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07-02-2011, 12:22 AM
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I don't see a need for one year of Clarke Macarthur. That is fat we don't need.

Most arbitration settlements are one year I assume.

Also, you can't assume Kadri will be ready for that role.
There's situations where it could possibly be a two year arbitrated decision, but this'd be a one year for Mac.

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I don't see a need for one year of Clarke Macarthur. That is fat we don't need.

Most arbitration settlements are one year I assume.

Also, you can't assume Kadri will be ready for that role.
MacArthur is not the difference between a good and bad Leafs team. Really, even if we get Richards, the play-offs aren't a lock.

Why not give Kadri ice time to develop?

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07-02-2011, 12:45 AM
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MacArthur is not the difference between a good and bad Leafs team. Really, even if we get Richards, the play-offs aren't a lock.

Why not give Kadri ice time to develop?
Precisely. And on a 1-year contract, we run the risk of him jettisoning out of town when he is an actual UFA. So what legacy did he leave us then?

Someone else I think would replace Macarthur in that role. I would prefer an internal promotion and subsequent split up of Grabovski and Kulemin.

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07-02-2011, 12:55 AM
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Precisely. And on a 1-year contract, we run the risk of him jettisoning out of town when he is an actual UFA. So what legacy did he leave us then?

Someone else I think would replace Macarthur in that role. I would prefer an internal promotion and subsequent split up of Grabovski and Kulemin.
Has to be Kadri hypothetically doesn't it? Who else you looking at?

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07-02-2011, 01:11 AM
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Has to be Kadri hypothetically doesn't it? Who else you looking at?
I want to see another pro training camp before I make any hasty conclusions about his upside. A player like him can show you struggles but once in a while, truly impress you. I need to see some frequency and a training camp will hopefully show us that. I'm not >50% sure he is ready.

Armstrong should be strongly considered.

The alternative to this situation is going out and getting a Connelly or Zherdev, but after Richards is off the table. Connelly, you could get for some term and in the $5 million dollar range which is marginally higher than what Macarthur will command. The higher price is ultimately worth it should we get the guy here as a long-term center.

Still not my cup of tea though but it might be management's. The draft sounds better.


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I want to see another pro training camp before I make any hasty conclusions about his upside. A player like him can show you struggles but once in a while, truly impress you. I need to see some frequency and a training camp will hopefully show us that. I'm not <50% sure he is ready.

Armstrong should be strongly considered.

The alternative to this situation is going out and getting a Connelly or Zherdev, but after Richards is off the table. Connelly, you could get for some term and in the $5 million dollar range which is marginally higher than what Macarthur will command. The higher price is ultimately worth it should we get the guy here as a long-term center.

Still not my cup of tea though but it might be management's. The draft sounds better.
Army to Mac's spot, and what, Frattin with Kadri and Bozac on the third? I'm not sold that Kadri is ready for the 2nd yet either, but I think you take that chance if Army to the second is your next best option.

You lost me on the Con/Zherd part though, what's the shuffle look like to replace Mac with one of them in the fold, presumably they're the 1C spot?

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07-02-2011, 02:44 AM
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6m per year ... going from todays contracts.

Also...

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I'm afraid this will happen. Burke will fail to land Richards, will turn the Mac and offer him 60 million over 10 years. Then Mac will flop.

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yeah but that's not reasonable at all

why should he make more than Kulemin?
Huh, why would he make less than Komisarek, Finger and Armstrong. Granted they were all UFAs when they signed, but are not as important to the Leafs as Mac.

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2 is wrong, but 1 is right. You can't tender an offer sheet to a player who has filed for arbitration.
Which is exactly what I wrote, using different words...

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Huh, why would he make less than Komisarek, Finger and Armstrong. Granted they were all UFAs when they signed, but are not as important to the Leafs as Mac.
Armstrong is definately more valuable than MacArthur.

Komisarek hasn't been good, but hopefully he cn turn it around. If he can regain his game, he'll be more valuable than MacArthur too.

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