The reason why I believe Wishart is over rated is this. He's a former 1st rd draftee(16th overall), he's on his 3rd organization and couldn't crack either San Jose or Tampa's roster. The only reason why I believe he was even picked up was because the Islanders are so thin when it comes to D. You put Wishart on 27 other NHL organizations and he's stuck in the minors or headed overseas.
I wouldn't say he's terrible by any means. I just think people on this board are inflating his value. Maybe over rated wasn't the right choice of word, but it's just my opinion.
I'm sorry if this hijacks the thread, but I wanted to respond.
The reason why I believe Wishart is over rated is this. He's a former 1st rd draftee(16th overall), he's on his 3rd organization and couldn't crack either San Jose or Tampa's roster. The only reason why I believe he was even picked up was because the Islanders are so thin when it comes to D. You put Wishart on 27 other NHL organizations and he's stuck in the minors or headed overseas.
I wouldn't say he's terrible by any means. I just think people on this board are inflating his value. Maybe over rated wasn't the right choice of word, but it's just my opinion.
I'm sorry if this hijacks the thread, but I wanted to respond.
Well, the first time he was traded, it was for Brian Boyle. Then he was buried on the depth chart in Tampa last year.
I think that the reason that the Isles signed Kabanov well before they had to was because they view his upside as very high and did not want to lose his rights if he had a great year in the Q and decided not to sign with us next June. That's good enough for me to think that he is the 6th or 7th best Isles prospect. Next year should be very interesting for KK to say the least, he might even compete for a roster spot in October though that is still a long shot IMO!!
Because the OHL is a tougher league than both the USHL and NCAA, and Lee was a year older than most of his competition.... SON
NCAA is a tougher league than OHL an lee was a freshman he was playing against players older than him while cizikas was playing against people younger than him
NCAA is a tougher league than OHL an lee was a freshman he was playing against players older than him while cizikas was playing against people younger than him
You're wrong in so many ways. There are more top prospects in the CHL than there are in NCAA.... the competition is tougher, and the season is longer.
That aside, Casey also starred in the WJC as well as the Mem Cup. Casey has had far more exposure than Lee, and he's produced at a better clip against tougher competition.
I like Lee, and I plan on voting for him soon.... but not yet.... certainly not over Casey Cizikas.
Edit: and judging by the fact that only 9 people out of 117 voted for Lee so far, makes me feel like a lot more people share my point of view than yours.
Because Martin st Louis has 100 times the skill of kvasha
Kvasha had plenty of skill.... his problem was drive. That doesn't change that your assessment of Lee > Cizikas because of size is laughable. And it isn't like Cizikas is a smurf.
You're wrong in so many ways. There are more top prospects in the CHL than there are in NCAA.... the competition is tougher, and the season is longer.
That aside, Casey also starred in the WJC as well as the Mem Cup. Casey has had far more exposure than Lee, and he's produced at a
better clip against tougher competition.
I like Lee, and I plan on voting for him soon.... but not yet.... certainly not over Casey Cizikas.
Edit: and judging by the fact that
only 9 people out of 117 voted for Lee so far, makes me feel like a lot more people share my point of view than yours.
I agree there are more top prospects in the chl compared to college it dosnt mean it's a tougher league NCAA is the tougher league take David toews for example he had 15 points in 32 games in college the next year he went to juniors and had 48 points in 60 games granted he was a year older that still is a large point increase from .47 p/g in college to .8 p/g in juniors.
Btw I didn't vote for lee I voted for kabanov I'm just saying lee>cizikas
Kvasha had plenty of skill.... his problem was drive. That doesn't change that your assessment of Lee > Cizikas because of size is laughable. And it isn't like Cizikas is a smurf.
Lee is 6 3 don't u think it would be easier to check and work in the corners(which is both of these players style of play) if u were 3 inches taller and About 30 pounds heavier?
Kvasha had plenty of skill.... his problem was drive. That doesn't change that your assessment of Lee > Cizikas because of size is laughable. And it isn't like Cizikas is a smurf.
The reason why I believe Wishart is over rated is this. He's a former 1st rd draftee(16th overall), he's on his 3rd organization and couldn't crack either San Jose or Tampa's roster. The only reason why I believe he was even picked up was because the Islanders are so thin when it comes to D. You put Wishart on 27 other NHL organizations and he's stuck in the minors or headed overseas.
I guess then Luke Schenn is 50% as "overrated" as Wishart.
Yes...AT LEAST. Kabanov is just a name at this point. Without question he should NOT be in the top 10 (and maybe 15) prospects we have.
Production at all levels would be considered a prospect in my book. That is Rhett Ratty. He has produced at the U of Denver and AHL with a poor group around him. Why is he not being considered a good prospect? I know he is not JT but he does like JT (put up numbers).
Kabanov had a good 20+ games in a row...that makes him great now? How and why?
Lee is 6 3 don't u think it would be easier to check and work in the corners(which is both of these players style of play) if u were 3 inches taller and About 30 pounds heavier?
Well it wasn't easy at all for 6'5 Kvasha.
My god are you overlooking so many characteristics of a hockey player like drive, heart, determination, and hockey sense.
