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06-29-2011, 02:46 PM
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Doughty

Seems as though everyone is so focused on what's going on with Stamkos that nobody is really discussing the possibility of the Flyers making a play for Drew Doughty, who remains unsigned by the Kings. Do you think this is more feasible than trying to pry Stamkos from Tampa Bay?

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06-29-2011, 02:49 PM
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Seems as though everyone is so focused on what's going on with Stamkos that nobody is really discussing the possibility of the Flyers making a play for Drew Doughty, who remains unsigned by the Kings. Do you think this is more feasible than trying to pry Stamkos from Tampa Bay?
Nope. The Flyers only have the picks to make the most expensive offer sheet (over $7.8 million).

I'd prefer to avoid making Drew Doughty the highest paid defenseman in the NHL.

I know he's really good and one day he might just be the best, but he isn't right now and therefore I couldn't see offering him $7.8 million.

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True, but I feel like in terms of usefulness to our team Doughty would be a better investment than Stamkos. We already have Schenn, Briere, Giroux, and hopefully Couturier once he develops. In the mean time, we don't really have a young defenseman who can anchor our backend once Pronger and Timonen retire.

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I also don't think the Flyers would dick over the Kings. I know it's a business, but the two organizations seem to be pretty tight. Same goes for Nashville.

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Am i the only one who thinks doughty is a bit overrated?

I think he is good but would not give him anything the kings wouldnt match.

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Am i the only one who thinks doughty is a bit overrated?

I think he is good but would not give him anything the kings wouldnt match.
If I were a team with cap space to blow for a year while I build I would try to poach him with a front loaded 1 year deal.

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If I were a team with cap space to blow for a year while I build I would try to poach him with a front loaded 1 year deal.
How can you front load a one year deal?



Anyway, id be more inclined to look at hedman next year where if stamkos is signed, tampa is completely effed...

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If I were a team with cap space to blow for a year while I build I would try to poach him with a front loaded 1 year deal.
The problem is, you'd be giving up 4 1sts for 1 year of Doughty... and you'd be paying him $7.8 million.

Next year, in order to keep his RFA status, you'd need to submit a qualifying offer of $7.8 million, or else he becomes an unrestricted free agent.

It's such a ridiculously dumb situation it's not even funny. No way would I do it.

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He's not worth the 7.8M salary right now. And LA would match any other compensation but that. And the Flyers and Kings are "friendly organizations" if such a thing exists.

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If I were a team with cap space to blow for a year while I build I would try to poach him with a front loaded 1 year deal.
How exactly would one do that?

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How exactly would one do that?
1 year at 12 million and then try to re-sign him for cheaper. Of course as mentioned qualifying him would be a *****.

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I would send him the huge offer, but that's why I am no GM because I don't understand the friendly dynamic that we have had with the Kings over the year.

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I would send him the huge offer, but that's why I am no GM because I don't understand the friendly dynamic that we have had with the Kings over the year.
Stems from the relationship with Lombardi and Hextall I would presume.

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1 year at 12 million and then try to re-sign him for cheaper. Of course as mentioned qualifying him would be a *****.
I think you are missing the joke .

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How can you front load a one year deal?



Anyway, id be more inclined to look at hedman next year where if stamkos is signed, tampa is completely effed...
Hedman > Doughty

I think Hedman is better fit with our team and no way would I pay him more than $6 mill/yr presently. He could and probably get that much in a couple years, though, since he is a very talented D-man.

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He's not worth the 7.8M salary right now. And LA would match any other compensation but that. And the Flyers and Kings are "friendly organizations" if such a thing exists.
I don't know about that, Holmgren's feelings were hurt when they claimed Randy Jones on re-entry waivers.

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Hedman > Doughty

I think Hedman is better fit with our team and no way would I pay him more than $6 mill/yr presently. He could and probably get that much in a couple years, though, since he is a very talented D-man.
Hedman is absolutely not better than Drew Doughty.


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Hedman is absolutely not better than Drew Doughty.
I didn't say that he was better. I prefer Hedman over Doughty in our situation.

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If I were a team with cap space to blow for a year while I build I would try to poach him with a front loaded 1 year deal.
Most of those teams with cap space to blow for a year also happen to be teams that aren't in a position to compete in the next few years.

If you are a team in that position, you would really give up 4 1st rounders, which are likely to be top 10s, maybe even top 5s for 1 year of Drew Doughty? He could bail after that year and you're left with nothing.

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Not a chance. Besides, Dean Lombardi wanted to split Simmonds and Doughty up because they seemed to be 'partying' a lot. This would only ignite again?!

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All of this stuff about offering a 1 Year Deal at $12M is beyond ridiculous. Player signs that offer sheet and the team who now has Doughty has to give him $12 a year just as a qualifying offer. Until the player becomes a UFA, he will not be making below $12M. No agent would let their player sign a long term contract unless he's getting paid $10M+ with that type of opportunity.

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