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07-01-2011, 03:54 PM
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Another year, another July 1st where some posters set the roster in stone. Seriously, can some of you give the reigning exec of the year the full summer? **** me.

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Because he's been quite accurate lately.
Its really hard to take anything he says or does seriously when about the only thing he broke for almost a year or more was us signing that old american d man a few years ago....I can't for the life of me remember his name.

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Yeah, people need to calm down. Gillis knows we need a top 6er.

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how about Gagne? he may be better
He may get 5 yrs and 30 Million dollars based on the way things are going.

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Pretty meh on the signing. Low risk I guess but I would much rather have him than Leino or Cole at the ridiculous contracts they got.

Edit: and Fleishman... wow

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this is probably insurance....Maybe another signing at the end of the day

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Yeah, people need to calm down. Gillis knows we need a top 6er.
He better. I'm having a bad Dave Nonis flashback.

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07-01-2011, 03:59 PM
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Did I just hear 4.5 million for Fleischmann? Holy crap....

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No one will complain when we have a Higgins - Manny - Sturm 3rd line and Lapierre and Hansen and Samuelsson on the 4th. Depth is a good thing.

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People weren't pissed about Malhotra, they were pissed at how much he got and the NTC.

With this signing, I don't see a ton of upside, and it wastes 2.25M that we could have spent elsewhere. What I will say about Sturm is that he's a guy that has infectious enthusiasm for the game. The Rally hats worked great in Boston.
On Malhotra, isn't it still true that in retrospect that was a good deal for MG, if the alternative was to have him sign elsewhere? It's always easy to say he should have signed him for less, but that only works in fantasy.

As for Sturm, I'm going to keep an open mind. I like the signing fine for value -- if he can bring 18-25 goals from the 2nd/3rd line, help Vancouver continue to be a fast, puck possession team, and stay relatively healthy, 2.25 for one year is fine. The problem is that value is not the only question -- I think it's fairly obvious that what we need is a good set of 2nd line wingers for Kesler. If you assume that our top-3 centers are Henrik, Kesler, Malhotra, then here's what we have on the wing:

Daniel, Burrows, Samuelsson, Raymond, Higgins, Sturm, Hansen, with MR21 out for the start of the season, that's a decent collection of 6 wingers to fill out the top-9, but after Daniel and Burrows on the first, it would have been nice to upgrade that second line. It seems to me that we have a lot of B+ options. The upside is that they're very versatile, and most of the "middle 6" wingers could fill in on any line.

What's disappointing is the lack of an upgrade on the 2nd line. Having said that, the question is, what are the options? Leino at 27M isn't exactly a great choice. Gagne might be nice, but would probably want $$ and term, which is a big risk. Fleischmann has a lot of ???'s around him too. So is it just wishful thinking? Or would we have been better off keeping Torres at Phoenix money (3.5 for 2 years) and traded speed/finish for sandpaper? Still an open question for me. Especially since it's not clear to me that Gillis is done.

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07-01-2011, 04:07 PM
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I'm gonna lol at everyone freaking out once gillis signs or trades for a legit top 6 forward, and all the depth (including the sturm signing) will look sick.

If this team can add another legit top 6 forward... that is sick sick depth....

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I giant "meh" at this signing. I think the Canucks have a few trades to swing though.

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07-01-2011, 04:09 PM
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No one will complain when we have a Higgins - Manny - Sturm 3rd line and Lapierre and Hansen and Samuelsson on the 4th. Depth is a good thing.
Except thats a lot of money tied up in a 4th line. It would be nice to have Oreskovich in there and his cheap contract and maybe someone else on a smaller contract. I get the feeling we're shopping Hansen in a package. Then things might make a bit more sense but I'm not sure right now. I like Sturm but I'm not sure about him if he's expected to be a 2nd liner, and I'm still not sure if he's supposed to push Higgins/Raymond/Samuelsson up to be full time 2nd liners. If we can still wrangle a legit 2nd liner I'll be less worried about it. I'm just not sure I'll be happy if we lose Hansen.

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No one will complain when we have a Higgins - Manny - Sturm 3rd line and Lapierre and Hansen and Samuelsson on the 4th. Depth is a good thing.
I agree, but right now we don't have that because we have no 2nd line winger to play with kes.

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Not much Cap room is left to land a top 6 guy. You'd have to think they'd move salary if the do indeed plan on making a trade.

If the Rangers sign Richards, they're most likely shipping off Dubinsky. Could be a good fit.

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I dunno, I've thought about it a bit more, I was a bit harsh saying it's a terrible deal. I've never really liked Sturm as a player, so I probably was a bit biased. To me, after his last few seasons, he seemed like the kind of guy you give a tryout too, but obviously there must have been a market for him. And with the rising cap 2.25 isn't really that much anymore, so that's one thing to keep in mind.

If he can get some of his form back he will be a steal; if he does nothing then he will be waived - no big deal really, I suppose. He has a chance to play with some really good players here so maybe he can find his scoring touch again.

Injuries worry me, but not much you can do about that.

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07-01-2011, 04:13 PM
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No one will complain when we have a Higgins - Manny - Sturm 3rd line and Lapierre and Hansen and Samuelsson on the 4th. Depth is a good thing.
Hodgson-Kesler-Oreskovich (Not written in stone of course!) writing on stone is time consuming and makes your hands sore.

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07-01-2011, 04:14 PM
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Sturm signing is depth/insurance. Not related to top six roster hole. Will likely be addressed via trade. #Canucks

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No one will complain when we have a Higgins - Manny - Sturm 3rd line and Lapierre and Hansen and Samuelsson on the 4th. Depth is a good thing.
Once Raymond is back, we could see something like this as our forward lines:

1: Burrows-Sedin-Sedin
2: Sturm-Kesler-Raymond
3: Higgins-Manny-Hansen
4: Volpatti-Lappy-Sammy
Hodgson

Sturm, Ramond, Higgins, and Sammy could all take turns on the second line depending on injuries and who's hot.

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While I'm confident that something will get sorted out for that 2nd line by September, I really have no clue what the f we're doing.

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I'm trying to be optimistic about this but...damn, this is disappointing. Please have Parise hit UFA

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I agree, but right now we don't have that because we have no 2nd line winger to play with kes.
...It's 2:15 on July 1...

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IF he's healthy it's actually not bad value. His career numbers are similar to Samuelsson.

But that's an 'if' that the Canucks take way too much.

I am hoping this means a trade is coming.

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If Sturm does not make the team, he can still be cut and not be counted against the cap and can still find a player via trades and the Canucks can get over 10% past the cap and must be compliant by the first game so plenty of time to find a player. This must be a back-up plan if Gillis can't find a 2nd line player via trades.

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So... just what do we have in Marco Sturm?

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