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01-19-2013, 04:46 PM
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Duclair and Erne suspended by the Quebec Remparts

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Veterans and the coaching staff of the Quebec Remparts felt that the time of individualism is over and this is why Anthony Duclair and Adam Erne were suspended internally, at least for a training and a game.
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"We believe that we are not all on the same page and what we want is a team concept, explained Patrick Roy. This is a life lesson for these young men and I hope they will grow out of it. They will not play Sunday, then we'll see. "
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Roy who demanded more leadership in the dressing room, believes it is his duty to support the suggestion of his seven veterans.

"My job is to support them and be with them, told Roy about its leaders. I want to collaborate with them and I will endorse their decision. At some point, the veterans can talk, if they (Erne and Duclair) do not listen, it becomes a problem."
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"We had already had a meeting, but this time, many things are out and we had to take this decision. Duclair took it very badly, but I do not know in the case of Erne. It is disappointing to have to live it, but in the end, this may be what will make us a better team. "
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Remparts' captain Martin Lefebvre added this. "We want everyone to play for the logo of the Remparts, he said. We will not accept people who think about their little person first. It is a message we want to send them. The problem is not new, but this is where we are now. It takes 20 players that push in the same direction. "
http://www.journaldequebec.com/2013/...erne-suspendus


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01-19-2013, 04:54 PM
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Well they are still kids. As Roy said, hope they learn from this.

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To me it becomes clearer each day that Roy is a terrible coach. His teams always under perform.

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I glimpsed bits of the Halifax game on TV, but didn't really watch it all. Were there any specific incidents, or have there been in recent games, or is this maybe just picking the lowest hanging fruit for fall-guys in the wake of such an embarrassing showing?

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To me it becomes clearer each day that Roy is a terrible coach. His teams always under perform.

His record as coach is amazing and include a memorial cup.


The kids learn to be professionals, it's the best thing that could happen to them.

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I glimpsed bits of the Halifax game on TV, but didn't really watch it all. Were there any specific incidents, or have there been in recent games, or is this maybe just picking the lowest hanging fruit for fall-guys in the wake of such an embarrassing showing?
Reading the article, it's more about their attitude on and off the ice and it's been a long time coming, the 11-2 loss was just the trigger. The veterans say they don't play for the team but for themselves. When 7 veterans decide something like this I guess the problem is real.

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His record as coach is amazing and include a memorial cup.


The kids learn to be professionals, it's the best thing that could happen to them.
Many prospect under is coaching have become dissapointment and where drafted later then when they where suppose to be originaly drafted. Grigorenko was drafted much later then most people tought, Angelo Esposito, Duclair is dropping fast. He won the memorial cup solely because of Radulov.

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To me it becomes clearer each day that Roy is a terrible coach. His teams always under perform.
Possibly... but it could also be completely the other way around. His teams could look better than they are because of his coaching and when his teams perform closer to their potential, it seems like he's not good enough. With that said, I just don't see the point with the subject at hand. It's not a suspension for not performing... no one suspends for that anyway.

Grigorenko has a chance to make it in the NHL right this year... that speaks much more than his draft rank. And his performances up are going to be the best way to find out, ranking is a very context-dependant thing.

If it was deserved, awesome, let it be a wake up call for both the two players and the team. If it wasn't, well, blah.

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His record as coach is amazing and include a memorial cup.


The kids learn to be professionals, it's the best thing that could happen to them.
Easier when you can pick up whoever you want at the draft and make some young guy change the NCAA-route for the Quebec Remparts...

He have a top-5 club each year and find a way to loose each year

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Many prospect under is coaching have become dissapointment and where drafted later then when they where suppose to be originaly drafted. Grigorenko was drafted much later then most people tought, Angelo Esposito, Duclair is dropping fast. He won the memorial cup solely because of Radulov.
I'm not a fan of Roy at all, but you have no idea of what you're talking about.

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I'm not surprised, Duclair had an ego in AAA.. Everyone knew it. David Hunter has always struck me as overconfident.

I didn't think Erne was like that...

To the OP.. Duclair is dropping because of his Hockey Sense and attitude. There has been questions about him being smart enough to play at the NHL level.. He has the skill.

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Just Remparts' plan to lower their draft stock and have them selected at the bottom of the first round

Vancouver will pick Erne and he will play full time in the Q


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I'm not surprised, Duclair had an ego in AAA.. Everyone knew it. David Hunter has always struck me as overconfident.

I didn't think Erne was like that...

To the OP.. Duclair is dropping because of his Hockey Sense and attitude. There has been questions about him being smart enough to play at the NHL level.. He has the skill.
If his hockey sense is that bad, why was his line in the Prospect game better than any other line and created more scorring chances (4) than anyone else???? Not my words, but the commentators....
I was at the games against Chicoutimi, Shawi and Val d'Or, he created so many chances for his line mates, they couldn't burry it pass the goalies.

Attitude, that I agree...... that was true of Crosby and so many other players as well..... He'll learn....

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I'm not surprised, Duclair had an ego in AAA.. Everyone knew it. David Hunter has always struck me as overconfident.

I didn't think Erne was like that...

To the OP.. Duclair is dropping because of his Hockey Sense and attitude. There has been questions about him being smart enough to play at the NHL level.. He has the skill.
IMO, the team as a whole is diverting the problem where it's not. They don't have an elite goalie, their Ds have no speed and Grigo is not there.....

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His hockey sense is better than a lot of people thinks. He just plays alone too much sometimes.

I guess the Evander Kane comparison is more and more evident.

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Just Remparts' plan to lower their draft stock and have them selected at the bottom of the first round

Vancouver will pick Erne and he will play full time in the Q

Conspiracy theorist..... Lol!!!! I like your thinking....

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His hockey sense is better than a lot of people thinks. He just plays alone too much sometimes.

I guess the Evander Kane comparison is more and more evident.
The kid has more passes than goals..... I don't understand your reasoning. Did you watch the Prospect game? He was creative and offered so many chances to score to his linemates...

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Reading the article, it's more about their attitude on and off the ice and it's been a long time coming, the 11-2 loss was just the trigger. The veterans say they don't play for the team but for themselves. When 7 veterans decide something like this I guess the problem is real.
Just checked with someone one from the inside..... Take it as is, this is second hand opinion, no way I can confirm....

It's a question of power struggle. The veterans lost respect from the young guns and there is jealousy towards the young guns. Grigo's presence was the ultimate stabilizer in the room, which is lacking right now.

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I'm not a fan of Roy at all, but you have no idea of what you're talking about.
I agree.....

People tend to forget that:

1) Esposito suffered 2 major knee injuries, was never the same player afterwards
2) Put Crosby with 2 plumbers and his production will suffer as well, not just Esposito.

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The truth will come out, but for now those 2 are paying the price.

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The truth will come out, but for now those 2 are paying the price.
I agree......

I was at the past 5-6 home games, they were "part" of the reason they lost, but not the entire problem.

Anyway, when teams are on a losing streak, this is what happens. I'm confident these 2 will respond well to the suspension and will come out even stronger.

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AErne et ADuclair seront de la formation cet apres midi vs Huskies au Colisee Pepsi.#Remparts


They're playing this afternoon now. WTF?!

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Wow... WTF ? I'm speechless.

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So yeah, Quebec's front office, coaching staff or whoever, are a bit of a joke.

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The Remparts pbp guy said they talked to their teammates and the group probably liked their reaction.

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