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07-15-2011, 05:13 PM
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So, for the 2nd time, Awesome Express will select Warren Godfrey, D

Leafs Forever's Godfrey Bio: http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=2...9&postcount=73
Wait.... what?

The first time he was picked didn't count? I scratched him off the top of my list......

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07-15-2011, 06:16 PM
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You wanted Godfrey over Evans and Armstrong? I think those two were demonstrably better.

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07-15-2011, 06:20 PM
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You wanted Godfrey over Evans and Armstrong? I think those two were demonstrably better.
Evans was already gone. Armstrong and Godfrey are pretty close. I like Godfrey better.

Regardless, I only passed on him because I thought he was already picked....

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07-15-2011, 06:21 PM
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The Belleville Bulls will select a center that could orchestrate beautiful plays and was the key player on the Soviet's "Kid Line"..

C - Vyacheslav Anisin

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07-15-2011, 06:33 PM
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Evans was already gone. Armstrong and Godfrey are pretty close. I like Godfrey better.

Regardless, I only passed on him because I thought he was already picked....
I jumped the gun and made our pick a few picks before we were up, thinking the original post was full up-to-date. You didn't pick between then and between the time I actually picked, so no harm was done.

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07-15-2011, 06:35 PM
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I know....

overpass can answer the question of when Alfie actually played with Spezza and Heatley, but I'm pretty sure that it was less often than people think. I think Alfie usually played on the second line, with the major exception of the 2007 playoffs.

Backstrom, as far as I know, has always centered Ovechkin with the right wing constantly changing.
Not only can I answer the question, I can post some data. matnor was kind enough to give me the data he compiled from the HSP on players who collaborated together on points, and I've been playing around with that. By looking at EV points only we can see who players played with. Unfortunately I don't have the numbers for this past season.

Since linemates don't always share in every goal that's scored when they are on the ice, no player will hit 100% in the numbers below. I take 60% or higher to be basically full time linemates.

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Spezza played with Heatley and not Alfie in the 2005-06 playoffs. They were all together in the 2006-07 playoffs, of course, and then Alfie missed the 2007-08 playoffs so it was Heatley-Spezza again.

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07-15-2011, 06:41 PM
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Those graphs are eye candy!

But let's not assume "better" player means scores more points. There are other factors and intangibles that Alfredsson has that Heatley doesn't that are NOT in that pretty graph!

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Those graphs are eye candy!

But let's not assume "better" player means scores more points. There are other factors and intangibles that Alfredsson has that Heatley doesn't that are NOT in that pretty graph!
Oh yeah, for sure. All those graphs mean is that Heatley was a part of more of Spezza's points than Alfredsson was. Mainly because Alfie played on the second line sometimes.

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07-15-2011, 07:23 PM
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Those graphs are eye candy!

But let's not assume "better" player means scores more points. There are other factors and intangibles that Alfredsson has that Heatley doesn't that are NOT in that pretty graph!
True.

But if the goal is to figure out who might have helped Spezza's point totals, then Alfreddson's intangibles don't matter as much, right?

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07-15-2011, 07:24 PM
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You didn't pick between then and between the time I actually picked, so no harm was done.
I picked right before you picked Godfrey for the second time.

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07-15-2011, 09:02 PM
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Born in Fort William, Ontario, Sands played with the local Forts and Port Arthur Ports of the TBSHL before dressing for three games with the Toronto Maple Leafs in 1932-33. He spent most of that season with the IAHL's Syracuse Stars then scored eight goals as a solid role player for the Leafs the next year which included participation in the Ace Bailey Benefit Game.

In May, 1934, Sands was sent to the Boston Bruins for cash. He fit in well and scored 15 goals for his new club while playing on a line with Marty Barry and xxx. Two years later he scored a personal high 18 goals for the club while teaming with Bill Cowley and Rey Getliffe.

Early in the 1939-40 season Sands was sent to the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for Herb Cain. He was a fine checker and playmaker for four years with the Habs before he was loaned to the New York Rangers for a few games in 1943-44. Sands retired in 1945-46 after playing a few contests for the Los Angeles Monarchs of the PCHL.
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Weiland slipped from a melee near the Boston net to hand Sands the puck for the first counter after nearly 16 minutes of the 2nd period. More than 17 minutes of the 3rd had gone when Sands broke away from a Hawk offensive and set up a scoring pass for Weiland.
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07-15-2011, 10:52 PM
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Martin Havlat, RW


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07-15-2011, 11:11 PM
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PHEW! That took awhile, but I've got bios done for McDougall and Phat Wilson. I could not get very much on McDougall, but I think I've discovered a lot of good stuff about Wilson.

McDougall bio: http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=3...&postcount=173

Wilson bio: http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=3...&postcount=226

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07-15-2011, 11:35 PM
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This one includes a quote that Wilson won three scoring titles in the Thunder Bay league at the end of his career. This is not accurate; he won one, in 1930/31, though he was second in points per game. In each of the two years before that he was third in scoring, and this is presumably the three-year stretch being referred to. He played one final season after that.

Before the minor pro leagues were organized and sucked most of the best players out of senior hockey, he was never really close to a scoring title.

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07-16-2011, 01:37 AM
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I guess I'll take another offensive defenseman - Mike McEwen. He definately has some holes in his game, but I think it will be easier to cover that up than it will be to find more offense later.

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Detroit Red Wings selects:

Andrew Brunette, LW


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The Warroad Lakers select RW Scott Mellanby


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Sleepwatchers are pleased to add D, Bob Murdoch.

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With pick #81, the Pittsburgh Hornets select Tim Young, C.


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Garnish rounds out their 1st defensive pairing and my starting 6 by selecting defenseman, Brad Marsh.



With 198 points in 1086 career games Garnish didn't draft Marsh for his defense but rather a zeal to play the game and a reputation of being a good stay at home defenseman.

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With pick #81, the Pittsburgh Hornets select Tim Young, C.

He was the next center on my list. Was hoping he'd last till my next choice.

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07-16-2011, 03:35 PM
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Bob murdoch was an outstanding choice. He was next on my list for d-men but I don't think I would have been taking a d-man next.

Dude played a lot of minutes, and for very good teams too. Was the #4 behind three hhofers when the habs won the 1973 cup. He got norris/AS consideration in two seasons.

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Garnish rounds out their 1st defensive pairing and my starting 6 by selecting defenseman, Brad Marsh.



With 198 points in 1086 career games Garnish didn't draft Marsh for his defense but rather a zeal to play the game and a reputation of being a good stay at home defenseman.

For more on Marsh click the following link:

http://www.legendsofhockey.net/Legen...p?player=11026

I've notified the next guys up that they're now on the clock.
Ahhhh the octopus!

He would have been right at home in the dead puck era if he had played then hahaha

I always had the impression Marshy was a good team guy when he was with the Leafs. He was a real veteran presence on a young team at that time.

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With the 83rd pick of the draft, Eden Hall selects the perfect complimentary player for the two highly-skilled but small speedsters on our first line:

Nick Mickoski, LW



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Beginning in the 1948-49 season, "Broadway Nick" spent parts of seven seasons with the Rangers. After scoring 20 points in 1949-50, he helped the Rangers reach the Stanley Cup finals for the last time in 22 years. During the overtime period of the seventh game, he hit the post then watched YYY become a hero in Motown. In 1950-51, he hit the 20-goal mark while teamed with XXX and Don Raleigh.

Mickoski joined the Chicago Black Hawks in 1954-55 and was a fine two- way worker with Ed Litzenberger and Red Sullivan. He was picked up by the Detroit Red Wings halfway through the 1957-58 season and made his first playoff appearance in eight years. After playing 66 games for the club in 1958-59, he was acquired by the Boston Bruins where he played his last half season.
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07-16-2011, 04:38 PM
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Bob murdoch was an outstanding choice. He was next on my list for d-men but I don't think I would have been taking a d-man next.

Dude played a lot of minutes, and for very good teams too. Was the #4 behind three hhofers when the habs won the 1973 cup. He got norris/AS consideration in two seasons.
I didn't know about his minutes played stat or Norris consideration. I drafted him based on other merits in the AAA11:

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... defenseman Bob Murdoch, who began his 12-year NHL career with a deep Habs team, playing only 2 games in the 1971 Stanley Cup winning playoffs as a rookie but winning a starting job in 1972-73 with the Canadiens and scoring 24 points in 69 games and playing 13 postseason games on route to the Stanley Cup that year. Because of the depth of the Montreal blueline, he was traded to Los Angeles where he represented the Kings in the 1975 all-star game and became their leading all-time blueline point getter despite playing a conservative defense-first style. His good career plus-minus of +157 is impressive given his years on an expansion club. He went straight into a successful coaching career in 1982 after 278 points and 764 PIM in 757 games.



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