Toronto, the Bruins couldn't trade him. The Philadelphia Flyers look like they might be interested in Stamkos and they certainly have the personnel to put together something compelling, but hopefully Stamkos just wants to come home.

Fourthly, Burke gets in there and works closely with Yzerman to get him the assets that he wants all the while threatening an offer sheet if things fall through. Perhaps Yzerman gets Richards to sign in Tampa, giving him a Stamkos replacement. Perhaps we work closely with him to get him a package he's satisfied with, including immediate help as well as prospects and picks.

Finally, Stamkos is traded here and signs a contract with Toronto. It's a pipedream, but we have a man who has done it before (Burke) as well as a management team who has had the balls in the past to go for it in Nonis (Luongo) and Fletcher (Sundin, Gilmour), as well as a guy who has a lot of personal connections to the city. Please hockey gods, please let us get what we want this time!

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Despite the inevitable tampering goes on, I don't think that's true.
Well, negotiations would obviously include terms and $ with other teams.

If I am correct, Stamkos can negotiate with all 30 teams from this point on. Only advantage tampa has is it can lock him down before July 1 by agreeing with Stamkos.

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