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11-06-2011, 09:58 AM
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Philadelphia & St. Louis

Philadelphia Trades

F - A. Nodl
D - B. Coburn

St. Louis Trades

F - J. Schwartz
D - I. Cole
D - R. Polak

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I love Coburn but I would do this deal in a heartbeat.

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I like Polak.

Can be a shutdown guy.

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I really don't like Coburn - he needs to go

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I really don't like Coburn - he needs to go
no way we're getting Schwartz, too good of a prospect

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To be honest, I have no idea who Cole and Schwartz are.

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I really don't like Coburn - he needs to go
From what, the 2-3 games you've seen this season?

Please. Coburn is what he is, if you're expecting more you haven't been watching.

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I'd do that trade without Schwartz. There's plenty of puck movers in Philadelphia. We need some defenders (outside of Pronger) that play with some snarl in their game and will make other teams regret going towards the net.

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I really don't like Coburn - he needs to go
what? why?

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Coburn gets locked up before the end of the season and stays a Flyer for 5 more years. /thread.

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You can have carle. No way coburn is going anywhere

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I like Ian Cole a ton, but I really doubt the Blues would ever do this move. Not real sure if I would do it either.

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The Blues would never do this

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The Blues don't touch this offer.

We need all of the included players.

Schwartz is our replacement for McDonald.

Cole has the potential to be the LD that we desperately need.

Polak is one of our few shutdown defenders.

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You can have carle. No way coburn is going anywhere
Everyone says that, but what does Coburn bring to the table? He's not a shutdown guy, he's not much of an offensive defenseman, and his play is inconsistent from game to game. Honestly, why does everyone like Coburn so much for? He's nothing more than an average number 5 guy on most teams. And every year, we keep hearing "he's going to be that stopper this team requires" or "he's finally turned the corner and he's going to be that dominant defensive defenseman this team needs." And every year, the guy does nothing but disappoint. It's time to cut losses and let him be someone else's problem. And when you consider he'll probably get 4 to 4.5 million a year, it's way too much for the job he does. Honestly, Coburn is nothing more than a poor man's Scott Hannan, just that Hannan has at least proven in his career he can be a stopper.

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Everyone says that, but what does Coburn bring to the table? He's not a shutdown guy, he's not much of an offensive defenseman, and his play is inconsistent from game to game. Honestly, why does everyone like Coburn so much for? He's nothing more than an average number 5 guy on most teams. And every year, we keep hearing "he's going to be that stopper this team requires" or "he's finally turned the corner and he's going to be that dominant defensive defenseman this team needs." And every year, the guy does nothing but disappoint. It's time to cut losses and let him be someone else's problem. And when you consider he'll probably get 4 to 4.5 million a year, it's way too much for the job he does. Honestly, Coburn is nothing more than a poor man's Scott Hannan, just that Hannan has at least proven in his career he can be a stopper.
I don't have the energy to argue this, but you're wrong. I know, horrible argument, but I really think this is glaringly obvious. His game isn't rounded i'll give you that, but that's going way too far. He'd be a welcome #3 and definitely #4 on quite a few teams in the league.

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I don't have the energy to argue this, but you're wrong. I know, horrible argument, but I really think this is glaringly obvious. His game isn't rounded i'll give you that, but that's going way too far.
I agree with him.

He is inconsistent. There isn't much there offensively and he is above average defensively. He would be more dominant if he used his size more consistently. He just isn't an aggressive player. His hockey sense is pretty low. Carle and Coburn are in their last years unless they take their games to another level this year. For what they are being paid being average isn't good enough.

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Philadelphia Trades

F - A. Nodl
D - B. Coburn

St. Louis Trades

F - J. Schwartz
D - I. Cole
D - R. Polak
I doubt the blues do this. Me, I like Coburn. But I do this deal if it was realistic.

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A couple of games back, everytime I saw coburn, he seemed like a bump on a log. He just doesn't show the intensity or passion I see from the other players.


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Everyone says that, but what does Coburn bring to the table? He's not a shutdown guy, he's not much of an offensive defenseman, and his play is inconsistent from game to game. Honestly, why does everyone like Coburn so much for? He's nothing more than an average number 5 guy on most teams. And every year, we keep hearing "he's going to be that stopper this team requires" or "he's finally turned the corner and he's going to be that dominant defensive defenseman this team needs." And every year, the guy does nothing but disappoint. It's time to cut losses and let him be someone else's problem. And when you consider he'll probably get 4 to 4.5 million a year, it's way too much for the job he does. Honestly, Coburn is nothing more than a poor man's Scott Hannan, just that Hannan has at least proven in his career he can be a stopper.
I agree with ya

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Coburn is a solid defenseman, I don't understand the hate. He was never going to be a top pairing guy. To say he's an average number 5 is hilarious.

If you were always expecting a number 1 defenseman out of him, well, that's your problem.

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By my reckoning Coburn would be at least the 3rd best defenseman on any other team not named Detroit.

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I agree with him.

He is inconsistent. There isn't much there offensively and he is above average defensively. He would be more dominant if he used his size more consistently. He just isn't an aggressive player. His hockey sense is pretty low. Carle and Coburn are in their last years unless they take their games to another level this year. For what they are being paid being average isn't good enough.
He's not being paid like a #1 defenseman, nor does he play like a bottom pairing one. I'm not saying he's a rock, but i'm also not being dramatic enough to call him a bottom pairing defenseman. (Because that's precisely what was inferred.)

He would be making far many more gaffs as a defenseman playing 20-21 minutes per night if he was simply your "average" bottom pairing defenseman.

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St. Louis would be high to offer this.

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Everyone says that, but what does Coburn bring to the table? He's not a shutdown guy, he's not much of an offensive defenseman, and his play is inconsistent from game to game. Honestly, why does everyone like Coburn so much for? He's nothing more than an average number 5 guy on most teams. And every year, we keep hearing "he's going to be that stopper this team requires" or "he's finally turned the corner and he's going to be that dominant defensive defenseman this team needs." And every year, the guy does nothing but disappoint. It's time to cut losses and let him be someone else's problem. And when you consider he'll probably get 4 to 4.5 million a year, it's way too much for the job he does. Honestly, Coburn is nothing more than a poor man's Scott Hannan, just that Hannan has at least proven in his career he can be a stopper.
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I don't have the energy to argue this, but you're wrong. I know, horrible argument, but I really think this is glaringly obvious. His game isn't rounded i'll give you that, but that's going way too far. He'd be a welcome #3 and definitely #4 on quite a few teams in the league.
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I agree with him.

He is inconsistent. There isn't much there offensively and he is above average defensively. He would be more dominant if he used his size more consistently. He just isn't an aggressive player. His hockey sense is pretty low. Carle and Coburn are in their last years unless they take their games to another level this year. For what they are being paid being average isn't good enough.
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A couple of games back, everyone I saw coburn, he seemed like a bump on a log. He just doesn't show the intensity or passion I see from the other players.
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Coburn is a solid defenseman, I don't understand the hate. He was never going to be a top pairing guy. To say he's an average number 5 is hilarious.

If you were always expecting a number 1 defenseman out of him, well, that's your problem.
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By my reckoning Coburn would be at least the 3rd best defenseman on any other team not named Detroit.
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He's not being paid like a #1 defenseman, nor does he play like a bottom pairing one. I'm not saying he's a rock, but i'm also not being dramatic enough to call him a bottom pairing defenseman. (Because that's precisely what was inferred.)

He would be making far many more gaffs as a defenseman playing 20-21 minutes per night if he was simply your "average" bottom pairing defenseman.


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