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07-04-2011, 01:53 PM
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Rangers Sign Brad Richards Part 2

Continued from: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=941209

9 Years; $6.67M AAV.

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Love how some of us think Thomas is a 1st liner and others think he'll never sniff the NHL. Hopefully the reality is somewhere in the middle. I know I'd be thrilled if he could become a fixture on the 2nd line in a couple years and pot 30 goals.

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Love how some of us think Thomas is a 1st liner and others think he'll never sniff the NHL. Hopefully the reality is somewhere in the middle. I know I'd be thrilled if he could become a fixture on the 2nd line in a couple years and pot 30 goals.
Don't like his height structure, he'll get destroyed playing with men.

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Love how some of us think Thomas is a 1st liner and others think he'll never sniff the NHL. Hopefully the reality is somewhere in the middle. I know I'd be thrilled if he could become a fixture on the 2nd line in a couple years and pot 30 goals.
It is the nature of our fanbase. One "camp" think that our prospects are going to be superstars, while the other "camp" think they will be career AHLers. In the middle there are some who think that they are going to be in between, a good third liner or a solid second liner, and they get **** on by the other 2 "camps". It is just the nature of us Ranger fans it seems.

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Don't like his height structure, he'll get destroyed playing with men.
So you must not like Zucca then? What about St.Louis and his 90 points a year? Theo Fleury sure did get destroyed while playing against as you call them, real men

I am not saying he is going to be a superstar, but he is good enough to grow in to a second line role.

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So you must not like Zucca then? What about St.Louis and his 90 points a year? Theo Fleury sure did get destroyed while playing against as you call them, real men

I am not saying he is going to be a superstar, but he is good enough to grow in to a second line role.
Actually am not a fan of Zucca. St. Louis and Fleury are HOF caliber players, tough to compare.

We'll see what Thomas does in the AHL, but 165 pounds yikes

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"Well Gabby is a great play maker himself which is often overlooked because he is a great sniper...

Dubinsky is the perfect and i mean PERFECT player to play on that line. He would be the energy and forechecker and player that goes to the net all the time while Gabby and Richards play with the other teams defense and get good shots on net while Dubinsky bangs in rebound and causes havok in front.

There is no way a player like Wolski would be a good fit on a line with them."


Terrible fit.

Wolski-Richards-Gaborik

Too much of a finesse line.

And Wolski disappears too much. I want someone who consistently shows up.

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Don't like his height structure, he'll get destroyed playing with men.
That's why I said in a couple of years. He's about 5'9" 166 now...if he could grow an inch and put on 10 pounds he could play at 5'10" 176. Not big by any means...but with his speed and quickness I don't know that he'd get destroyed.

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So you must not like Zucca then? What about St.Louis and his 90 points a year? Theo Fleury sure did get destroyed while playing against as you call them, real men

I am not saying he is going to be a superstar, but he is good enough to grow in to a second line role.
Except most short players don't have that great of a career. Guys like the ones you mentioned are the few players who did. It's not like Zuccarello owned the league or made it seem like he has crazy potential. I do hope they both have great careers, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

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Actually am not a fan of Zucca. St. Louis and Fleury are HOF caliber players, tough to compare.

We'll see what Thomas does in the AHL, but 165 pounds yikes
I agree on his weight, but there is plenty of time for him to put on 10-15 pounds and grow an inch or 2. I can see him being a good second liner in the NHL, but if he becomes a first liner I aint gunna complain

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Dubinsky was once smallish too.

He grew a couple of inches and added muscle.

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Except most short players don't have that great of a career. Guys like the ones you mentioned are the few players who did. It's not like Zuccarello owned the league or made it seem like he has crazy potential. I do hope they both have great careers, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
I brought Zucca up because he is one of our prospects. All I am saying is why dont we wait until the kid starts his career before we start calling him a career AHLer

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So we're discounting Thomas just because he's a couple inches too short?

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I brought Zucca up because he is one of our prospects. All I am saying is why dont we wait until the kid starts his career before we start calling him a career AHLer
Oh, I didn't know that's what the argument was about.

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Is this the Brad Richards thread or the Christian Thomas thread?

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Dubinsky is the perfect and i mean PERFECT player to play on that line. He would be the energy and forechecker and player that goes to the net all the time while Gabby and Richards play with the other teams defense and get good shots on net while Dubinsky bangs in rebound and causes havok in front.

There is no way a player like Wolski would be a good fit on a line with them.

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Dubinsky is the perfect and i mean PERFECT player to play on that line. He would be the energy and forechecker and player that goes to the net all the time while Gabby and Richards play with the other teams defense and get good shots on net while Dubinsky bangs in rebound and causes havok in front.

There is no way a player like Wolski would be a good fit on a line with them.
I agree. Dubinsky's so good at using his body to protect and keep the puck. He's great on the boards. I'm hoping that 1st line LW slot is his to lose because I could easily see him having at least a 65 point season if he and Gaborik and Richards stay healthy.

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So we're discounting Thomas just because he's a couple inches too short?
Funny because he's listed as 5'9 .5. and probably still growing.

I mean Sydney Crosby is only 5'11 & 200. Not exactly huge.

And I'm not trying to compare his game to Crosby.

Just saying arguably the best player in hockey isn't a big dude.

You don't have to be big to play this game.

Have speed and skill. That's what Thomas has.

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Actually am not a fan of Zucca. St. Louis and Fleury are HOF caliber players, tough to compare.

We'll see what Thomas does in the AHL, but 165 pounds yikes
Claude Giroux plays at 172 lbs.
Tyler Ennis scored 20 goals and 49 points his rookie season and he plays at 164 lbs. He's also 5'9... Thomas says he's now 5'9 and 1/2.

Feel better about it?

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The only reason I don't want to see Dubi up with Gabs and Richards, is I'd hate breaking up the pack line. But it can't be w2. Imagine the back checking with him and Gabs on the same line. I'd rather bring back Prospal for one more year or give Aves a shot.

Can't tell you how much I love the BR signing. No matter who takes the last spot with him and Gaborik, they will pick up big numbers.

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The only reason I don't want to see Dubi up with Gabs and Richards, is I'd hate breaking up the pack line. But it can't be w2. Imagine the back checking with him and Gabs on the same line. I'd rather bring back Prospal for one more year or give Aves a shot.

Can't tell you how much I love the BR signing. No matter who takes the last spot with him and Gaborik, they will pick up big numbers.
I don't like the idea of breaking up that line either, but I am more concerned with putting the best player with our top 2 guys to help them produce.

I'd put Zuccs on the 2nd line with AA and Cally. Especially if Zucc's skating improves (like he is working on all offseason), he could easily make the 2nd line still very effective.

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Claude Giroux plays at 172 lbs.
Tyler Ennis scored 20 goals and 49 points his rookie season and he plays at 164 lbs. He's also 5'9... Thomas says he's now 5'9 and 1/2.

Feel better about it?
It's all about how strong you are on your feet/skates. If Thomas can stay strong on his feet he won't get knocked around as much as other small guys would.

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I see there are people who aren't happy about the Richards signing

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I see there are people who aren't happy about the Richards signing
There will always be people who are unhappy with something. lol I don't think too many people are unhappy about having him...but rather the fact that he was given a 9 year deal, allegedly with a full NMC. I for one won't be worrying about that for several years. Instead, I'll enjoy having a #1 center on the team for a change, who most likely has quite a bit of excellent hockey in the tank.

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