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07-04-2011, 01:50 AM
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Emelin's shot.

So, how good is Alexei Emelin's shot from the point ?

Looking at our roster for next season, he will pretty much have to be on one of the PP units.

It is said that he has a hard shot, but is it accurate ? Can he get the shot to the net through traffic ?

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07-04-2011, 02:06 AM
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11 goals suggests it's something he really added to his game last year.

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07-04-2011, 05:19 AM
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It would be awesome if its good since he's a left shot.

Markov-Emelin
Subban-Weber

Scary PP D pairings


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07-04-2011, 05:30 AM
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He's always had a pretty solid shot - but I read in another thread somewhere on here that he was going to be an amazing two-way defenseman. I don't see it.

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It would be awesome if its good since he's a left shot.

Markov-Emelin
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What?

You say that's it's good that he's a left, and then you place two RH shots and two LH shots together?

You completely lost me there.

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07-04-2011, 07:01 AM
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What?

You say that's it's good that he's a left, and then you place two RH shots and two LH shots together?

You completely lost me there.
That just means Emelin and Subban are facing the middle of the ice and will be the shooters...Nothing wrong with that...Markov needs a left shot paired with him.

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07-04-2011, 07:20 AM
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That just means Emelin and Subban are facing the middle of the ice and will be the shooters...Nothing wrong with that...Markov needs a left shot paired with him.
Yup. Historically Markov has done great paired with left handed shooters on the PP so they could one-time all these wonderful passes (lets reminisce about Schneider, Bergeron, Streit, Souray...).

Subban and Markov together on the first wave might not be as effective, since Markov's exceptional passing and vision wouldn't be used fully ; to have Subban one-time his passes they would have to be on their off-wings with Markov passing from the back hand.

It is true of course that at even strenght or shorthanded its better to have a LD and RD, I'm talking strictly about the PP here.

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07-04-2011, 07:49 AM
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Emelin's shot.

My goodness, is he ok?

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07-04-2011, 07:56 AM
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Yup. Historically Markov has done great paired with left handed shooters on the PP so they could one-time all these wonderful passes (lets reminisce about Schneider, Bergeron, Streit, Souray...).

Subban and Markov together on the first wave might not be as effective, since Markov's exceptional passing and vision wouldn't be used fully ; to have Subban one-time his passes they would have to be on their off-wings with Markov passing from the back hand.

It is true of course that at even strenght or shorthanded its better to have a LD and RD, I'm talking strictly about the PP here.
As I posted before, I have some doubts regarding habs PP next season. Not because of lack of talent but mainly because PK won't be able to unload his bombs from the left side. Why ? Because Markov is unable to play omn the right side during PP. He has made numerous turnovers in the past while trying in that position.

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You can get a good look at it in this handy video Watsatheo put together:



It doesn't look like a Wiz/Subban cannon for sure, but it's low and hard. He also seems to like moving in and pumping a wrister instead. There's some really great cross-ice feeds in that video that kind of remind me of Markov, not to mention some surprising rushes. A pretty tantalizing skill set no matter what.

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You can get a good look at it in this handy video Watsatheo put together:



It doesn't look like a Wiz/Subban cannon for sure, but it's low and hard. He also seems to like moving in and pumping a wrister instead. There's some really great cross-ice feeds in that video that kind of remind me of Markov, not to mention some surprising rushes. A pretty tantalizing skill set no matter what.
He's got a good wrister and he seems quite fast.

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07-04-2011, 08:19 AM
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My goodness, is he ok?
Amazing.

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My goodness, is he ok?
Hee hee.That was a pretty good one hog.

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As I posted before, I have some doubts regarding habs PP next season. Not because of lack of talent but mainly because PK won't be able to unload his bombs from the left side. Why ? Because Markov is unable to play on the right side during PP. He has made numerous turnovers in the past while trying in that position.
I think that's simply not true, the reason Markov got put on the right on the PP that year was because they wanted to use Tangauy as the set up man on the left side, so Markov basically had no options with the put once getting. I actually think our PP is going to be one of the best. Just think Markov is going to have two options for one timers on the PP, Subban on the left side, and Cammy on the half-way on the right side.

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My goodness, is he ok?
You made me chuckle

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He has a quick release, I like that.

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I think that's simply not true, the reason Markov got put on the right on the PP that year was because they wanted to use Tangauy as the set up man on the left side, so Markov basically had no options with the put once getting. I actually think our PP is going to be one of the best. Just think Markov is going to have two options for one timers on the PP, Subban on the left side, and Cammy on the half-way on the right side.
Yeah, our PP isn't really LD and RD, its more C in front of the net, LW also down low, RW high-right for one-timer, LD high-left for one-timer, RD in middle at blue line.

At least, thats how a Subban-lead PP looks. Subban-Markov can still work very well on the PP... which leaves Emelin with Weber. Which is fine with me. Watching that video, Emelin seems to like to make nifty passes almost as much as he shoots. Very Markov-esque. I think Markov-Emelin might be a case of similarly overlapping skillsets, which might not work all that well together (though Markov is able to adapt to pretty much anything).

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Yeah, our PP isn't really LD and RD, its more C in front of the net, LW also down low, RW high-right for one-timer, LD high-left for one-timer, RD in middle at blue line.

At least, thats how a Subban-lead PP looks. Subban-Markov can still work very well on the PP... which leaves Emelin with Weber. Which is fine with me. Watching that video, Emelin seems to like to make nifty passes almost as much as he shoots. Very Markov-esque. I think Markov-Emelin might be a case of similarly overlapping skillsets, which might not work all that well together (though Markov is able to adapt to pretty much anything).
Yemelin is way more physical and nasty than Markov.

Markov is more a Lidstrom type of player.

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Yemelin is way more physical and nasty than Markov.

Markov is more a Lidstrom type of player.
I'm only talking about offensive choices/preferences on the PP. Emelin likes to look for cross-ice passes and to slip in down low behind the D occasionally. Which is far more like Markov then 'gimme the damn puck so i can one-time a sick-azz shot' Subban.

In other aspects of their game they are decidedly different. Vastly so.

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You can get a good look at it in this handy video Watsatheo put together:



It doesn't look like a Wiz/Subban cannon for sure, but it's low and hard. He also seems to like moving in and pumping a wrister instead. There's some really great cross-ice feeds in that video that kind of remind me of Markov, not to mention some surprising rushes. A pretty tantalizing skill set no matter what.
What really impresses me is his decision making and vision. If he can translate that onto NA ground by adapting to the size/speed/style, then I think we'll have a better Dman than most people think.

I really hope it works out well with this one.

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i just watched that video yesterday haha he looks very good im very excited for next season!!

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As I said before, the Bruins are going to have a 3-D hate for him (the D stands for dimensional, by the way). He'll bang them, he'll skate into their end, and he'll score goals and assists. The only concern JM might have about him is penalties but if he flattens a few opponents it'll be worth it. If Komisarek was tolerable, (Y)Emelin will be more so because he's a better player.

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He has a quick release, I like that.
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Put him in front of the net on the PP, even Timothy won't be able to bodycheck him. BigBuff v.2.0

Honestly, yeah he does seem to have a nice wristshot and his shot is probably hard with his size. I don't think he'll see a lot of PP time though, but JM would probably want to experiment him on the point. Nothing to lose, he can't be worst than some d-men we put there...

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Everything, including his shot is a little head scratching for me......... What I mean is.....his offensive numbers are not that big of a deal.....he is supposed to be tough , but the only fight he has on you tube he gets knocked out. Not sure what to expect.

I'm hoping he is as great as everyone here makes him out to be, but I'm also thinking everyone here would flip and talk about how he's not that great if we suddenly traded him.

On a side note....that Svitov guy that punched Emelin out. What's his story and how did he play 30 games for the Bulldogs a few years back? How is he linked to the habs or maybe Edmonton I'm thinking.......

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