BTW, the Flyers have named Lappy as development coach. Why does that matter? Tough to argue he hasn't "retired" when he's assumed a new position.
Decent chance they aren't going to bother with the LTIR argument, I think.
Well if you are suggesting he will retire, then I doubt it. Unless his new job pays him 1mil, which is what he would get just sitting around "trying" to comeback, then he will likely not retire.
Well if you are suggesting he will retire, then I doubt it. Unless his new job pays him 1mil, which is what he would get just sitting around "trying" to comeback, then he will likely not retire.
Well if you are suggesting he will retire, then I doubt it. Unless his new job pays him 1mil, which is what he would get just sitting around "trying" to comeback, then he will likely not retire.
You're missing the point. In order to qualify, Lappy needs to be actively trying to make a comeback. Now, to a certain extent its all BS at this point, but it was never a sure thing that the league would let them LTIR him.
So, him having an actual official position is a potentially big deal.
You're missing the point. In order to qualify, Lappy needs to be actively trying to make a comeback. Now, to a certain extent its all BS at this point, but it was never a sure thing that the league would let them LTIR him.
So, him having an actual official position is a potentially big deal.
Not saying they will now, but didn't the league make some sort of exception for Mike Rathje? He was on LTIR for like a hundred years wasn't he when he had no intention of coming back?
Not saying they will now, but didn't the league make some sort of exception for Mike Rathje? He was on LTIR for like a hundred years wasn't he when he had no intention of coming back?
You might recall him actually showing up in camp that one year. Rathje also didn't take another gig (that I'm aware of).
You're missing the point. In order to qualify, Lappy needs to be actively trying to make a comeback. Now, to a certain extent its all BS at this point, but it was never a sure thing that the league would let them LTIR him.
So, him having an actual official position is a potentially big deal.
So his cap hit comes off if he's retired? What's the big deal about, please explain. tia
So his cap hit comes off if he's retired? What's the big deal about, please explain. tia
His cap hit doesn't come off since he is a 35+ contract. You can stash him on LTIR if it's plausible that he's attempting a comeback, and you're then allowed to exceed the cap by the amount of his salary. However, once he accepts another job, he is clearly retired, and his hit counts against the cap.
His cap hit doesn't come off since he is a 35+ contract. You can stash him on LTIR if it's plausible that he's attempting a comeback, and you're then allowed to exceed the cap by the amount of his salary. However, once he accepts another job, he is clearly retired, and his hit counts against the cap.
So if he is officially a coach, we're screwing ourselves. Awesome.
You're missing the point. In order to qualify, Lappy needs to be actively trying to make a comeback. Now, to a certain extent its all BS at this point, but it was never a sure thing that the league would let them LTIR him.
So, him having an actual official position is a potentially big deal.
League: "You can't put Lappy on LTIR, he is coaching for you now"
Homer: "No, he is not coaching, he has been "developing" ways to return from a concussion and his primary subject is himself. He still hopes to play this year."
BTW, the Flyers have named Lappy as development coach. Why does that matter? Tough to argue he hasn't "retired" when he's assumed a new position.
Decent chance they aren't going to bother with the LTIR argument, I think.
Not necessarily. I'm not sure what he can do for his symptoms besides waiting. He can always say he intends to fulfill his player contract as soon as his symptoms subside.
Doesn't staying at home look more like "retirement" from hockey than taking on an auxiliary coaching role?
WOW thats a discount i thought he'd get at least 2.5. Good Luck with him, he'll be a crowd favorite, and will be interesting to see when the Kings come to Philly in the middle of October
2.5 mil a year? seems about 1 mil a year too high,
Wasn't Clarke both a player and an assistant coach back in the early 80's which is why he gave up the "C".
They could say lappy is working out and trying new avenues of treatment, and while doing so is keeping around the team by helping the young players. Not far fetched. Heck the NHL gave him a players award this year and he was on LTIR all season, it's good for both parties. If they crack down on that it would make GM more leery of giving multiyear contracts to over 35 players. I bet the NHLPA tries to fix that next time around so the older players make out better.
I like those number for Simmonds though, he's going to be fun to watch.
You're missing the point. In order to qualify, Lappy needs to be actively trying to make a comeback. Now, to a certain extent its all BS at this point, but it was never a sure thing that the league would let them LTIR him.
So, him having an actual official position is a potentially big deal.
Not saying you're wrong but how exactly do you "actively" attempt to come back from a brain injury? A lot of it is simply just wait it out. I'd say the development coach thing is more of giving him something to do to prevent utter boredom while he isn't cleared to play hockey, I think Hatcher did something similar.
I mean if he's working out and stuff so when he's cleared he can play, he can argue he's still hitting the gym and seeing a doctor and such but this is an interim job so he has something to do. And I don't think any NHL Board member will argue that if doctor's clear him to be a development coach and it won't hinder his recovery.
Not saying you're wrong but how exactly do you "actively" attempt to come back from a brain injury? A lot of it is simply just wait it out. I'd say the development coach thing is more of giving him something to do to prevent utter boredom while he isn't cleared to play hockey, I think Hatcher did something similar.
I mean if he's working out and stuff so when he's cleared he can play, he can argue he's still hitting the gym and seeing a doctor and such but this is an interim job so he has something to do. And I don't think any NHL Board member will argue that if doctor's clear him to be a development coach and it won't hinder his recovery.
Hatcher didn't do anything in an official capacity until his contract was done. If Lappy was hanging around helping out, it wouldn't be a big deal. However, it isn't exactly a state secret that both he and the Flyers had every intention of him working for the organization when his career was "over".
The NHL has not stepped down too hard on these 35+ situations in the past, but this seems to be simply spitting on the rule.
Hatcher didn't do anything in an official capacity until his contract was done. If Lappy was hanging around helping out, it wouldn't be a big deal. However, it isn't exactly a state secret that both he and the Flyers had every intention of him working for the organization when his career was "over".
The NHL has not stepped down too hard on these 35+ situations in the past, but this seems to be simply spitting on the rule.
Right, but you never really answered my question though. How do you actively recover from a brain injury? In this case since it's an unknown amount of time out I don't really see it as spitting on the rule. If anything I see it as an interim job until Lappy can return to the ice. And if he can return, "Flyers announce new development coach, Laperriere to return to ice."
Right, but you never really answered my question though. How do you actively recover from a brain injury? In this case since it's an unknown amount of time out I don't really see it as spitting on the rule. If anything I see it as an interim job until Lappy can return to the ice. And if he can return, "Flyers announce new development coach, Laperriere to return to ice."
If you've actively taken on new responsibilities, it doesnt look like you have any intention of coming back. Everyone knows his career is over. He's publicly spoken about how he's been told not to play again by his doctors.
If you've actively taken on new responsibilities, it doesnt look like you have any intention of coming back. Everyone knows his career is over. He's publicly spoken about how he's been told not to play again by his doctors.
This, however, "looks" like retirement looks.
If the league does anything it'll be because of this, not because he's running a week long camp.
