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07-02-2011, 10:27 PM
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When would next possible lockout start?

Just wondering if anyone knew or can recall the exact date the last lockout took affect? The reason I ask is I was wondering if its after the July 1 date for free agency. If so I can see alot of front loaded deals for players like Semin and Parise that would give them huge signing bonuses even if there wasn't a season.

If the lockout didn't take place until camps were scheduled to open many players may also get offer sheets if the old rules apply. The only down side would be if there was a hard cap but I can't see that happening as the owners were offered one last time and turned it down

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Just wondering if anyone knew or can recall the exact date the last lockout took affect? The reason I ask is I was wondering if its after the July 1 date for free agency. If so I can see alot of front loaded deals for players like Semin and Parise that would give them huge signing bonuses even if there wasn't a season.

If the lockout didn't take place until camps were scheduled to open many players may also get offer sheets if the old rules apply. The only down side would be if there was a hard cap but I can't see that happening as the owners were offered one last time and turned it down
Don't quote me on this, as I am not altogether sure, but if I remember correctly it expires in September. In this case I believe it is September '13. I actually thought it was after next season, but it appears with all the new contracts the break in salary is for season '13-'14. So there are 2 years/seasons left in this current CBA.

I am sure there is someone who knows all about this, in case i was wrong.

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The current CBA is set to expire on September 15, 2012.

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If theres another lockout, Bettman will be beheaded.

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There's nothing even remotely as contentious as the salary cap was when the last CBA was negotiated. I wouldn't worry about a lockout.

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There's nothing even remotely as contentious as the salary cap was when the last CBA was negotiated. I wouldn't worry about a lockout.
This. I'd be more concerned with an NBA lockout. Their season runs at the same time as ours. If they lose a year, more people would be turned on to hockey which would be great for the sport overall. Despite most people saying that they probably wouldn't want NBA fans to become NHL fans, it would be huge for our sport. Hell, maybe even ESPN would talk about us without talking about Ovie or Crosby...but I doubt it. They'd probably show highlights of Lebron grocery shopping before a Kings highlight

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There's nothing even remotely as contentious as the salary cap was when the last CBA was negotiated. I wouldn't worry about a lockout.
Unless Fehr makes it a priority of the NHLPA to remove the hard salary cap. I think that's bad business, personally. Both the NHL & players are benefiting from the current system. But I wouldn't put anything past Fehr.

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There could be a few issues that trigger a lockout.

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The gap between the cap floor and the cap max will be an issue, as will revenue sharing amongst the teams.

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ARTICLE 3
DURATION OF AGREEMENT
3.1 Term.
(a) This Agreement is effective retroactive to September 16, 2004 (the
“Effective Date”), and shall remain in full force and effect until midnight New York time
on September 15, 2011, and shall remain in effect from year to year thereafter unless and
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2009 by delivery of written notice of termination to the NHL at least 120 days prior to
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September 15, 2012 by delivery of written notice to the NHL of such election to extend at
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Both the NHL & players are benefiting from the current system. But I wouldn't put anything past Fehr.
Precisely why I'm not worried. The most contentious items are likely to be super-long contracts with bogus years at the end (which most of the player membership don't benefit from and they've already partially remedied) and escrow, which will be a contentious issue but is minor in comparison to moving from no cap to a hard salary cap.

I think both players and owners realize this time around as well how damaging any sort of work stoppage would be, and given revenues have gone up every single year since the new CBA was put into effect, they'll all be anxious to get this over with in a hurry.

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