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07-01-2011, 03:47 PM
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Like the player, dislike his age. Not a fan of multi-year deals for guys on the wrong side of 35.

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This is ok, we seem to have a lot of average d now. What do we have 8 NHL defensman signed now. Even if Poti is done not sure about this one unless a deal is coming.

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All situation LD was exactly what I wanted. I cannot STAND Ovi playing defense when we need a goal.

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Poti replacement. Man, only if Poti didn't destroy himself. Would have been cheaper and better.

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if they don't give him a serious look partnered with green, it's a ****ing crime and a waste of money.

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07-01-2011, 04:04 PM
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if they don't give him a serious look partnered with green, it's a ****ing crime and a waste of money.
Exactly what I was thinking. We've seen the Sarge-Green show for a long time now. We know how it goes. I hope they give Hamrlik-Green more than just a game or two together.

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To those who think Hannan won't get more than that... why? I think Hannan is holding out for $4M/yr and term. I don't think that's unreasonable, especially if he'll go to a team looking for talent and free agency legitimacy.

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07-01-2011, 04:08 PM
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To those who think Hannan won't get more than that... why? I think Hannan is holding out for $4M/yr and term. I don't think that's unreasonable, especially if he'll go to a team looking for talent and free agency legitimacy.
Exactly. When Jonathan Ericsson gets 3.75 per to stay in Detroit, you can't pretend that Hannan isn't potentially going to get paid.

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07-01-2011, 04:13 PM
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The big deal, to me, is term. The Caps get a free agent veteran to ink for just two years here. Hannan? At least three, quite possibly four would be needed. GMGM needs flexibility for when he needs to adjust the money he spends on the corps when the Alzner and Carlson contracts grow.

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07-01-2011, 04:18 PM
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To those who think Hannan won't get more than that... why? I think Hannan is holding out for $4M/yr and term. I don't think that's unreasonable, especially if he'll go to a team looking for talent and free agency legitimacy.
Yeah the whole Hannan will resign for $3 mil or less thing that has been around since the Caps traded for him never made sense. The money being tossed around today in this league is friggin' insane and Hannan is going to get paid also.

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mixed feelings on the Hamrlik signing...

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07-01-2011, 05:59 PM
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McPhee's logic behind replacing Hannan, arguably their best D in the playoffs, with Hamrlik is that their injuries to puck-movers is what killed them.

So now they have 1 legit stay at home D with Alzner. 2 if you count Schultz or Erskine.


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07-01-2011, 06:02 PM
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It's not as if Carlson fails as a shutdown Dman though. Depends on where you rank Hamrlik vs. Hannan in terms of shutdown ability I guess. They've both been monsters vs. Ovie at times.

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07-01-2011, 06:02 PM
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George said it himself, they just want to make the playoffs every year and one day land the cup. He is chasing last years problem perhaps instead of staying the course, seemingly his own agenda. But I said that we needed to move a puck mover from right to left.

Keep the same dynamic of our pairings, offensive guy with defensive. He sees puck movers as key. I think its maybe more durability and skating than he does.

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George said it himself, they just want to make the playoffs every year and one day land the cup. He is chasing last years cop-outs perhaps instead of addressing obvious structural flaws, seemingly his own agenda. But I said that we needed to move a puck mover from right to left.

Keep the same dynamic of our pairings, offensive guy with defensive. He sees puck movers as key. I think its maybe more durability and skating than he does.
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McPhee's logic behind replacing Hannan, arguably their best D in the playoffs, with Hamrlik is that their injuries to puck-movers is what killed them.

So now they have 1 legit stay at home D with Alzner. 2 if you count Schultz or Erskine.

I don't think I could go so far as to say it's why they lost, but the injuries to Wideman and Green were glaringly obvious problems, much more so than I would've expected.

As I mentioned when we traded for Hannan and when we traded for Wideman, if you're going to be paying a guy that much to be a bottom-pairing guy, you need him to move the puck, even more so on this squad.

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Like it!

Consequence of having the inside track/info on Widemon?

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Am I the only one that thinks this is simply Hannan's replacement? I'm cool with this.
looking at the contract, it looks like poti's replacement. i like the other moves. this one...not so much

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07-01-2011, 06:49 PM
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I don't think I could go so far as to say it's why they lost, but the injuries to Wideman and Green were glaringly obvious problems, much more so than I would've expected.

As I mentioned when we traded for Hannan and when we traded for Wideman, if you're going to be paying a guy that much to be a bottom-pairing guy, you need him to move the puck, even more so on this squad.
wideman didnt play at all. green was hurt in game1 series 2. carlson was hurt in game 2 series 2.

without any of the three healthy, yea thats a problem. dont you think?

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07-01-2011, 06:50 PM
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I don't think I could go so far as to say it's why they lost, but the injuries to Wideman and Green were glaringly obvious problems, much more so than I would've expected.

As I mentioned when we traded for Hannan and when we traded for Wideman, if you're going to be paying a guy that much to be a bottom-pairing guy, you need him to move the puck, even more so on this squad.
Real quick here:

The term "puck moving defenseman"

The reality: ALL D-man should be able to move the puck.

Truth: the term is a dodge; a puck mover translates to: SLOW

Anywhoo: good day so far!

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The big deal, to me, is term. The Caps get a free agent veteran to ink for just two years here. Hannan? At least three, quite possibly four would be needed. GMGM needs flexibility for when he needs to adjust the money he spends on the corps when the Alzner and Carlson contracts grow.
Agree the term is important.

One thing I didn't realize earlier, I sust looked up Hamrlik's birthdate on hockeydb: Apr 12 1974..

so that 2 year contract is a 35+ contract with the Caps; for many reasons I'm glad this is only 2 years.

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This is just awful....not the kind of dman we need...akkkkk

I'm probably the only one here who recognizes satire.

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As long as you dont try to make him play top 2 minutes he should be good for you. Not overly physical but hes pretty solid defensively, can put up some points, doesnt complain, hes a soldier and Ill miss him. Oh, and hes really good mentoring the young guys. Good luck Hammer.

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McPhee's logic behind replacing Hannan, arguably their best D in the playoffs, with Hamrlik is that their injuries to puck-movers is what killed them.

So now they have 1 legit stay at home D with Alzner. 2 if you count Schultz or Erskine.

Hannan was arguably our best D in the playoffs? What?

I was largely a supporter of Hannan, but he looked slow against Tampa and was getting beaten regularly. He gave up 8 goals in 9 games, five of those were even-strength.

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Just out of curiosity, I expect Hamrlik will play with Wideman or Green from what I'm reading. Do you guys run all 3 lines pretty equally, meaning Hammer will probably play about 20 mins/night?

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