Bergenheim signed with Florida for 4 years $2.75MM.
Comeau will not get less than $2.8MM. He is probably seeking $3.2MM, what Moulson got on his first contract.
Bergenheim signed with Florida for 4 years $2.75MM.
Comeau will not get less than $2.8MM. He is probably seeking $3.2MM, what Moulson got on his first contract.
Moulson got 2.45 million minutes before arbitration.
Why? The ruling will be a one year deal. Salary isn't an issue.
His numbers are good though. MacArthur was awarded something like 2.4 million for his play and his numbers don't even compare to Blake's. I'm thinking that if it gets close to 3 million the Islanders might walk away because, quite frankly, he ain't worth it.
His numbers are good though. MacArthur was awarded something like 2.4 million for his play and his numbers don't even compare to Blake's. I'm thinking that if it gets close to 3 million the Islanders might walk away because, quite frankly, he ain't worth it.
They need to spend the $ anyway. Being overpaid really doesn't matter because they won't be anywhere close to being over the cap. Comeau will be back, but if he's awarded close to 3 mil, I'm sure this will be the last year he's with the club.
His numbers are good though. MacArthur was awarded something like 2.4 million for his play and his numbers don't even compare to Blake's. I'm thinking that if it gets close to 3 million the Islanders might walk away because, quite frankly, he ain't worth it.
I doubt he gets close to 3. 2.5 sounds right.
Its only one year. Who do the Islanders have that would be better?
He seems to be improving every year..what if next year he gets 56-57 points or more? Are we gonna let him go? He is taking a chance too with a one year...if he tanks..his value goes down and the following contract will be for less and probably longer term.
At this point, he's only improved (production-wise). As far as playing and technique, you guys can answer that one.
His numbers are good though. MacArthur was awarded something like 2.4 million for his play and his numbers don't even compare to Blake's. I'm thinking that if it gets close to 3 million the Islanders might walk away because, quite frankly, he ain't worth it.
If this gets to arbitration I can see the NYI walking away as well...with the only exception being the cap floor problem. It's an odd thing with Comeau and the Islanders. I used to have the feeling that the team didn't think much of him. But this past season, he got so much ice-time. PP, ES - even doubleshifting when Gillies dressed, PK, I think he was very close to 1st line minutes on the team and scored 24 goals.
The team uses him like a $3MM player.
His stats probably suggest a $3MM player, at least what arbitration might result in.
But I don't think he's a $3MM player.
Even though the ass-tronomical dollar$ being thrown at Cole, Fleischmann, Leino, would suggest otherwise.
I can't figure out this league anymore. I truly don't understand how these teams can afford to pay these salaries to average players. Besides a handful of real game-changers, most of the league is replaceable, almost interchangeable.
When a career minor leaguer like Moulson, Parenteau can step into the NHL and score 30 goals, score 50 points, you really wonder how much GMs value a mid-level player. Is Jason Blake worth TWICE as much as other, similar players?
I don't get it.
I like Comeau, I think he's a good player who's shown he can get better, play different roles, he's improving, maybe he can be a key piece of a winning team (remains to be seen). I'd sign him and give him the chance.
On the price-tag (not my money) - the market dictates the price. The replacement cost for the player will likely be much higher than the arbitration price.
Can the Islanders attract a replacement player at a lessor cost?
Can Comeau be traded to a team for a replacement type player or to fill a hole on defense?
Would Comeau for Komisarek or Gunnarsson make sense for both teams or neither?
It really baffles me how some people are in favor of letting Comeau go. The guy scored 24 goals last season, playing with bums(except for Bailey) while doing it. Given better linemates the guy is going to score 30 goals next season. He hits, has above average skating ability and is decent defensivley, and he's 24 years old too boot. He should be signed long term, unless he is what needs to be sent the other way to return Yandle.
If they do get rid of him, who do you suggest replaces him to account for his production? Because there is no one in the UFA market left to do so, and there is no one in our system who is going to step in and score 24 goals or more next season. Losing Comeau would be a huge hit to the scoring.
If this gets to arbitration I can see the NYI walking away as well...with the only exception being the cap floor problem. It's an odd thing with Comeau and the Islanders. I used to have the feeling that the team didn't think much of him. But this past season, he got so much ice-time. PP, ES - even doubleshifting when Gillies dressed, PK, I think he was very close to 1st line minutes on the team and scored 24 goals.
The team uses him like a $3MM player.
His stats probably suggest a $3MM player, at least what arbitration might result in.
But I don't think he's a $3MM player.
Even though the ass-tronomical dollar$ being thrown at Cole, Fleischmann, Leino, would suggest otherwise.
I can't figure out this league anymore. I truly don't understand how these teams can afford to pay these salaries to average players. Besides a handful of real game-changers, most of the league is replaceable, almost interchangeable.
When a career minor leaguer like Moulson, Parenteau can step into the NHL and score 30 goals, score 50 points, you really wonder how much GMs value a mid-level player. Is Jason Blake worth TWICE as much as other, similar players?
I don't get it.
I like Comeau, I think he's a good player who's shown he can get better, play different roles, he's improving, maybe he can be a key piece of a winning team (remains to be seen). I'd sign him and give him the chance.
On the price-tag (not my money) - the market dictates the price. The replacement cost for the player will likely be much higher than the arbitration price.
Can the Islanders attract a replacement player at a lessor cost?
Can Comeau be traded to a team for a replacement type player or to fill a hole on defense?
Would Comeau for Komisarek or Gunnarsson make sense for both teams or neither?
If we trade Comeau for Komisarek, we deserve everything we get.
Oh, he is a Long Islander, though.....the better Ferraro.
Your point on replacement cost is spot on BTW.....I'm just ranting over the Long Island player thing.
It really baffles me how some people are in favor of letting Comeau go. The guy scored 24 goals last season, playing with bums(except for Bailey) while doing it. Given better linemates the guy is going to score 30 goals next season. He hits, has above average skating ability and is decent defensivley, and he's 24 years old too boot. He should be signed long term, unless he is what needs to be sent the other way to return Yandle.
If they do get rid of him, who do you suggest replaces him to account for his production? Because there is no one in the UFA market left to do so, and there is no one in our system who is going to step in and score 24 goals or more next season. Losing Comeau would be a huge hit to the scoring.
Yep. Think Mariusz Czerkawski but with an actual defensive game. Those goal totals on a third line, nevermind a second line, are quite good. Why he's a whipping boy I have zero idea. All I can come up with is that he's ONLY a second rounder and he holds onto the puck too long (though that is a liability because of the Overspeed days me thinks......if Bailey were playing better he'd probably pass it much sooner).
The team uses him like a $3MM player.
His stats probably suggest a $3MM player, at least what arbitration might result in.
But I don't think he's a $3MM player.
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Would Comeau for Komisarek or Gunnarsson make sense for both teams or neither?
Exactly, I love Comeau but I cannot figure him out, we don't know who is the real Blake Comeau and what his ceiling really is. Honestly I would overpay him, just because of the market, our cap space and his stat increases year to year. Anywhere from 2-3m is what I would pay him on a 1 year deal I do believe with the right line-mates and with proper ice-time he will be a 25-30 goal scorer.
Gunnarsson I love, and if Comeau is demanding 3+ I would do that trade.
Exactly, I love Comeau but I cannot figure him out, we don't know who is the real Blake Comeau and what his ceiling really is. Honestly I would overpay him, just because of the market, our cap space and his stat increases year to year. Anywhere from 2-3m is what I would pay him on a 1 year deal.
I would do Comeau for Gunnarsson straight up for sure.
Snow should be fired if he ever did that deal.
Like I said above, Comeau is to valuable to this team to trade him unless it's for Keith Yandle, otherwise if anyone is getting pushed out the door is should be Josh Bailey.
1. An RFA can not use a UFA's salary to argue a case. So stop crying about Florida.
2. Getting rid of him makes ZERO sense, as the market value of a RFA first time 20-25 goal player is 2-3 million. Even if he gets 3.5, it will not matter. No reason in the world to get rid of him, are people that beaten down as fans that they think the team can not jump a million over the cap floor if need be? It is a floor not a ceiling.
But even though Comeau was a far better player overall, he's only a second rounder, not a first rounder, like Bailey. (that hurt typing that)
What does he bring so far and can he bring more? Comeau wins if one thinks like that. Bailey? It's more of a hunch but I'm prepared to live off that hunch with Bailey.
1. An RFA can not use a UFA's salary to argue a case. So stop crying about Florida.
2. Getting rid of him makes ZERO sense, as the market value of a RFA first time 20-25 goal player is 2-3 million. Even if he gets 3.5, it will not matter. No reason in the world to get rid of him, are people that beaten down as fans that they think the team can not jump a million over the cap floor if need be? It is a floor not a ceiling.
it's a ceiling in Wang's world - the basement of the NHL.
Yep. Think Mariusz Czerkawski but with an actual defensive game. Those goal totals on a third line, nevermind a second line, are quite good. Why he's a whipping boy I have zero idea. All I can come up with is that he's ONLY a second rounder and he holds onto the puck too long (though that is a liability because of the Overspeed days me thinks......if Bailey were playing better he'd probably pass it much sooner).
Blake is a much more physical player than Mariusz ever was. If Comeau can work on being more consistent night in, night out he could be a tremendous asset to the organization. Also he has shown improvement ever season, why does everyone want to get rid of him now? I guess every HF fan base needs a whipping boy. I for one am a big supporter of Blake and think he has the potential to be a 30-30 player.
Would Comeau for Komisarek or Gunnarsson make sense for both teams or neither?
Comeau for Komiserek would be the worst trade this team has made in a decade. Komiserek has no game. If his NHL.com page read bum **** canada and he was 6'0 no way is he wanted. Big body d-man has become the new "intangibles little league champ." Its nice to have, but you gotta have actual tangible skills.
