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07-02-2011, 09:40 PM
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Hall for Staal
Negatory.

Love Hall. Can't afford to move Staal though.

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Semin for Richards

Semin's cap hit is higher so obviously he's better.


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It's gonna be ZP .... Eventually

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07-02-2011, 10:14 PM
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If any of Anisimov, Erixon or Del Zotto are traded, it would be for a top player. (Though I'd love to see Erixon on the Oilers just for the lulz to Calgary)
I would love to see Erixon rot in Edmonton.

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07-02-2011, 10:24 PM
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Negatory.

Love Hall. Can't afford to move Staal though.
If I was the Rangers GM and got that offer I would hang my self. But at the end of the day I would do that, Hall can be a generational players, but the Rangers have ton of defense that can better if not, like staal.

Hall-Richards-Gaborik
Callahan-Stepan-Dubinsky
Fedotenko-AA-Thomas/Hagelin
Avery/Rupp-Boyle-Prust

Girardi-McD
Erixon-Sauer
MDZ-Eminger?

****!! I drooled all over my computer and it broke .

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07-02-2011, 10:39 PM
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Negatory.

Love Hall. Can't afford to move Staal though.

Id rather have MPS over anisimov, but i can see where i messed up...but not taking this trade is......This is a huge rip of for edmonton Hall for staal ahah we could could get Doughty, Hedman , Weber for hall, staal would be terrible

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07-02-2011, 10:43 PM
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Not that I think the Rangers could get him but... anyone whose not a Rangers fan/has a better idea than me know about where Bourque's value is?

I'd almost be willing to do something like Del Zotto + Kreider for Bourque + Butler, because I think we'd genuinely be a very good team this year or next year.

Bourque - Richards - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Anisimov - Callahan
Wolski - Stepan - Zuccarello/Thomas
Prust - Boyle - Fedetenko/Rupp
Staal - Girardi
McDonagh - Sauer
Erixon - Butler/Eminger

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07-02-2011, 10:54 PM
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Not that I think the Rangers could get him but... anyone whose not a Rangers fan/has a better idea than me know about where Bourque's value is?

I'd almost be willing to do something like Del Zotto + Kreider for Bourque + Butler, because I think we'd genuinely be a very good team this year or next year.

Bourque - Richards - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Anisimov - Callahan
Wolski - Stepan - Zuccarello/Thomas
Prust - Boyle - Fedetenko/Rupp
Staal - Girardi
McDonagh - Sauer
Erixon - Butler/Eminger
No way. I'd rather keep our best forward prospect and best puck moving prospect unless its for anything short of an elite player.

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No way. I'd rather keep our best forward prospect and best puck moving prospect unless its for anything short of an elite player.
Eh, we just signed an elite player who is 31. Our elite goalie is 29. Our elite sniper is 29 and unless he has a big bounce back season, who knows how much longer we'll be able to call him elite? Prospects are just that... prospective talent; they may or may not ever live up to their potential and our expectations. Meanwhile, a guy like Bourque could fit like a glove, give us 25-30 goals and 55+ points and make us a pretty dangerous team NOW. I don't know... I obviously realize the potential in Kreider... he'd be a perfect LW for the spot in question... just not for at least two years and sometimes you have to make moves and take a shot when the window is open. I'm not saying the window is closing... but I don't think it's extremely big either. I can be patient; I just think we will eventually need to make some hard decisions within 3-4 years.


Kreider + Del Zotto is an over exaggeration, but I would be willing to pony up a fair price. Also, players who haven't proven anything in the NHL rarely are going to land you an elite player. I mean, Kreider was 19th overall in 2009... Filatov was 6th overall in 2008. They're 11 months apart. Now, I know there was extreme circumstances regarding Filatov's attitude, etc. but he brought back a third round pick. Kreider's not going to bring back an all-star unless he's part of a package that has lots of other attractive parts.


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Just curious from Rangers fans but if David Booth was offered, would you consider a deal involving Anisimov? Florida now has a glut of wingers and really needs an upgrade at the 2nd line center spot over Santorelli. Booth just seems like the exact type of player you'd be looking for and Anisimov seems like the perfect fit for FL. He was healthy last yr after the concussion season and scored over 20 g but I expect him in a Rangers lineup to be able to put up closer to 30 g again. Maybe even expanding the deal further and dumping Wolski while getting someone else like Matthias. Thoughts?

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07-03-2011, 08:59 AM
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Just curious from Rangers fans but if David Booth was offered, would you consider a deal involving Anisimov? Florida now has a glut of wingers and really needs an upgrade at the 2nd line center spot over Santorelli. Booth just seems like the exact type of player you'd be looking for and Anisimov seems like the perfect fit for FL. He was healthy last yr after the concussion season and scored over 20 g but I expect him in a Rangers lineup to be able to put up closer to 30 g again. Maybe even expanding the deal further and dumping Wolski while getting someone else like Matthias. Thoughts?
Given Booth's injury history and contract length, I definitely would not trade Anisimov for him. Just too big a risk, imo.

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07-03-2011, 09:03 AM
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Id rather have MPS over anisimov, but i can see where i messed up...but not taking this trade is......This is a huge rip of for edmonton Hall for staal ahah we could could get Doughty, Hedman , Weber for hall, staal would be terrible
You could not get Doughty or Weber for Taylor Hall.

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Just curious from Rangers fans but if David Booth was offered, would you consider a deal involving Anisimov? Florida now has a glut of wingers and really needs an upgrade at the 2nd line center spot over Santorelli. Booth just seems like the exact type of player you'd be looking for and Anisimov seems like the perfect fit for FL. He was healthy last yr after the concussion season and scored over 20 g but I expect him in a Rangers lineup to be able to put up closer to 30 g again. Maybe even expanding the deal further and dumping Wolski while getting someone else like Matthias. Thoughts?
Many of us might. I would not.

It's been made public that Anisimov has been requested in numerous deals : in fact, he was the holdup on Richards at the deadline. Sather has absolutely refused to trade him.

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07-03-2011, 09:06 AM
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Why is it that you think you can get a top 6 winger from a team without giving up a forward of equal skill and/or a half decent defenseman?

With the people you have listed as off limits, you're not getting a top 6 winger.
I have a hard time believing a package including any of the next two years first round picks, Christian Thomas, kreider, hagelin, erixon couldn't get a top 6 Lw.

Good point tho

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07-03-2011, 09:16 AM
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Why is it that you think you can get a top 6 winger from a team without giving up a forward of equal skill and/or a half decent defenseman?

With the people you have listed as off limits, you're not getting a top 6 winger.
Ummm, what? Girardi has been playing top pair minutes for the Rangers, logging close to 24 minutes a night. On other teams he's easily a top 4 d-man sign to an excellent contract. Then there is Del Zotto, who had a sophmore slump but is a very good PMD and proved so his rookie season.

I also said two of the Rangers top prospects would be available for the right price in Kreider and/or McIlrath. Not to mention a first round pick in a very deep 2012 draft.

There is def. some quality there.

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Rangers have forwards...they need DEFENSE. Their current lot is atrocious.
haha what? are you serious or just trolling?

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07-03-2011, 11:13 AM
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i'm willing to give someone who is already in the organization a shot first. i've said this before, i believe the stock of the likes of mcd/sauer/erixon/mdz will only go up as the season moves on. so whatever is needed to improve our team will be a lot easier to obtain right around the trade deadline time.

girardi is the only one right now can really fetch us some respectable talent, and i'm not sure if i'm willing to trade him right now without these kids on our d proving themselves again next season. if they do then we're ready to trade for that very good/elite player we might need, if everything is going great than we can stick with what we got.

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haha what? are you serious or just trolling?
I think because the Rangers were only in the top 5 or so in least goals against he thinks there is room for improvement. lol

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I have a hard time believing a package including any of the next two years first round picks, Christian Thomas, kreider, hagelin, erixon couldn't get a top 6 Lw.

Good point tho
so you feel that Thomas, Kreider, Hagelin are not forwards that will be top 6? So you trade one of them plus 2 #1s for a top 6 player? Quite the overpayment for a player that at least one of them is bound to pan out as anyway. So why make such a trade? It makes zero sense.

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What world have you been living in? Or are you just one of those fans that complains about everything?
No, but props to jumping there since I don't agree with you. I'm just well aware that if you look at the d-core of the past several Stanley Cup champions than you'll realize that the Rangers' D doesn't come close.

Whatever. Get pissed off and sing the praises of Marc Staal, but that's not going to cut it. There's a reason they dealt for McCabe at the deadline...

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Staal - Girardi
McDonagh - Sauer
Erixon - Del Zotto

McIlrath
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Hmm... I don't think so Lazy Geno
So you're going to win the Stanley Cup on the back of some unproven rookies with no NHL experience? Not to mention how awesome Del Zotto was last year. Good luck...


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So you're going to win the Stanley Cup on the back of some unproven rookies with no NHL experience? Not to mention how awesome Del Zotta was last year. Good luck...
We all know how much of an effect one defensiveman on the third pairing has in contending for the Stanley Cup. GOOD CALL.

Oh, and Brad Marchand says hi.

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We all know how much of an effect one defensiveman on the third pairing has in contending for the Stanley Cup. GOOD CALL.

Oh, and Brad Marchand says hi.
Yeah. Because he won the Stanley Cup single-handedly. Why even put anybody elses name on the cup?

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How does this address our concerns? I'd rather have Boyle play on a top 6 LW and create some space for the other 2 players.

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