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07-11-2011, 09:23 PM
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Most Well Rounded Players Ever

In all your years of watching hockey, who do you guys remember as being the most well rounded players you've seen? Guys who were good to great at everything.

I've only been watching hockey since I was about 10, which goes back to the Wings winning in 02 and the Avs the year before.

In that time, the most well rounded player I can think of is Pavel Datsyuk. Datsyuk is a great defensive player, a great offensive player, he can pass, he can dangle, he can hit, and he can score goals pretty well too. Datsyuk, at his best, is just the complete package and is the most well rounded player I've had the pleasure of watching.

How about you guys?

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Bobby Orr all alone as the best all around.

Gordie Howe
Jean Beliveau
Bryan Trottier

That's a good start.

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Bobby Orr

Gordie Howe
Stan Mikita
Bobby Clarke
Bryan Trottier
Sergei Fedorov

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Gordie Howe stands out in my mind. He could do anything for his team.

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Interesting question. I never saw Red Kelly play defence, to wit he was of All Star caliber & upon his trade to Toronto was moved to forward as a checker and absolutely excelled. Granted he's not as glamorous as a Datsyuk or an Orr, however in terms of the premise of your question as in being "well rounded" neither Bobby nor Pavel were ever used like that. Another guy that was a high scoring genius Center as a Junior was Derek Sanderson. Possibly the most under-rated player in NHL history, he played the role of defensive specialist in shutting down the top lines of the time, Boston overly rich at the time with scoring forwards like Espo & Hodge. Doug Gilmour was another "complete" player, equally proficient as a checking defensive specialist or threatening offensive forward. Dave Keon, Henri Richard, a bunch of forwards. Coffey. Leetch, Park, power offensive defencemen & a ton of shorthanded specialists. But for "overall"?. Id be taking a good hard look at Red Kelley my number one pick in that department.

For amusement sake, you might also want to consider the "antiques" section. Les Patrick of the Rangers in particular. Career as a superstar forward & sometimes defenceman; even donned the pads one night when as GM of the NYR his goalie got injured; stoned the Montreal Canadiens'.

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Bobby Clarke was the first guy to come to mind. Had great leadership skills, was tough as nails, dirty, and very talented.

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Sergei Federov.

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Once again. Show a player whose been used effectively as a Defenceman and a Forward. Two way players, be it Orr or Fetisov or whomever shouldnt count. "All Round" is all round. Talk about a player whose played both defence and offence. The pickins are slim.

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The demigod in my avatar is pretty well rounded. So was Michel Goulet.

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The demigod in my avatar is pretty well rounded. So was Michel Goulet.
So. That means what?. Movin to Montana Soon, Gonna be a Dental Floss Tycoon?.

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One has to master pretty much every aspect of the game in order to play wing, center and defense all at a high level,.
Gotta go with Fedorov.

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One has to master pretty much every aspect of the game in order to play wing, center and defense all at a high level,.
Gotta go with Fedorov.
Fine. You go with Fedorov "into a dark night" and I'll go with Red Kelley into "Sunshine & Blue Skys"',,, One of Johnny Bowers secrets....

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Players that have not been listed.

Jacques Lemaire, Alex Delvecchio. Both could play center and left wing bringing high quality offensive and defensive skills.

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Red Kelly, Gordie Howe, Ted Lindsay, Forsberg, Bathgate, Ullman, Mikita...

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Bobby Orr

Gordie Howe
Stan Mikita
Bobby Clarke
Bryan Trottier
Sergei Fedorov
Good list. All of the above were outstanding in any circumstance, most of them even being pretty good fighters.

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Good list. All of the above were outstanding in any circumstance, most of them even being pretty good fighters.
Agreed. The first guy that came to my mind was Federov. Not too many guys who can play F and D at such a level of competition and excel at both.

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Bobby Orr

Gordie Howe
Stan Mikita
Bobby Clarke
Bryan Trottier
Sergei Fedorov
Great list.

I would say Beliveau should be on the list as well.

In my opinion to be included on this list you have to be great on offense, defense, you must be tough and fight if need be and also bring leadership skills.

I think Fedorov though lacks the leadership and toughness.

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Once again. Show a player whose been used effectively as a Defenceman and a Forward. Two way players, be it Orr or Fetisov or whomever shouldnt count. "All Round" is all round. Talk about a player whose played both defence and offence. The pickins are slim.
Probably taking it to the extreme there. I don't think Kelly ever played in goal...

All around ability can be demonstrated at one position. And the best example of it is Orr.
Better offence than forwards, outstanding defensive ability and actually it could be argued he was great in goal judging by the number of shots he stopped/blocked.

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Trottier
Messier
Fedorov
Lindros
Schmidt

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Sergei Fedorov couldn't play defense as well as he could play forward. Red Kelly couldn't play forward as well as he could play defense.

Wade Belak played at exactly the same level no matter what position he played. He was a better fighter than those guys too. I think the answer is obvious.

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surely Mike Modano has got to be up there?

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Mike York. He got so round that it cost Him an NHL job.

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Immediately thought of Fedorov when I saw this title.

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Howe got this. Fedorov was really alround and so was Forsberg. Of the current players I say Datsyuk.

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