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07-08-2011, 11:25 AM
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Just Dubi and Cally to go

Get em tied up Slats
Boyle too.

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07-08-2011, 11:34 AM
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Boyle too.
I hope they sign Boyle to a longer deal too, although I'm not sure he will go for it. I think he has the potential and work-ethic to be a perennial top PKer and 20 goal scorer.

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I hope they sign Boyle to a longer deal too, although I'm not sure he will go for it. I think he has the potential and work-ethic to be a perennial top PKer and 20 goal scorer.
I have a hard time seeing him scoring 20 goals again. Especially when he's likely to be seeing 4th line minutes at even strength. If you pay him based on last year, and then significantly reduce his time, that's a recipe for disappointment IMO.

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Another great deal. Glad to see him signed. Great value on the contract too. A tad less then I thought he'd sign for. This leaves plenty of room for Cally, Dubi and Boyle.

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I have a hard time seeing him scoring 20 goals again. Especially when he's likely to be seeing 4th line minutes at even strength. If you pay him based on last year, and then significantly reduce his time, that's a recipe for disappointment IMO.
boyle will take a short term deal because he has to prove that last year was a fluke, and he can become a UFA next summer so makes little sense for him to lock himself up long term if he is confident that last year wasn't a fluke...

that really is the million $$ question...do you think that last year was a fluke? or was it a big, former 1st rounder that took some time to develop and busted his behind and finally had a breakout year?

if you think its a fluke, then you should probably try to trade him before other teams realize it...if you don't think its a fluke than regardless of salary he'll be too good for the 4th line so you need to either find him a spot for him in the top 9 or he becomes a trade chip.

i think this year he won't get 4th line minutes. i think due to our lack of depth on wings, that the boyle-prust line will actually be the 3rd line on most nights...but this is why i like the idea of trying boyle on LW. not necessarily right now. but long term i think he fits into the top 9 better that way.

sorry for going off topic...back to sauer being awesome

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07-08-2011, 01:00 PM
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I have a hard time seeing him scoring 20 goals again. Especially when he's likely to be seeing 4th line minutes at even strength. If you pay him based on last year, and then significantly reduce his time, that's a recipe for disappointment IMO.
12-15g, 15a next year for Boyle and i will be happy.

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07-08-2011, 01:10 PM
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I have a hard time seeing him scoring 20 goals again. Especially when he's likely to be seeing 4th line minutes at even strength. If you pay him based on last year, and then significantly reduce his time, that's a recipe for disappointment IMO.
I agree, he averaged 15 minutes a game last season and I'd be shocked if he plays that much this year. Also, if Feds no longer plays on that line, I think the dynamic of that line changes a bit and they won't score as much (which is fine for a 4th line, last year their minutes were more reflective of a 3rd line).

I'm hoping he gets locked up before arbitration because he is in danger of being overpaid if it gets to that point. I'm sure Slats will get something hammered out soon.

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Actually a little lower than what i was expecting him to get. Good signing.

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07-08-2011, 01:30 PM
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Mike was a bit under what I thought as well. I was figuring $1.5 mil. So this is a pretty good deal for the Rangers. Mike was really solid last year from start to finish. Keeps his positions--plays hard and physical but isn't constantly being penalized. He makes good, smart pinches. I don't think he'll ever be a big point producer but he might be able to get into the 25 range.

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Mike was a bit under what I thought as well. I was figuring $1.5 mil. So this is a pretty good deal for the Rangers. Mike was really solid last year from start to finish. Keeps his positions--plays hard and physical but isn't constantly being penalized. He makes good, smart pinches. I don't think he'll ever be a big point producer but he might be able to get into the 25 range.
Ideally Sauer would be a 3rd pairing defenseman for us with regular PK minutes. Once some of our other kids start their careers i think thats what'll happen.

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07-08-2011, 01:46 PM
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Mike was a bit under what I thought as well. I was figuring $1.5 mil. So this is a pretty good deal for the Rangers. Mike was really solid last year from start to finish. Keeps his positions--plays hard and physical but isn't constantly being penalized. He makes good, smart pinches. I don't think he'll ever be a big point producer but he might be able to get into the 25 range.
he reminds me a little bit of Richard Matvichuk when he was with the Stars. steady defensively and not too flashy..

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07-08-2011, 02:56 PM
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Sauer reminds me of a RICH MAN's Colin White. Great defensively, nasty edge to his game, similar stride, but can jump into the play and read the game in the offensive zone much better than White.

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07-08-2011, 03:02 PM
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as expected, they probably were waiting to get Sauer signed so they could announce his signing with AA's simultaneously.

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Good jobs Slats. $1.25M seems a little bit less than I expected, but of course I'll take it.

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07-08-2011, 04:56 PM
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Same was said about MDZ after his rookie year. Who knows... sophomores are troublesome often.
Apples and oranges. Del Zotto was not waiver eligible last year (and he isn't this coming season either). Sauer either stays with the big club or gets traded; he would have to pass through waivers to be sent to the AHL--and there's no way I can see that happening, he's graduated from that level of play.

It's a good contract--Sauer earned it. Now he has to go out and prove he can continue to progress as an NHL defenseman.

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07-08-2011, 07:38 PM
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If he continues to grow he might garner 3 mil his next deal.

If he stays the level he is at now it might be closer to 2.

Still, a lot better for the kid then AHL money. I was sure he'd crack it and make an NHL team very surprised and happy, I just didn't think that it'd be with the Rangers. Tortorella is smarter than I gave him credit for.
Michael Sauer has terrific defensive instincts who had the misfortune of chronic injuries earlier in his career which set him back. Lucky for us,we plucked him off in the leetch deal and we stuck with him thru thick and thin which is first beginning to and will continue to pay big dividends. That's the kind of story I love, a player we didn't give up on and he's here for the long haul.

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07-08-2011, 07:59 PM
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wish it was for 4 years @ that cap hit but I guess Sauer is smart enough to lock himself up that long term....but glad we have him back.
I'm a little nervous to lock someone with his injury riddled past to a 4 year deal after 1 season at the NHL level. I think this is a good deal for both parties, and he'll get paid Girardi money if he plays most of the two years I would imagine.

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Apples and oranges. Del Zotto was not waiver eligible last year (and he isn't this coming season either). Sauer either stays with the big club or gets traded; he would have to pass through waivers to be sent to the AHL--and there's no way I can see that happening, he's graduated from that level of play.

It's a good contract--Sauer earned it. Now he has to go out and prove he can continue to progress as an NHL defenseman.
OK, but Del Zotto isn't the first defenseman recently to have sophomore slumps. Doughty, Myers, Bogosian, etc. all arguably had similar sophomore slumps, they just weren't AS bad as Del Zotto.

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I have a hard time seeing him scoring 20 goals again. Especially when he's likely to be seeing 4th line minutes at even strength. If you pay him based on last year, and then significantly reduce his time, that's a recipe for disappointment IMO.
I think he's destined to play LW on the 2nd or 3rd line. In that case, he will hit 20 no problem IMO. I won't be surprised at all if he's utilized more on the PP either.

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OK, but Del Zotto isn't the first defenseman recently to have sophomore slumps. Doughty, Myers, Bogosian, etc. all arguably had similar sophomore slumps, they just weren't AS bad as Del Zotto.


Doughty was top-3 in Norris votes in his sophomore year.

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OK, but Del Zotto isn't the first defenseman recently to have sophomore slumps. Doughty, Myers, Bogosian, etc. all arguably had similar sophomore slumps, they just weren't AS bad as Del Zotto.
Unless Sauer suddenly starts being overly aggressive--which seems unlikely--he'll be fine. Plus, he's several years older than Del Zotto and played professionally for a number of years before making the NHL. That's why I said it's apples and oranges.

Del Zotto was having problems defensively from the start--the fast offensive pace and the way he was on the power play made it a worthwhile trade off. But, then other teams figured out how to cut off his passes from the defensive zone and he was completely unable to change his game. He just kept trying the same long passes over and over. In retrospect, he should have been sent down to the AHL much sooner. Getting hurt was the worst thing that happened to him. He needs to play major minutes to get his game up to speed.

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Doughty was top-3 in Norris votes in his sophomor year.
He meant junior slump.

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nice deal, I hope we keep Sauer for his career, he is going to be a very good defenseman

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2 year deal means Sauer will still be RFA with arb rights.

Good news and a good deal.

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so is Mikes bro Kurt done? He has a yr left on his deal with the Yotes but only played a game in hte last 2

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