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[NYI/BUF] Ehrhoff's rights to Buffalo for 4th rounder

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06-29-2011, 10:24 PM
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And I'm delusional because I think the Canucks have a better chance than sabres to sign him lol

Somehow Sabres are going to magically convince the 2 best free agents sign in Buffalo

There's a difference from being a playoff contender than being a cup contender players like Ehrhoff/Richards are gonna go look for the best cozy offer where they can be a compliment to a solid team not where they have to be the main piece
This is getting stupid. WHAT are you basing this grammatically-challenged theory on exactly???

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06-29-2011, 10:28 PM
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May be a little OT, but quick question:

If a players rights gets traded to another team, is he obliged to at least talk to the GM to hear their offer, or can he completely ignore them and pretend nothing ever happened? I wonder because it would be quite funny if a team traded for a player's rights and they weren't able to get in contact with him before July 1st.

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06-29-2011, 10:29 PM
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Market determines value, dude. Basic economics.
dude, how come you mistake basic economics so badly? What you were talking about is market price, not market value.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_value

Market value is a concept distinct from market price, which is “the price at which one can transact”, while market value is “the true underlying value” according to theoretical standards.

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May be a little OT, but quick question:

If a players rights gets traded to another team, is he obliged to at least talk to the GM to hear their offer, or can he completely ignore them and pretend nothing ever happened? I wonder because it would be quite funny if a team traded for a player's rights and they weren't able to get in contact with him before July 1st.
The player can do whatever the hell he wants. But the player wants to get paid, so picking up the phone won't hurt him in that respect.

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If Crosby and Malkin are healthy, the rest of the Eastern conference is screwed. Throw in a decent Jagr and it's a nightmare for the rest of the Eastern conference.
Oh no....we are mortified. Jagr brings nothing, he's a side show.

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Malkin hasn't had the amazing point production since the SC runs (though.... he's still a great #1 center let alone #2).

Pittsburg, Boston, Philly and Washington (and maybe the Lightning) are all players in the East. Vancouver, Detroit, San Jose and Chicago are the players in the West. I don't see how you think any team in the East is so vastly superior to the Sabres right now id they sign Ehrhoff. If they do get a #1 Center (rumor has it that if Richards doesn't come that Sabres have a trade for Spezza) you can't say they aren't contenders in the East.

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BUF GM Darcy Regier will talk to Christian Ehrhoff via phone in a.m. Just my opinion, but I think there could be a real good fit there.
Which raises the question... a.m. in Germany or a.m. in Buffalo? Six hour time difference, Darcy still working... why not stay up until 2:00 local time?

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I take this to mean the Sabres are fairly confident they can sign him, though I'm not sure I'd be happy about the amount they'd need to do it. At the very least, though, they will have a better idea of what their options are come Friday, which I suppose is worth the 4th rounder depending on how the weekend turns out.

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This is getting stupid. WHAT are you basing this grammatically-challenged theory on exactly???
History,go look at top of their class free agents that leave there teams in the cap era it's very rare they go to a 7-last place seeded team

The way I see it is Ehrhoff will only sign in Buffalo if they give him a 6-7 year 6+ mill a year deal if not he's signing in Detroit or Boston

Brad Richards will sign with the Rangers

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Oh no....we are mortified. Jagr brings nothing, he's a side show.
A motivated Jagr is always a concern. You never know man.

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Which raises the question... a.m. in Germany or a.m. in Buffalo? Six hour time difference, Darcy still working... why not stay up until 2:00 local time?
He should just stay up and drink and then when he signs Ehrhoff to a 7 year contract worth $45M he can blame the alcohol.

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History,go look at top of their class free agents that leave there teams in the cap era it's very rare they go to a 7-last place seeded team

The way I see it is Ehrhoff will only sign in Buffalo if they give him a 6-7 year 6+ mill a year deal if not he's signing in Detroit or Boston

Brad Richards will sign with the Rangers
I'm glad you seem to have insight into Christian's mind. Must be nice to have that type of ability.

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History,go look at top of their class free agents that leave there teams in the cap era it's very rare they go to a 7-last place seeded team

The way I see it is Ehrhoff will only sign in Buffalo if they give him a 6-7 year 6+ mill a year deal if not he's signing in Detroit or Boston

Brad Richards will sign with the Rangers
Ehrhoff won't go to the Sabres because they were the 7 seed last year, but Brad Richards will happily go to an 8th seeded team because THAT'S the "cozy offer where he can be a compliment to a solid team not where he has to be the main piece"[sic].

Stop making so much sense.

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History,go look at top of their class free agents that leave there teams in the cap era it's very rare they go to a 7-last place seeded team

The way I see it is Ehrhoff will only sign in Buffalo if they give him a 6-7 year 6+ mill a year deal if not he's signing in Detroit or Boston

Brad Richards will sign with the Rangers
So then according to your logic why is Brad Richards going to 8th Seed New York?

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Wouldn't it be incredible if Ehrhoff signed with the Isles after July 1st.
Go back to the Nucks?

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I'm glad you seem to have insight into Christian's mind. Must be nice to have that type of ability.
I guess we'll see in a couple days who overpays for his services or who gets fair value (if he signs with buffalo it won't be fair value)

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May be a little OT, but quick question:

If a players rights gets traded to another team, is he obliged to at least talk to the GM to hear their offer, or can he completely ignore them and pretend nothing ever happened? I wonder because it would be quite funny if a team traded for a player's rights and they weren't able to get in contact with him before July 1st.

I'm sure their agent would at least take a call and say they weren't interested, but I don't think there's any obligation there at all.

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So then according to your logic why is Brad Richards going to 8th Seed New York?
If the rangers didn't get hit with injury bug they're not an 8th place seed and John Tortorella

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if he signs with buffalo it won't be fair value
And what do you think his fair value is, keeping in mind that he's rumored to be looking for at least $5 mil per year?

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I guess we'll see in a couple days who overpays for his services or who gets fair value (if he signs with buffalo it won't be fair value)
Lay it out with some specifics. You can't just say that if he signs with Buffalo it won't be fair value. Give some actual numbers to go along with your prediction. I'll get the popcorn ready.

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I guess we'll see in a couple days who overpays for his services or who gets fair value (if he signs with buffalo it won't be fair value)
So did you burn your Ehrhoff jersey in the riots? Or are you putting it on Ebay?

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If the rangers didn't get hit with injury bug they're not an 8th place seed and John Tortorella
Of course you remember that Buffalo was missing their most productive offensive player for much of the season and just about all of the playoffs.

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So did you burn your Ehrhoff jersey in the riots? Or are you putting it on Ebay?
Keeping mine for when Airhoff signs with the Canucks on July 1st.

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And what do you think his fair value is, keeping in mind that he's rumored to be looking for at least $5 mil per year?
Look i'm not trying to take shots at your team/fans that's not who I am (and I actually like the Sabres)

Ehrhoff from what we've heard here in Vancouver is he's looking for 5.5 a year but 7-8 years,the Canucks offfered him Bieksa's contract which was 5 years 4.6 per he didn't like it so Gillis walked

If anyone signs Ehrhoff for more than 5.5 and over 4 years it will turn out to be a bad contract whoever does it (Canucks included)

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History,go look at top of their class free agents that leave there teams in the cap era it's very rare they go to a 7-last place seeded team

The way I see it is Ehrhoff will only sign in Buffalo if they give him a 6-7 year 6+ mill a year deal if not he's signing in Detroit or Boston

Brad Richards will sign with the Rangers
The way you see it, you refuse to accept that Ehrhoff and the Nucks were not a fit above $4.6 million AAV and believe that for anyone else to sign him will cost over 30% more than that, which is nothing more than you trying to salve your conscience that he didn't sign with your team.

Ehrhoff is a great fit for the Sabres needs, they'll pay more for him b/c their need for a RH d-man of his ilk are greater than that of the Nucks. There are a lot of connections between him and the current roster and the difference between the Sabres and the Isles in terms of quality of organization/ownership is like night and day.

If they make him an excellent offer and pitch the team's plans properly, he'll sign for less than what you're suggesting.

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