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LW John Gaudreau - Boston College, HE (2011, 104th overall, Calgary)

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07-13-2012, 05:09 PM
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I laughed uncontrollably at the jokesters who kept on replying with 'another' thinking they're the second coming of Mitch Hedberg.

You're not.

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07-13-2012, 07:32 PM
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Boston College does a heck of a job turning smaller players into NHLers...

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The same thread could be made about many players. For example, in "my" team,... jean-Gabriel Pageau.
But this thread wasn't made about Pageau. Feel free to make one if you like.

Also, Gaudreau >> Pageau.

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From all accounts at the prospect camp, he's been a close #2 to being the best player at camp behind Baertschi.
He's the definition of boom or bust. He'll be a superstar, or he'll never make the show. This kid has a lot of heart, I'm rooting for him.
or he'll be an average 2nd liner. Its not superstar or bust

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I heard they have this guy named Stan Bertshe.

Hes supposed to be a gem too, or something.

Apparently Johnny has been stellar at the Flames prospect camp so far.
Baertschi cannot be classified as a gem, he was drafted 13th overall...

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07-13-2012, 09:55 PM
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Obviously, a youtube clip doesn't express potential and even necessarily skill, but if you want to see a timely goal by an exciting player, this is it:



That said, it is still an uphill battle for him. It would be wonderful if he would grow a few more inches. If not, we'll just have to cross our fingers. World-class skill has shown to trump stature before.
Hah gotta love the announcer.

"He's tiny, he looks about 12 years old, but he......."

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07-15-2012, 04:43 AM
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or he'll be an average 2nd liner. Its not superstar or bust
Not with his skills.
If he makes then NHL, he's a star player.

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07-15-2012, 05:46 AM
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why are people being snarky about "another"? If you don't think baertschi is an elite prospect, you have no clue about developing prospects, plain and simple.

johnny g is coming in nicely. nice to see the flames drafted a guy based on skill and the ability to play hockey well, rather than coke machines. size DOESN'T MATTER if you can play hockey well, and johnny G has a high skill level.

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How does he compare in relation to our 2 small players, Rau and Grimaldi?

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How does he compare in relation to our 2 small players, Rau and Grimaldi?
He's better.

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Kyle Rau: 40 games played, 18 goals-43 points.
John Gaudreau: 44 games played, 21 goals, 44 points.

Seem close point wise, both PPG, or above in Rau's case, and both were freshmen last year.

Hope both pan out.

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07-15-2012, 12:09 PM
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Kyle Rau: 40 games played, 18 goals-43 points.
John Gaudreau: 44 games played, 21 goals, 44 points.

Seem close point wise, both PPG, or above in Rau's case, and both were freshmen last year.

Hope both pan out.
Just like to point out that Rau is also a year older then Johnny.

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07-15-2012, 12:21 PM
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Not a big enough sample size yet. If Jordan Schroeder had a tough time moving to the AHL at 5'9/180 when he could bench/leg press more than most guys at 6'2 I don't see how Gaudreau will smoothly transition into the NHL...

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07-15-2012, 12:24 PM
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Not a big enough sample size yet. If Jordan Schroeder had a tough time moving to the AHL at 5'9/180 when he could bench/leg press more than most guys at 6'2 I don't see how Gaudreau will smoothly transition into the NHL...
They are completely different players, Schroeder is more of a 2 way player, while JG is pure offensive. You can't compare the two.

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They are completely different players, Schroeder is more of a 2 way player, while JG is pure offensive. You can't compare the two.
Linus Omark?

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07-15-2012, 01:56 PM
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Truth be told, everyone has a player like Gaurdreau. Minnesota picked up Haula in the 7th because he's 'undersize' and he's been outstanding.

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Linus Omark?
That might be a better comparison my point is just because one 6'1 guy that is strong makes it doesn't mean all 6'1 guys that are strong will, and just because one 5'8 player is having a hard tome making it doesn't all others will. JG will have a lot of obstacles but he has the skill and talent to make it.

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07-15-2012, 02:01 PM
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Truth be told, everyone has a player like Gaurdreau. Minnesota picked up Haula in the 7th because he's 'undersize' and he's been outstanding.
Yes every team has an undersized player but Haula is 2 years older than JG and is just now breaking out.

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07-15-2012, 02:07 PM
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Can people drop the "way too small" label. You would think after Gionta, St. Louis, Gerbe, Desharnais, etc., that that stupid conventional wisdom would be eradicated. Being tiny does make your journey to the NHL more difficult, but it is still attainable.
It doesn't make it very easy to predict if they are a gem or not either. St Louis and DD where undrafted, the former only got a chance with his second team, the latter had to dominate at th ECHL level before he even got a 2 way contract with the Habs. Gio and Gerbe were mid-draft picks that also had to develop quite a deal ( and in Gionta's case, even after dominating at BC). Could Gaudreau succeed at being an NHLer? Certainly, but with the same caution that applies to all smallish prospects of his skill level.

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They are completely different players, Schroeder is more of a 2 way player, while JG is pure offensive. You can't compare the two.
I watched Johnny a lot this year and yes, he's an offensive dynamo but I wouldn't consider him a defensive liability. At the beginning of the year, yes his defense was far below par but by the end he became much much better. I don't think there's a better place for a drafted forward to develop defensive responsibility than BC. York simply does not tolerate it, just look at Kreider who couldn't get huge minutes until he developed it. Johnny ended up seeing his TOI cut a little bit in the middle of the season because of it. By the end of the year he was sooo much better. He'll never be a Patrice Bergeron type guy but his turnovers in the dzone went way down as the year progressed.

Hopefully he puts on another 20 lbs which isn't a stretch because of how small he came in but I think he'll be an impact NHLer. I kind of see him like a Mats Zuccarello type player but I actually think his hands are a bit better and better in the dzone. The good thing is Johnny is getting used to the physical contact now and the NHL style of play where as Zucc just seemed to small/brittle to play in it. Time will tell and hopefully he can bulk up a bit more than Zucc.

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^ I agree he wasn't a defensive liability but he is an offensive player my point was he doesn't compare to JS as they play completely different games.

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Yes every team has an undersized player but Haula is 2 years older than JG and is just now breaking out.
Not necessarily. Haula had really good seasons before this season. I believe he also had a bit of an injury bug before this season. But he has constantly had good seasons everywhere he has gone.

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Not necessarily. Haula had really good seasons before this season. I believe he also had a bit of an injury bug before this season. But he has constantly had good seasons everywhere he has gone.
True but his first season in U wasn't as good as JG's and didn't win the same calibre of awards for it.

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I personally don't have high expectations of any undersized players until they're proven.

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True but his first season in U wasn't as good as JG's and didn't win the same calibre of awards for it.
True but teams have players taken in the late round with good upside. It's just getting that upside together.

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