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07-07-2011, 10:39 AM
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To Toronto:
LW David Booth
D Jason Garrison
F John McFarland

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D Luke Schenn
C Nazem Kadri

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i guess this is my first not so good proposal, o well now im like 20-1 in making proposals....

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07-07-2011, 10:41 AM
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When you are bored find something else to do
how bout trying to change it and give feedback instead of being a nuisance?

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Kadri + Schenn for Kulikov + Gudbranson + Bjustad

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07-07-2011, 10:42 AM
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i guess this is my first not so good proposal, o well now im like 20-1 in making proposals....
I'm just glad I saw a bad proposal for the Leafs for a change.

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07-07-2011, 10:43 AM
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Leafs don't do this.

:3 But here's why!

With the Lebda trade Franson sews up all need for offensively-minded D-men and with Gardiner and Blacker in the pipeline it looks like we'll be ok for the future in that department. So there's no need to add Garrison to our system.

Schenn is our defensive stud, he plays a big role on the PK because Phaneuf rarely plays there since he is mostly chewing up ES minutes and PP so if he goes we'd have a giant hole on D that we couldn't even band-aid without giving up something significant.

Our need for LW isn't that big since we have Lupul and Kulemin signed and it's reasonable to think they could hit at least 20 goals each. So getting Booth isn't that great.

We're content with Kadri, he's just entering his second year in pro hockey and will probably play in the AHL. There's no reason to panic and trade him for a prospect with more risk. :3

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Kadri + Schenn for Kulikov + Gudbranson + Bjustad


forget the ?

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To Toronto:
LW David Booth
D Jason Garrison
F John McFarland

To Florida:
D Luke Schenn
C Nazem Kadri

Thoughts?
Yikes...

Booth is a pretty good player, but he isn't much of an upgrade over our current top-6 wingers, if at all. Kessel, Kulemin, and MacArthur all outscored him by ~20 points last year, and Lupul would have outscored him too over a full season.

On top of not really having a need for Booth, I'd say Luke Schenn is pretty clearly the top piece in this deal, coming off a dynamite season as a 21 year old. Kadri is a better prospect than McFarland (and will be ready to make an impact this season), and Garrison is a decent player, but we already have quite a few second-pairing defensemen.

This just doesn't really make sense for the Leafs. We trade the best player and best prospect for two guys who are a little redundant on the current roster.

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07-07-2011, 10:45 AM
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Leafs don't do this.

:3 But here's why!

With the Lebda trade Franson sews up all need for offensively-minded D-men and with Gardiner and Blacker in the pipeline it looks like we'll be ok for the future in that department. So there's no need to add Garrison to our system.

Schenn is our defensive stud, he plays a big role on the PK because Phaneuf rarely plays there since he is mostly chewing up ES minutes and PP so if he goes we'd have a giant hole on D that we couldn't even band-aid without giving up something significant.

Our need for LW isn't that big since we have Lupul and Kulemin signed and it's reasonable to think they could hit at least 20 goals each. So getting Booth isn't that great.

We're content with Kadri, he's just entering his second year in pro hockey and will probably play in the AHL. There's no reason to panic and trade him for a prospect with a lower ceiling. :3
makes sense, thanks for the feedback...

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07-07-2011, 10:46 AM
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Moving young players around is risky. The leafs are moving two here and they're both highly valued. The reservation on their part is understandable.


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07-07-2011, 10:46 AM
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I'm not sure how much value David Booth has with his contract and recent production to the Maple Leafs.

He has a NMC and Maple Leaf management staff have said they aren't interested in those types of clauses (usually, NTC they give out are some form of modification IIRC).

He would certainly help the LW depth, but at the time they are sort of in the same situation with Lupul as they would be with Booth - hoping he rebounds and can be a 25-25 guy.

The hole Booth would fit is likely on the 3rd line. I'm NOT saying he's a 3rd line guy, but Lupul has shown he can fit well with Kessel, and MacArthur is a key fixture on that second unit (or Kulemin - they both can play on either side).

Kadri is a prime candidate for the 3rd line spot on the LW and on a cheaper contract with the potential to produce as well as Booth did last year.

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We're content with Kadri, he's just entering his second year in pro hockey and will probably play in the AHL. There's no reason to panic and trade him for a prospect with a lower ceiling. :3
Unless he really takes a step back from where he was at the end of last season, I'll be shocked if Kadri doesn't spend the majority of the year with the Leafs.

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Kadri + Schenn for Kulikov + Gudbranson + Bjustad


Kulikov is easily better than Schenn. Kulikov is so underrated on this board, and Schenn...

Thanks for the laugh though..

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07-07-2011, 10:49 AM
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makes sense, thanks for the feedback...
Yeah we're kind of the one team that shouldn't be trading right now. We don't need anything but a 1C and that's..really hard to get. We have good prospects just not amazing prospects.

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07-07-2011, 10:50 AM
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i guess this is my first not so good proposal, o well now im like 20-1 in making proposals....
Don't worry about it, that is what this forum is for.

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07-07-2011, 10:51 AM
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Unless he really takes a step back from where he was at the end of last season, I'll be shocked if Kadri doesn't spend the majority of the year with the Leafs.
Well the big concern for Kadri is that it might hurt his growth playing 10-13minutes a night when he could be in the A playing 18-20. More playing time, more experience, gets to prove what he needs to and really become a 1B option at center.

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07-07-2011, 10:53 AM
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Well the big concern for Kadri is that it might hurt his growth playing 10-13minutes a night when he could be in the A playing 18-20. More playing time, more experience, gets to prove what he needs to and really become a 1B option at center.
Burke said he's going to be a winger this season, so there's no reason to see why he wouldn't play a 3rd line role + PP time.

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07-07-2011, 10:57 AM
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Great deal for Panthers!!! Terrible for leafs... two best prospects gone

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07-07-2011, 11:01 AM
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Burke said he's going to be a winger this season, so there's no reason to see why he wouldn't play a 3rd line role + PP time.
:C Yeah I just don't agree with that.

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07-07-2011, 11:05 AM
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Burke said he's going to be a winger this season, so there's no reason to see why he wouldn't play a 3rd line role + PP time.
+ snipe dirty G's in the shootout

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07-07-2011, 11:28 AM
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Leafs have 4 Legit Top 6 wingers, 2 NHL ready prospects ready to fill the wings (Frattin and Kadri), 8 NHL calibre defenseman, 2 close to NHL ready prospects to fill the D (Gardiner and Blacker), 2 Legit Top 6 centers (Connolly and Grabovski), a set bottom 6 and a possible/probable #1 Goalie.

Our needs are an upgrade at center and possibly goaltending but the only thing that can realistically upgrade the Leafs is a star player. Acquiring Booth will not help us what so ever as he would be behind Kessel, MacArthur and Kulemin (and possibly Lupul) in the depth chart. Garrison is really no where close to a need for us and McFarland would be pretty low on our depth chart. The only players that i would realistically be interested from Florida would be Markstrom, Gubranson, Kulikov, Bjudstad and Huberdeau, most of which (not including Kulikov and Huberdeau) I would not even consider trading Schenn for.

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I'm just glad I saw a bad proposal for the Leafs for a change.
Slowly becoming the biggest leaf hater...maybe take a chill pill for a while bud...or graduate high school, that could help too

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so maybe Schenn is expandable
Only when it gets REALLY hot out.

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lol this is what leaf fans proposals on these boards look like to other teams

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