It's not about the hit on Pacioretty. It's about what we had to face afterward. Maybe some of you don't mind getting humiliated and laughed at. For my part, I've been raised to respond to someone who steps on my toes. Especialy if something like this happens. Same thing when Price got crosschecked and we were all there watching and doing **** all about it. It is NOT acceptable to not respond/retaliate to these acts.
Cheapshots are always aimed to the best and in the end, the bests keep winning.
It is true that the goons with the Bruins didn't stop Horton from getting hurt. But did you see what happened after? This hit might have given them the cup. They played harder, tougher, faster and came back from 0-2 to win the cup. Anyway...
Last edited by OpenIceHit: 07-14-2011 at 09:49 AM.
Not even. Somebody other than Gomez should've stuck up for Patches. Nobody did. I don't agree with bench clearing but I would've agreed with Moen or White taking even a 5-10 game suspension to just get off the bench skate up to Chara before he even sees the gloves are dropped sucker punch him, cheap shot him on the way down as well and just beat the living piss out of him. Maybe slew foot his ass and just kick his ass.
It would have been worth even 10 games. Then again though nothing would've brought Pacioretty back.
I'm sure Moen would take issue with losing 180K in salary and getting his ass kicked by Chara.
I'm sure Moen would take issue with losing 180K in salary and getting his ass kicked by Chara.
That is a valid point but something tells me if Jacques would've allowed it one of White/Moen would have sucked it up. Plus 10 games seems like a stretch.
That is a valid point but something tells me if Jacques would've allowed it one of White/Moen would have sucked it up. Plus 10 games seems like a stretch.
Leaving the bench is an automatic 10 games though. And if a player left the bench and successfully sucker-punched a superstar player, you could be sure the league would bump it up to 15-20.
On the other hand, had that actually happened it would have almost certainly forced the league to suspend Chara just for the optics of the whole affair.
Pacioretty makes 'weird' successful step in recovery
Thursday, 07.14.2011 / 10:08 AM / 2011 Offseason News
By Emily Kaplan -
STAMFORD, Conn. -- It felt "weird." That was the only way Max Pacioretty could describe it.
It's been more than four months since Pacioretty suffered a season-ending fractured vertebra on a hit by Boston's Zdeno Chara. Pacioretty hasn't played competitive hockey since then.
On Wednesday, the 22-year-old Montreal Canadiens left wing made a giant step in his recovery. Pacioretty suited up for a full 60-minute contest at Terry Conners Rink for the Big Assist annual charity hockey game. It benefits the Obie Harrington-Howes Foundation, which works to improve the quality of life for people with spinal cord injuries and diseases.
Pacioretty skated on a line with Tampa Bay's Martin St. Louis and Matt Moulson of the New York Islanders, and he didn't miss a shift. He skated well, even picking up a goal and a few assists.
Leaving the bench is an automatic 10 games though. And if a player left the bench and successfully sucker-punched a superstar player, you could be sure the league would bump it up to 15-20.
On the other hand, had that actually happened it would have almost certainly forced the league to suspend Chara just for the optics of the whole affair.
If the bench clears, does the entire roster get 10 games?
I miss old time hockey, when teammates didn't have to sit by and watch each other get slaughtered without being able to do **** about it.
While there seems to be less fighting, the hits are getting dirtier and dirtier and the level of respect is almost non existent.
Exactly! This is the kind of humiliation I don't want to see next season. It was so frustrating to watch.
What the hell is this, so having a player on your team break his neck on a dirty play is "humiliating"?
Even for people crying over toughness, humiliating is not the word to describe what happened to Pacioretty, this wasn't a typical Boston "bully picking on the little kid" type of play.
No goon in the history of the NHL would have stopped Chara from making the decision that he did on that night.
Uhmmm, if Mr Laraque was on the ice that hit would not have happened. Chara used to run from Big Goerge like a little school girl.......LOL.....Ahhh those were the days.
Uhmmm, if Mr Laraque was on the ice that hit would not have happened. Chara used to run from Big Goerge like a little school girl.......LOL.....Ahhh those were the days.
Why would Laraque be on the same line as Max Pacioretty?
What the hell is this, so having a player on your team break his neck on a dirty play is "humiliating"?
Even for people crying over toughness, humiliating is not the word to describe what happened to Pacioretty, this wasn't a typical Boston "bully picking on the little kid" type of play.
It's not about the hit!!! Humiliating is what we had to endure during the 3rd period!!
The second most interesting thing about the Pacioretty hit was Mark Recchi calling Max a faker, passively insulting the Canadiens' medical professionals in the process, and receiving nothing but accolades from the Boston media . To this day, Boston fans still tweet Max hate based off of Recchi's stupidity.
For Max to have responded to Horton's injury with class, dignity, and humanity was really something, especially when Boston's handling of the Horton injury was very similar to the things they criticized the Canadiens for.
Recchi claimed he'd apologize to the Canadiens' medical professionals - given that they used to bust their butts treating him only to have him attack their professional practice, but Stubbs said he never did. Too bad he doesn't have the stones to apologize to Max, and it's amazing how much you can learn about the Canadiens and Bruins organizations by reading between the lines on that whole affair.
If the bench clears, does the entire roster get 10 games?
I miss old time hockey, when teammates didn't have to sit by and watch each other get slaughtered without being able to do **** about it.
While there seems to be less fighting, the hits are getting dirtier and dirtier and the level of respect is almost non existent.
According to wiki:
"In the National Hockey League the penalties include, in addition to in-game penalties, an automatic 10-game suspension and a fine of $10,000[1] for the first player to leave his bench or the penalty box to participate in a brawl; for the second player to leave his bench or the penalty box, the penalties include, in addition to in-game penalties, an automatic five-game suspension and a fine of $5,000."
So if an entire team were to leave the bench? I guess the first two get the book thrown at them and the rest get off scot-free. But I imagine the organizations would be heavily penalized.
And ya, I miss the bench clearing brawls too. Found them more exciting than most of the staged crap we get these days. They actually meant something.
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The organization would pay him under the table I am sure.
If I was on the ice and Chara did that to a teammate of mine, I would have carved his face with my stick.
And the NHL would inevitably find out and probably fine them immensely and strip them of draft picks.
It's not about the hit!!! Humiliating is what we had to endure during the 3rd period!!
No it wasn't, it was pure stupidity on their part and embarrassing that they'd sink to such levels. Even more embarrassing on the part of the NHL and the media that a) Chara didn't get suspended, and b) The media failed to make a bigger deal about the bush league refereeing in this sport, and the fact that these neanderthals are trying to start fights over nothing 20 minutes after someone was carried off on a stretcher.
I would've liked to see Chara get his face caved in as well, but everyone seems to be putting the blame on Montreal for not "stepping up", and failing to realise the morons on the other team.
The biggest slap in the face was seeing those turd win.........
It was like a friggin` bad dream watching them win....But lets face it, Roy won us a cup in 1993 that we had no business winning and Thomas did the same for his team.
"In the National Hockey League the penalties include, in addition to in-game penalties, an automatic 10-game suspension and a fine of $10,000[1] for the first player to leave his bench or the penalty box to participate in a brawl; for the second player to leave his bench or the penalty box, the penalties include, in addition to in-game penalties, an automatic five-game suspension and a fine of $5,000."
So if an entire team were to leave the bench? I guess the first two get the book thrown at them and the rest get off scot-free. But I imagine the organizations would be heavily penalized.
And ya, I miss the bench clearing brawls too. Found them more exciting than most of the staged crap we get these days. They actually meant something.
Thanks for the info.
They did mean something and they didn't happen often, only when something like this happened. When an opponent's lack of respect caused serious injury. The lessons were taught and people moved on.
Laraque was useless but it's Komisarek who challenged Lucic both times if I remember correctly. I guess he was fed up of being called a *****.
But I thought having enforcers prevented cheapshots/players targeting other players? So what you're saying is that having Laraque on the team didn't scare Lucic away from Komisarek game in game out.
