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07-11-2011, 06:00 PM
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Who is the better line 2 center

Anisimov or Stepan?

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07-11-2011, 06:03 PM
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Anisimov at this point in time but in the future Stepan should be just as good if not better.

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07-11-2011, 06:05 PM
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Anisimov or Stepan?

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Stepan is 2 years ahead of AA in terms of development. They basically had the same point production, last year. This is a big year for both, but I like AA to center Dubinsky and Callahan on the 2nd line. That said, Stepan is/will be the better player.

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Stepan is already the better player, imo.
Maybe if we consider only offense.

Anisimov is the more complete player at this point and it's not close.

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Stepan will probably end up the better line 2 option in the near future, but both are/will be capable 2nd line centers.

AA is clearly the better option now, though, no doubt.

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I think Anisimov is the better player today... I see Stepan being the better player long-term. - in fact, it wouldn't shock me if Stepan becomes the better player over the course of this year.

As for better 2nd line center? Whoever has better chemistry with the better players - in this case - Anisimov with Cally and Dubi.

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Stepan has way more skill
not even close

dubi and cally made anisimov look better then he is not saying he has no skill but not a #2 center 3line center is more his place

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07-11-2011, 06:12 PM
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Anisimov without a doubt, IMO.
He is no less hard working, and has better physical assets at this point.
Stepan might grow closer, but all things equal, in the short term, AA keeps this advantage.

Stepan has intangibles, and will improve these with experience.
But experience is also making AA better.

Larger edge to AA on physical points; very small edge to Stepan which gets larger with equal experience on non-physical.

On balance, AA, for at least the next 5 years.

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Stepan has way more skill
not even close
Wolski has more skill than Callahan, and yet Cally is the superior player by a mile.

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Maybe if we consider only offense.

Anisimov is the more complete player at this point and it's not close.
Agreed, but the gap will be closed in a year or two.

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They are both 2-3 tweeners now, but Anisimov is more polished. I expect Stepan to catch up this year. They will likely both get about 50 points and Stepan will look more comfortable.

The following year Stepan will become a 1/2 line tweener whereas Anisimov will max out as a solid second liner.

I see Anisimov scoring in the 50s and Stepan in the 60s.

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07-11-2011, 06:21 PM
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Stepan is much more decisive and a "go" player in the offensive zone. His job is to create and he did that in his rookie year playing mostly on a third line. His stock is rising and his potential is sky high right now.

Anisimov is better defensively because he's more of a typical 3rd line two-way "checking" center (although he passes up more hits than a good catholic girl at a grateful dead concert) who can put up 40ish points while playing defense-first hockey. That's extremely valuable to a championship team, but I don't see Anisimov ever putting up the offensive numbers that Stepan's going to be putting up in a few years.

Stepan reminds me of a mix beteween Patrice Bergeron and David Krejci. I'd love that to be our 2nd line center for the next decade, maybe even our 1st one day. I see Anisimov as our version of Jordan Staal for the Pens. An above-average 3rd line center who could easily play 2nd line C with the right wingers on the right team, but will succeed admirably in a 3rd line shut-down role playing against the opponents best players while still being able to produce offense when he gets a chance to.

I also have to add that if Anisimov didn't play with Dubinsky and Callahan last year, he wouldn't have sniffed 40 points. He simply didn't create enough on his own. That's not to say he won't improve in that area because he has significantly improved every year he's been in the pros. Best case scenario he's similar to a Nemchinov (the early years with the Rangers) who if he stays healthy can be a perennial 40-50 point center who makes life miserable for the other team's best players. If that's the production from your third line center, you're in fantastic shape, offensively.

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07-11-2011, 06:22 PM
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stepan was on like 50 diff line combo this year and still put out ok stats
anisimov was more stable with cally and dubi before they got hurt
and look at there stats

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Right now they are what they are. 2a & 2b centers.

In 4-5 years I can see Stepan giving NYR a reasonable reason to trade Richards when his contract value drops as well as his production. If Stepan develops into a 1c for us and Arty is without question a 2c then that gives us a reason & leverage other then "just cuz" to trade Richards and get better value in return for him.

Sorry, I just don't see Brad finishing his career in NY unless he is willing to take a reduced role in his later years like Modo did in Dallas. And if DS & AA reach their potential we wont "need" BR so much as want him still if the situtation is mutual.

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Great question. I sometimes think about which center that they would trade of the two IF Slats decided to dangle one to land a top line winger... Tough call and already looks like it will be 50/50 here.

Twist my arm and I'll take Stepan. Today? Anisimov by a hair.


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They're very different types of players, so it's difficult to answer the question. Right now Anisimov is better away from the puck and better in his own zone. You can already tell Stepan will be the better playmaker, it's his competitive advantage. Looking forward to seeing these two grow into their own.

Down a goal and faceoff in the opposing zone, give me Stepan.

Up a goal and faceoff in our own zone, give me Anisimov.

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I think if you pick one, you have to go Anisimov. Stepan is great for a young guy, but Anisimov is physically superior, more skilled, and better defensively.
Stepan I'd expect to be better offensive (marginally) and probably be a better leader.


The only way that I can really justify taking Stepan is if he explodes offensively.

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If Stepan is going to be a 2nd line C, then he better be working on his face-offs this summer.

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In the long run, there is no question that Stepan will be the better player. You really have to be in some major denial to realize that. He might even prove that this season. BUT... if you are going by what each has done in their career so far, then AA gets the nod... being such a reliable all-around player.

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right now i'd say AA is the #2 because of his chemsitry with dubinsky and callahan...long term i think stepan will become the #2, part of the reason for that is that AA is better defensively and is better suited for 3rd line checking role

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Anisimov right now

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Stepan's already at the least on the same level as Anisimov offensively, while Anisimov is the more complete player. I think that makes him a better fit at 2c and Anisimov at 3c, but I guess it will come down to what line combos work better (and no, I'm not saying that means Dubi-Ani-Cally MUST be a line, because that's not the case.)

At the end of the day I think Stepan will be the better hockey player.

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If Stepan is going to be a 2nd line C, then he better be working on his face-offs this summer.
I mean you can say the same for Anisimov.

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I hope Anisimov can work on his defense as I can see him being a good two way 2nd line player like Kesler without the intense goal scoring. You need 2 way players like him to win and I think offensively they are about even, so give my Artem.

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