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07-06-2011, 10:17 AM
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Anyone wondering if Komisarek can return to MTL form?

There's no doubt that shoulder surgery had a severe impact mentally.

This offseason if he busts his chops and gets back into shape he could possibly get over the mental block and start playing like how hes suppose too?

Anyone else optimistic of this? I really wouldn't be surprised if he really steps it up this year, assuming he's still on the team.

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07-06-2011, 10:19 AM
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I was optimistic of this last year. I think he can do it, and I agree, it's a mental thing for him. He can be a beast of a hockey player still, he's just kinda forgotten how. I don't know if it'll be this season, next season or never, but I hope he regains his form. He would become the valuable asset we originally signed him to be, which would be a big boost to our blueline.

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07-06-2011, 10:21 AM
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I'm pretty sure we're all wondering that and whether he can live up to his 4.5m cap hit

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07-06-2011, 10:21 AM
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We've seen flashes of it during his time in Toronto.



That may just be his best shift as a Maple Leaf. I'm still hoping he can return to form because if he can, he'll be an incredible asset and just a piece of one of the better defences in the East. I'm not overly optimistic though. I don't think the situation has been ideal for him. Having to live up to a big contract, injuries hitting him and horrible goaltending at times.

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i think he can, i still trust in him.

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07-06-2011, 10:23 AM
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We've seen flashes of it during his time in Toronto.



That may just be his best shift as a Maple Leaf. I'm still hoping he can return to form because if he can, he'll be an incredible asset and just a piece of one of the better defences in the East. I'm not overly optimistic though. I don't think the situation has been ideal for him. Having to live up to a big contract, injuries hitting him and horrible goaltending at times.
Yeah, where the hell has that Komisarek been? He's in there somewhere, waiting to be unleashed. It would be sweet if he'd let the tiger out of the cage and play the way he physically can. Was that from this past year?

EDIT: Yes it was, and late in the year too. Hopefully that's a glimpse of what's to come this season

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07-06-2011, 10:25 AM
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Yeah he absolutely leveled that guy in the colorado game i jumped off my couch lol.

Does anyone know how much time he got to rehab his shoulder surgery last season?

Honestly if he has a good strengthening program this offseason i could see him becoming a beast next season.

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07-06-2011, 10:26 AM
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I certainly hope so, although it would make figuring out our D situation even more difficult.

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hopefully he's been busting his balls over the offseason; training and getting mentally prepared because I fully believe in his skill. With komi the issue is mental, i'm pretty sure he's 100% fully healed and now it's just a matter of getting his head back in the game.

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07-06-2011, 10:28 AM
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Imagine packaging him in a deal when he actually has some trade value

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regular season and playofs are two different animals....Vancouver D looked so soft (except Bieksa) ...in a good playoff run i think KOMI would be VERY valuable. Boston d was tough and mean. Boychuck Mcquaid played major roles.
LEAFS D would be great in a good playoff run...if we get good goaltending and stay heathly...
"stay healthy my friends" ....and leafs will go deep!!!!!!!!!!!

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He better or he'll find himself in the pressbox on most nights.

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There is absolutely no reason at this point as to why Komisarek shouldnt be able to get back into his form of several years ago.

He's completely rehabilitated physically, its just his mental approach.

The game he plays indeed takes a serious toll on your body. He's had a rough go for quite some time and its because he has wandered away from his game that earned him $4.5million per season.

He has it in him to get back to that point if he can indeed find that mental state. Players just dont lose that physical edge...if you have it, you have it! He's not a puck mover or two-way dman by any means and he's well aware of that. He's going to have to find a new approach to the game and just let loose.

Hopefully a full year with Gunnarsson will help him understand that he's got a reliable and positional defender beside him that will enable him to run rough shot over other players on the ice without having to worry about giving up clean breaks.

Im personally not worried about Komisarek, as he's a complete professional and with all of this depth now on our back end, you can be sure he's going to go back to his basics.

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The shoulder injury/surgery definitely played a major role in why he hasn't been the same since. But he's capable of it, and it wouldn't surprise me to see him bounce back in one way or another.

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There is absolutely no reason at this point as to why Komisarek shouldnt be able to get back into his form of several years ago.

He's completely rehabilitated physically, its just his mental approach.

The game he plays indeed takes a serious toll on your body. He's had a rough go for quite some time and its because he has wandered away from his game that earned him $4.5million per season.

He has it in him to get back to that point if he can indeed find that mental state. Players just dont lose that physical edge...if you have it, you have it! He's not a puck mover or two-way dman by any means and he's well aware of that. He's going to have to find a new approach to the game and just let loose.

Hopefully a full year with Gunnarsson will help him understand that he's got a reliable and positional defender beside him that will enable him to run rough shot over other players on the ice without having to worry about giving up clean breaks.

Im personally not worried about Komisarek, as he's a complete professional and with all of this depth now on our back end, you can be sure he's going to go back to his basics.
Yeah I think that could help him out. I think with his inflated contract, he was trying too hard early on to be THE guy on our backend. He isnt a #1 defenceman, but he still has it in him to be a solid piece of a very deep defence.

If his cap hit were say, $1.5 million, nobody would be complaining about him and he wouldnt have been trying too hard. Hes going to be overpaid for the duration of his contract, but if he can settle his game down he still has the ability to be a very useful piece of our blueline. Especially if we ever get to the playoffs as somebody else mentioned, and you need those big physical defenders over the course of a long series.

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07-06-2011, 11:44 AM
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Hopefully Komisarek can return to this form



But if he doesnt by the trade deadline i'd be looking to deal him... unless he's dealt before the season even starts

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well, now that our blue line is a little more crowded he'll have no choice but to regain his old from if he wants to play. if he doesn't he'll be shown the door after this season IMO.

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07-06-2011, 11:49 AM
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I'm wondering if he can return to Montreal.

Do you think they will give us one of their best prospects, and overpay for him? Isn't that their trend?

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well, now that our blue line is a little more crowded he'll have no choice but to regain his old from if he wants to play. if he doesn't he'll be shown the door after this season IMO.
I really think it's to his advantage to have limited TOI. He needs to sort of reset his on ice play. And the best way is to start with less time and concentrate on doing all the little things right, until it becomes second nature. Kind of like how you groom a rookie for the NHL. Start small and work your way up. That's what he needs.

And if he never really recovers his game, then the limited TOI will hurt the team less.

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07-06-2011, 12:25 PM
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Komi will never look as good as he did in Montreal for two reasons:

1. The Leafs don't have an Andrei Markov who was one of the top Dmen in the league at the time of Komi playing with him to cover for Komis lack of ability to handle the puck.
2.Jacques Martin plays a different system than Ron Wilson. Martin's system insulates Dmen like Komi and Hal Gill well in Wilson's the Dmen are relied on to pinch and cover a wider range of ice.

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Komi will never look as good as he did in Montreal for two reasons:

1. The Leafs don't have an Andrei Markov who was one of the top Dmen in the league at the time of Komi playing with him to cover for Komis lack of ability to handle the puck.
2.Jacques Martin plays a different system than Ron Wilson. Martin's system insulates Dmen like Komi and Hal Gill well in Wilson's the Dmen are relied on to pinch and cover a wider range of ice.
That's the issue, Komisarek needs a puck moving D-man but also one that is amazing defensively, he isn't like Schenn who is good playing with just almost anyone. I thought pairing him with Kaberle would be perfect, but it just never worked. And to be honest I don't see him ever began as effective as he was in MTL. Best case for Komisarek is to play a limited role on the 3rd pairing and maybe trade him next offseason when his salary is lower than his cap hit. Another factor missing in his game now is no one in the league is intimidated by him after the Lucic fight. He use to be so much more mentally tough before that. Just my 2cents on the topic.

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Even if the old Komi returns we need to trade him.
It seems that almost no matter what, Dion and Schenn will be on the top 2 pairs and even the Komi from his Montreal days isnt a good fit to play on the top 2 lines.
4.5m is just too much to pay a bottom pairing NHL dman and with Komi's poor hands and there players there are above him that is all he will ever be here.

I loved his physical play back in his Habs days but we really don't need it here. Luke lead the league in hist by a defenceman, and both Phaneuf and Aulie would have been in the top 10 if they had played all season.

Tho if he does play here next year and plays anything close to the way he did a few years ago we will have the meanest, most physical defense in the league. If we do make the playoff think how badly those 4 would wear down the opposition forwards over a 7 game series.

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Hopefully Komisarek can return to this form



But if he doesnt by the trade deadline i'd be looking to deal him... unless he's dealt before the season even starts
I just saw Komisarek on a breakaway.

Okay, we REALLY need to get him to go back to Montreal form.

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Not wondering this because he was never that good in Montreal he was overrated just like every other Leafs acquisition. The only good he can do the Leafs now is to be moved but I doubt a sucker can be found.

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