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07-05-2011, 09:47 AM
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how will gonchar affect filatov?

I have heard that Sergei Gonchar's presence and mentoring made Evgeni Malkin who he is today, do we possibly have another smaller Malkin?

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Filatov from all accounts needs some mentoring and someone with a Russian background and some patience would be a good choice. That would be Gonchar.

From what I have read/heard, Filatov's problems stem from some bad decisions around lifestyle/posse and expectations of immediate success which led to issues with the coach. Diet, weight room, night-life, character, desire - and much more need to be addressed.

I would assume that Filatov has now realized that both need to be addressed and he has a new chance to do so. I expect him to come in and really make the effort to get it right, especially with this being the last year of his ELC.

It may be Gonchar's best legacy to the Sens if he can help.

I guess it also depends on who Filatov hooks up with as friends on the team. He needs a workout horse/no-nonsense guy like Alfredsson.

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Hopefully. If Filatov shows the management that he doesn't have an attitude and he comes to play every night, the organization won't be scared of drafting Russians which will be great since two of the top prospects for next year are Russian.

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I have heard that Sergei Gonchar's presence and mentoring made Evgeni Malkin who he is today, do we possibly have another smaller Malkin?
Malkin's a talent but he's considered a floater and mentally immature - kinda almost excatly like Jagr.

Gonchar is his own man like Filatov is, like Kovalev is. If Ken Hitchcock, Ric Nash and some of the best agents and hockey people in the world can't help you adjust, I'd say Gonchar's impact wil be limited.

Not sure if he can talk Filatov into going into corners and battling hard for pucks. Alfie couldn't convince Heatley to do it, Chara couldn't convince Karl Rachunek to do it, Filatov is his own man he'll take himself as far as he can go, it'll be nice to have Gonchar aorund but it's not like Filatov has been void of good influcences in his hockey career.

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Malkin's a talent but he's considered a floater and mentally immature - kinda almost excatly like Jagr.

Gonchar is his own man like Filatov is, like Kovalev is. If Ken Hitchcock, Ric Nash and some of the best agents and hockey people in the world can't help you adjust, I'd say Gonchar's impact wil be limited.

Not sure if he can talk Filatov into going into corners and battling hard for pucks. Alfie couldn't convince Heatley to do it, Chara couldn't convince Karl Rachunek to do it, Filatov is his own man he'll take himself as far as he can go, it'll be nice to have Gonchar aorund but it's not like Filatov has been void of good influcences in his hockey career.
Well, to be fair, Filatov didn't really have that great of a relationship with anyone in Columbus, especially Hitchcock.

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He was also a young kid away from home in a mens league.

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He was also a young kid away from home in a mens league.
He still is.

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If you had to ask me, having Gonchar here won't HURT Filatov's development into a binafide player. Might help a bit along the way having a Russian vet here, but I can't see his impact as being monumental.

I think the BIGGER motivator for Filatov is going to be that he was drafted 6th overall, yet traded for a 3rd round pick only 3 years later. That has to be humbling. If Filatov doesn't see that he's a depreciating asset, then his time here in Ottawa will probably not work out too well. If he sees the trade as an eye-opener, however, I think we'll see Filatov turn into a pretty darned good hockey player.

It all depends on how HE views his chance here in Ottawa, and how he's viewed in the league vs how he views himself. Gonchar might help, but I don't expect him to be "the thing that straightens Filatov out".

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Gonchar can't help but influence Filatov if he's here.

They're the only Russians on the team.

However, I don't think the Malkin thing is especially relevant.

Malkin was picked to be Malkin before he was ever drafted. Filitov, as good as he is, was not the undisputed generational talent that Evgeni was coming into the draft.

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I easily see him becoming friends with EK. Karlsson is a fitness nut. He is always working out and working on his skill. That is the best motivation you can have. If you are always hanging out with someone that wants to get better and better, you will too.

I am excited to see what he can do!

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They call gonchar the professor because he's always very vocal in his efforts to impart his wisdom onto younger players. It's up to filatov to become an NHL star, but having fellow Russian GOnchar around to mentor him can't hurt, that's for sure.

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I don't understand this mentality... we talk about Russians mentoring other Russians, Swedes being influenced by fellow Swedes... yet no one ever talks about a Canadian mentoring a Canadian or an American guiding one of his countrymen.

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Wow lol. I'm amazed at how fast people turned on Gonchar, the league's best PP defenceman since the lock-out and top 2 behind Lidstrom in total points, just because of a bad year where ALL of our players underachieved.

He'll be good for the kid, if only as a mentor outside the rink.

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I didn't realize they had feelings for each other.

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I don't understand this mentality... we talk about Russians mentoring other Russians, Swedes being influenced by fellow Swedes... yet no one ever talks about a Canadian mentoring a Canadian or an American guiding one of his countrymen.
I think you underestimate the culture shock.

I grew up in Europe. It's a lot different. On and off the ice.

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I think you underestimate the culture shock.

I grew up in Europe. It's a lot different. On and off the ice.
Fair enough. Having never been outside Canada for longer than a week, I guess I'm underestimating it considerably.

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I don't understand this mentality... we talk about Russians mentoring other Russians, Swedes being influenced by fellow Swedes... yet no one ever talks about a Canadian mentoring a Canadian or an American guiding one of his countrymen.
It's because they are young kids coming overseas to play professional hockey. It's an entirely different culture and need help adjusting.

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Completely agreed.

Malek would be nowhere close to where he is without the presence of Gonchar early in his career.

Personaly, I see Condra's presence having a really strong effect on a guy like Filtov. The guy just screams "pro".

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Personaly, I see Condra's presence having a really strong effect on a guy like Filtov. The guy just screams "pro".
It's because of his stamina.

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I think it'll slow Filatovs mind a bit, and get a bit more mature...Might also make Gonchar get 1 point above last years total

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