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06-30-2011, 08:19 PM
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Varly's agent and the crazy internet conspiracy theories. Can you blame him taking a stab at trying to come up with ideas of why his client wasnt used late in the tampa series. Neuvy gave Bruce the best chance to win I know. Even if he said it was about money, who cares.

Just curious. Varly wins 4 straight in relief and just for kicks we win the next series before bowing out, what would a fair offer be for Varly, exactly Neuvy's? Unchanged? 500K more?

Bruce made a statement. I dont trust Varly to be my backup. His agent cant say that. Right? He cant bash Bruce and burn the bridge, so he uses the spinmeter 3000.

I cant help but think we end up getting a vet G to replace Varly and upgrade Sabourin. I knew when I read Varly say he wont settle for TOO much a pay cut over the KHL, he was a goner. He was out of favor with Bruce, and had so few GP to warrant more $.

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Varly's agent and the crazy internet conspiracy theories. Can you blame him taking a stab at trying to come up with ideas of why his client wasnt used late in the tampa series. Neuvy gave Bruce the best chance to win I know. Even if he said it was about money, who cares.

Just curious. Varly wins 4 straight in relief and just for kicks we win the next series before bowing out, what would a fair offer be for Varly, exactly Neuvy's? Unchanged? 500K more?

Bruce made a statement. I dont trust Varly to be my backup. His agent cant say that. Right? He cant bash Bruce and burn the bridge, so he uses the spinmeter 3000.

I cant help but think we end up getting a vet G to replace Varly and upgrade Sabourin. I knew when I read Varly say he wont settle for TOO much a pay cut over the KHL, he was a goner. He was out of favor with Bruce, and had so few GP.

The best thing for Varly and the Caps:

- Varly goes to KHL for a year

- Caps suck it again this year and Ted finally grows a spine and fires McPhee and Boudreau.

- An able GM is brought in and Varly and Holtby fight it out for #1. Neuvy is good but he's our 3rd best goalie.

- Win Cup

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Buffalo's defense is ridiculous.

Regehr-Myers
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06-30-2011, 08:30 PM
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The Hannan thing is mind blowing.

I sincerely hope McPhee's contingency plan isn't Shaone Morrisonn.

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06-30-2011, 08:31 PM
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Buffalo's defense is ridiculous.

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They'll be a tough playoff out for sure until Regehr ages a little more.

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06-30-2011, 08:32 PM
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They'll be a tough playoff out for sure until Regehr ages a little more.
And I wanted to mention that that's all in front of Miller. Goals are going to be tough to come by against the Sabres.

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06-30-2011, 08:35 PM
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Shea Weber should be added to the UFA list, as should Suter. I'd do everything possible to get that pair if I were GMGM. Makes a Green trade make a ton of sense. This top four would be sick:

Suter-Weber
Alzner-Carlson

I frankly wouldn't care who was in the third pairing. That top four would play upwards of 50 minutes every game.
Does that include Tyler Sloan?

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06-30-2011, 08:39 PM
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Really the most interesting thing with Buffalo is going to be this Richards deal. They want him badly, but if they sign him, their entire 4th line and 3rd pairing are going to be league minimum guys for the duration of his contract. They'd probably be better served filling out some depth.

No 4th line and no 3rd pairing or injury replacements is a problem for any team.

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06-30-2011, 08:41 PM
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Just an observation, when it comes to discussing some players i.e. Semin, Chimera and Fehr on these boards you'll find some that will think they're the best and the Caps need to keep them while others will think they stink and need to be traded.

Perhaps I might have missed it, but with Jeff Schultz he's like Tyler Sloan, I don't recall anyone expressing anything positive about him.

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06-30-2011, 08:46 PM
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Just an observation, when it comes to discussing some players i.e. Semin, Chimera and Fehr on these boards you'll find some that will think they're the best and the Caps need to keep them while others will think they stink and need to be traded.

Perhaps I might have missed it, but with Jeff Schultz he's like Tyler Sloan, I don't recall anyone expressing anything positive about him.
No one on the team earned their contracts last year other than possibly the goalies and Carlzner.

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Defensemen who will go to the market tomorrow:

http://capgeek.com/ufa_finder.php?po..._type=ICE_TIME

I bet Hannan will get his contract. Not with Caps. Both guys we could be interested in are righties.

So that mythic top4 tough LD isn't available from the UFA market, right?

Logic says nobody will trade such a good LD for Semin also.

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The best thing for Varly and the Caps:

- Varly goes to KHL for a year

- Caps suck it again this year and Ted finally grows a spine and fires McPhee and Boudreau.

- An able GM is brought in and Varly and Holtby fight it out for #1. Neuvy is good but he's our 3rd best goalie.

- Win Cup

Varly will not return and we will get nothing for him. Bad GMGM move.

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06-30-2011, 08:56 PM
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Really the most interesting thing with Buffalo is going to be this Richards deal. They want him badly, but if they sign him, their entire 4th line and 3rd pairing are going to be league minimum guys for the duration of his contract. They'd probably be better served filling out some depth.

No 4th line and no 3rd pairing or injury replacements is a problem for any team.
It's never actually that bad, certainly not over the long-term. They'd probably dump Leopold or Morrisonn (or both) and stash Kotalik in the minors. Problem solved. They have cheaper D capable of 4-7 roles. Pegula's got deep pockets and clearly wants to make a statement. I liked him at first but another hugely front-loaded deal I'll be rooting for that team to fail and fail hard.
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No one on the team earned their contracts last year other than possibly the goalies and Carlzner.
+ Johansson, Hendricks, Erskine, BGordon and Laich.

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06-30-2011, 08:59 PM
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If we're putting together a wish list, I'll take Joel Ward, James Wisnewski and Tomas Fleischmann for the lulz. People would freak.

I'd want Hannan back if the Caps are going to be playing a tight defensive game again, but if they're opening it up again, it might be better to look for alternatives. The same question affects Green in a big way.

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06-30-2011, 09:00 PM
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The best thing for Varly and the Caps:

- Varly goes to KHL for a year

- Caps suck it again this year and Ted finally grows a spine and fires McPhee and Boudreau.

- An able GM is brought in and Varly and Holtby fight it out for #1. Neuvy is good but he's our 3rd best goalie.

- Win Cup
By this you're suggesting our team owner grows a pair and is finally able to stand up to McPhee.

Don't see it happenin buddy

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06-30-2011, 09:01 PM
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It's never actually that bad, certainly not over the long-term. They'd probably dump Leopold or Morrisonn (or both) and stash Kotalik in the minors. Problem solved. They have cheaper D capable of 4-7 roles. Pegula's got deep pockets and clearly wants to make a statement. I liked him at first but another hugely front-loaded deal I'll be rooting for that team to fail and fail hard.
Uh, that's already figuring in them dumping ShaMo, Kotalik and Boyes. That's the only way they can sign Richards and still fill out a roster.

The cap will go up, but they've got some guys who are due raises which will cancel it out.

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Anyone want to venture a guess on Alzner's next deal? Anything pushing 3 seems high to me. He has one full season under his belt. I am guessing all the rage the front loaded 4 year deal 2.5 cap hit.

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We really expect Neuvy to win a cup next year? Neuvy! Hahaha. You win cups with goalies like Thomas, Fleury, not Neuvy..
Fluery was Neuvy til he went to the finals. Then he was a cup winner. Then he lost his focus and became....well....

Nobody was going to win a cup with Niemi til they did. Would you rather have Luongo? Would you rather have Vokoun who has less of a playoff resume than Neuvirth?

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No talks with Hannan make me really question their aggressiveness as well as the extent to which the Poti situation is resolved..
I really think you are reading Meehan's comments wrong. He is quoted as saying there were talks with McPhee. No offer does not mean no talks. It means that they had a basic difference in needs and that the agent/player wanted to see if they could get what they wanted on the ufa market.

That Meehan said that after the market opens there might be more talks suggests that.

You know that McPhee has boundries he won't go beyond. If Meehan wants something beyond those boundries, this is what happens. Right?

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Anyone want to venture a guess on Alzner's next deal? Anything pushing 3 seems high to me. He has one full season under his belt. I am guessing all the rage the front loaded 4 year deal 2.5 cap hit.
The trick is to keep him a RFA at the end of said contract, not sure how many years that requires.

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Uh, that's already figuring in them dumping ShaMo, Kotalik and Boyes. That's the only way they can sign Richards and still fill out a roster.

The cap will go up, but they've got some guys who are due raises which will cancel it out.
Yeah, it's risky. Leopold instead of Boyes might work, depending on where their RFAs come in at and how much of a savings they can get by heavily front-loading. They do have some good talent coming through their system, though. That'll help.
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You know that McPhee has boundries he won't go beyond. If Meehan wants something beyond those boundries, this is what happens. Right?
What's becoming increasingly clear is that McPhee & Fishman are largely lacking in the wherewithal to secure players below market value.


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Varly will not return and we will get nothing for him. Bad GMGM move.
caps still hold varly's rights. wouldnt you rather have those than a 3rd round pick?

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The trick is to keep him a RFA at the end of said contract, not sure how many years that requires.
thats right, thanks. I believe Green got a 5 year on his last, maybe Alzner will be 5 too.

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The trick is to keep him a RFA at the end of said contract, not sure how many years that requires.
Why? I see a player like Alzner and I see zero risk. I'd have no problem giving him a 5-10 year deal.

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What's becoming increasingly clear is that McPhee & Fishman are largely lacking in the wherewithal to secure players below market value.
maybe so. question remains. if hannan wants 4 years and not a year less, do you sign it or do you look elsewhere or wait for him to come back after 4 years isnt available on the ufa market?

thats all i see going on there.

If Hannan signs elsewhere a 2 year deal, then i will feel differently. If he signs a stupid contract elsewhere, I will say good riddence.

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