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07-12-2011, 10:57 PM
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The baby Pens have gotta be one of the biggest teams in pro hockey.

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07-12-2011, 11:07 PM
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In isolation, there's nothing wrong with the signing.
With both Godard and Rupp gone, we did lose quite a lot of size and toughness and in that situation I can get on board with having a specialist HW for special games.

I just don't understand why Shero feels a need to have this many players signed though? We now have enough forwards signed that we can make a lineup in which neither Jeffrey, Letestu, Tangradi, Vitale or Johnson have a place and I don't quite see why that is necessary.... or prudent - from an asset management point of view.

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07-12-2011, 11:26 PM
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In isolation, there's nothing wrong with the signing.
With both Godard and Rupp gone, we did lose quite a lot of size and toughness and in that situation I can get on board with having a specialist HW for special games.

I just don't understand why Shero feels a need to have this many players signed though? We now have enough forwards signed that we can make a lineup in which neither Jeffrey, Letestu, Tangradi, Vitale or Johnson have a place and I don't quite see why that is necessary.... or prudent - from an asset management point of view.
It's a two-way contract.

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07-12-2011, 11:42 PM
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It's a two-way contract.
That matters as little to my point as it does that Jeffrey is on a two-way contract. Neither can be sent down without being subject to waivers and Shero hardly added himself a HW to waive him immediately.

Again, I don't dispute that there's a point to signing Big Mac.

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07-12-2011, 11:48 PM
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Why do we need someone like this guy anyway?

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07-12-2011, 11:56 PM
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Unlike most of the heavy weights in the NHL, MacYntire plays the game clean and he's a great lockeroom guy. I'm sure you guys will love him.

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07-13-2011, 12:03 AM
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That matters as little to my point as it does that Jeffrey is on a two-way contract. Neither can be sent down without being subject to waivers and Shero hardly added himself a HW to waive him immediately.

Again, I don't dispute that there's a point to signing Big Mac.
It's a two-way contract.

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If he's worth it, he'll be playing in Pittsburgh.
If he isn't worth it, he won't be playing in Pittsburgh and he'll cost significantly less.

It's a two-way contract.

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Well hes certainly no Trevor Gilles

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It's a two-way contract.

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If he's worth it, he'll be playing in Pittsburgh.
If he isn't worth it, he won't be playing in Pittsburgh and he'll cost significantly less.

It's a two-way contract.
You're failing to see his point. We're pretty jumbled in the bottom six. Macintyre isn't going to be waived barring some idiotic incident. Shero loves having a heavyweight around, and for good reason. But with Jeffrey, Letestu, Johnson, Tangradi, Vitale, etc. fighting for spots with Dupuis, Asham, Adams, Cooke, Shero's going to have his work cut out for him after camp ends. Especially since most of the younger guys aren't waiver exempt anymore.

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07-13-2011, 12:41 AM
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You're failing to see his point. We're pretty jumbled in the bottom six. Macintyre isn't going to be waived barring some idiotic incident. Shero loves having a heavyweight around, and for good reason. But with Jeffrey, Letestu, Johnson, Tangradi, Vitale, etc. fighting for spots with Dupuis, Asham, Adams, Cooke, Shero's going to have his work cut out for him after camp ends. Especially since most of the younger guys aren't waiver exempt anymore.
Exactly!

Boocock... I dare you, I double dare you mutha****er, say two-way contract one more ******* time!

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07-13-2011, 12:43 AM
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Was a good hard hit. He's just ammo for the Islanders-type games I'm sure. I'll be surprised if he plays more than 20 games.

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he wears number 33.

i'm officially a fan because of this

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07-13-2011, 12:55 AM
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he wears number 33.

i'm officially a fan because of this
He should wear number 68.

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07-13-2011, 01:04 AM
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I'm not gonna lie, I'm glad Shero brought in a replacement for Godard.

I haven't seen many of MacIntyre's fights, but that one where he knocked Ivanans (sp) out for I believe the entire season ... what a heavy punch.


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I watched a few of his fights on youtube. What he lacks in boxing, he makes up for in sheer toughness. The guy doesn't go down.

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Just got home and saw this.....I'm ecstatic!

Yeah, he's not much of a hockey player.....but he was the best fighter available in free agency; and he actually got a pretty decent contract for whatever time he spends with the big club (which I'm sure will happen at some point). Welcome to Pittsburgh Big Mac!!!

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Just got home and saw this.....I'm ecstatic!

Yeah, he's not much of a hockey player.....but he was the best fighter available in free agency; and he actually got a pretty decent contract for whatever time he spends with the big club (which I'm sure will happen at some point). Welcome to Pittsburgh Big Mac!!!
You're ecstatic over a goon? Lol how random

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07-13-2011, 01:56 AM
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That matters as little to my point as it does that Jeffrey is on a two-way contract. Neither can be sent down without being subject to waivers and Shero hardly added himself a HW to waive him immediately.
It matters because it almost certainly means he couldn't get a one-way deal from any NHL team. If nobody wanted to guarantee a roster spot for him in the summer, I have a hard time believing it's a certainty that he'd be claimed on waivers. Shero probably wants a HW forward around, but it's ultimately Bylsma's decision. I have a hard time believing Shero would get in his way over Steve McIntyre, especially when there's a high probability he'd pass through waivers. I doubt the two-way contract is simply the formality you're making it out to be. Shero has historically made young players win their spots over veterans as opposed to just leaving roster spots open. I suspect McIntyre is that veteran competition. He's got a shot at this roster, but he's not a lock for it.

I had this concern last season when we had a few too many NHL forwards. Despite that, Mark Letestu established himself and Chris Conner spent most of the season here. Injuries are pretty much inevitable, so roster spots will always be opening. We have more than enough cap space to carry two extra forwards. Jeffrey is going to start the season out on the IR followed by a conditioning stint in WBS. Johnson and Vitale are unestablished players who aren't likely to be claimed on waivers at this point in their careers.

This is the sort of problem that is good to have because it will work itself out. The players that make this team the best will stick. If we have too many good players, then we have an extra trade asset to use before the season starts or at the deadline. It's really not a problem at all. McIntyre is just a flexible signing that could fill a need.

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Just got home and saw this.....I'm ecstatic!

Yeah, he's not much of a hockey player.....but he was the best fighter available in free agency; and he actually got a pretty decent contract for whatever time he spends with the big club (which I'm sure will happen at some point). Welcome to Pittsburgh Big Mac!!!
The best fighter that was available at the time signed with Dallas.

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07-13-2011, 04:21 AM
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It matters because it almost certainly means he couldn't get a one-way deal from any NHL team. If nobody wanted to guarantee a roster spot for him in the summer, I have a hard time believing it's a certainty that he'd be claimed on waivers. Shero probably wants a HW forward around, but it's ultimately Bylsma's decision. I have a hard time believing Shero would get in his way over Steve McIntyre, especially when there's a high probability he'd pass through waivers.
It is Bylsma's decision whether someone plays, not whether someone gets waived, and unless MacIntyre looks entirely worthless in camp, there is very little to suggest that he isn't going to be on the active roster on opening night. With what we know about Shero.

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I doubt the two-way contract is simply the formality you're making it out to be.
It isn't, and I am not. I certainly prefer MacIntyre to be one a two-way rather than one-way deal and for the Ryan Craigs and Chris Conners and Brett Sterlings of the world, having such guys on two-way contracts... excellent.

The difference with MacIntyre is that he is the kind of player that teams will keep on the active roster over better hockey players, because he is a specialist. His specialty being what brings him to the NHL in the first place. Then we can no doubt waive him at the deadline if we need some cap-room, and no one is going to cry if we did waive him and he got claimed in order to avoid having to waive someone valuable (like Jeffrey or Letestu) down.

It is not an issue to have one such guy though. I never claimed that my problem was with MacIntyre as such.
It is the fact that there are virtually no positions to play for in camp for the youngsters unless Shero is OK with trading away vets on one-ways. If he was disposed to do that, which so far we have little reason to think he is, I wouldn't be concerned about it.
However, having just signed Dupuis, Asham and Adams... he doesn't seem the person to immediately trade players who have just signed on what everyone believes to be significant discounts. Nor does Bylsma seem to be the kind of guy who would play the youngsters over these guys if he were in a position to choose.

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Shero has historically made young players win their spots over veterans as opposed to just leaving roster spots open. I suspect McIntyre is that veteran competition. He's got a shot at this roster, but he's not a lock for it.
Well, that is where we disagree. He is not on the roster to be competition for anyone. Nor was Godard. He is on the roster to fill a role that Shero has been rather explicit about wanting filled, and we have no one else to do so.

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This is the sort of problem that is good to have because it will work itself out. The players that make this team the best will stick. If we have too many good players, then we have an extra trade asset to use before the season starts or at the deadline. It's really not a problem at all. McIntyre is just a flexible signing that could fill a need.
It certainly isn't a big problem, and if our team wins the cup or is close, who cares about asset management or prospect development?

However, I am talking about asset management and in that respect it is a problem if there is no room for our better home-made guys even at camp several years running (and yes, I know about Letestu last year, but does he get any kind of chance if Staal had been ready? I don't think so).

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07-13-2011, 05:54 AM
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If he would play 20 games a season, just like Godard did last year, I'm fine with that ... I doubt Big Mac will be sent down, he will either play up here or will be scratched

And if he do this to Isles mutha******s, then ...




... Welcome to the Burgh BigMac

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Best fighter in the league, but cant skate for ****. Cant shoot or pass either. Hes a stand up guy though, class all the way.

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I agree Tender, people are hung up on "asset management". Who cares when you are inches from winning a cup, you do what gets you over. I do agree with Jeff that MacIntyre's waiver status will not come in play here, he would have signed a one-way if that was the case. On the other hand, why would you want Joe Vitale or Nick Johnson sitting in a press box when they could be playing hockey in WBS? Mac WILL be on the team. It just gives them flexability.

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