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07-14-2011, 08:10 AM
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Schedule Breakdowns

Here's Adriondack. There are some pretty obvious oddities here.... Anything else pop up anywhere?

Here’s the breakdown of Adirondack’s schedule (the Devils have yet to release a breakdown):

EASTERN CONFERENCE

Northeast Division (12/12)
Albany Devils (NJ) (5/5)
Bridgeport Sound Tigers (NYI) (3/3)
Connecticut Whale (NYR) (2/2)
Springfield Falcons (CLB) (2/2)

East Division (16/16)
Binghamton Senators (OTT) (4/4)
Hershey Bears (WSH) (2/2)
Norfolk Admirals (TB) (4/4)
Syracuse Crunch (ANA) (5/5)
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins (PIT) (1/1)

Atlantic Division (6/6)
Manchester Monarchs (LA) (2/2)
Portland Pirates (PHX) (2/2)
Providence Bruins (BOS) (1/1)
Worcester Sharks (SJ) (1/1)

WESTERN CONFERFENCE
North Division (4/4)
Hamilton Bulldogs (MTL) (1/1)
Rochester Americans (BUF) (2/2)
Toronto Marlies (TOR) (1/1)

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So, let me get this straight, the Phantoms play more games against the East Division than they do against their own division? Plus, they play 8 games against the NorAds, but only 4 times against Connecticut and Springfield??? If they aren't even going to play a balanced schedule within the division, what's the point of having divisions?

However, how weird is it to see the Phantoms only play Hershey 4 times and WB/S twice?

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CT/Hartford:

Full list of home opponents:

St. John's (Winnipeg) - 2x

Portland (Phoenix) - 4x

Manchester (Los Angeles) - 3x

Worcester (San Jose) - 2x

Providence (Boston) - 4x

Springfield (Columbus) - 6x

Bridgeport (NY Islanders) - 5x

Albany (New Jersey) - 2x

Adirondack (Philadelphia) - 2x

Syracuse (Anaheim) -1x

Binghamton (Ottawa) - 1x

Wilkes-Barre/Scranton (Pittsburgh) - 2x

Hershey (Washington) - 2x

Norfolk (Tampa Bay) - 2x

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Here is the Heat's schedule:

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The Heat will play each team in the West Division four times at home and four times away.

Midwest Division:
Charlotte Checkers (CAR)
Milwaukee Admirals (NSH)
Peoria Rivermen (STL)
Rockford Ice Hogs (CHI)
Chicago Wolves (VAN)

The Heat will play each team in the Midwest Division twice home and twice away, with the exception of the Chcago Wolves, who will play the HEAT four times at home and four times away.

North Division:
Grand Rapids Griffins (DET)
Lake Erie Monsters (COL)
Rochester Americans (BUF)
Hamilton Bulldogs (MTL)
Toronto Marlies (TOR)

The Heat will play each team in the North Division twice home and twice away.

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Here's Hershey's

East Division games:

Binghamton Senators (4/4)

Norfolk Admirals (5/5)

Syracuse Crunch (3/3)

Wilkes-Barre/Scranton (6/6)

Eastern Conference games:

Adirondack Phantoms (2/2)

Albany Devils (2/2)

Bridgeport Sound Tigers (2/2)

Connecticut Whale (2/2)

Manchester Monarchs (2/2)

Portland Pirates (1/1)

Providence Bruins (1/1)

St. John's (2/2)

Springfield Falcons (1/1)

Worcester Sharks (1/1)

Western Conference games:

Charlotte Checkers (2/2)

Lake Erie Monsters (1/1)

Rochester Americans (1/1)

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Here is Peoria's breakdown:

"Their most frequent rivals will be the Milwaukee Admirals and the Rockford IceHogs who they will play 12 times each. They will meet Chicago 10 times and the newest member of the Western Conference – Charlotte – eight times.

They will continue to see every team in the Western Conference with the exception of the Rochester Americans. Peoria will play 22 games against the West Division (San Antonio: 6, Houston: 4, Texas: 4, Oklahoma City: 4, Abbotsford: 4) and will face the North Division 12 times (Grand Rapids: 4, Lake Erie: 4, Hamilton: 2, Toronto: 2)."

That's pretty much how I expected it. It's another year of not seeing anybody from the Eastern Conference. That's disappointing but not unexpected. If they are going to a conference wide playoff format, they should have each team play similar numbers of out of conference opponents. I know it's not going to happen, but it does seem unfair.

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Atlantic Division (21/21)
Manchester Monarchs (LA) (6/6)
Worcester Sharks (SJ) (6/6)
Providence Bruins (BOS) (5/5)
St. John's (WPG) (4/4)

Northeast Division (13/13)
Adirondack Phantoms (PHI) (2/2)
Albany Devils (NJ) (0/0)
Bridgeport Sound Tigers (NYI) (3/3)
Connecticut Whale (NYR) (4/4)
Springfield Falcons (CLB) (4/4)

East Division (4/4)
Binghamton Senators (OTT) (1/1)
Hershey Bears (WSH) (1/1)
Norfolk Admirals (TB) (0/0)
Syracuse Crunch (ANA) (0/0)
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins (PIT) (2/2)

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Western Division
Texas Stars 5/ 5
Houston Aeros 4/4
San Antonio Rampage 4/4
Abbotsford Heat 4/4

Midwest Division
Charlotte Checkers 4/4
Peoria Rivermen 2/2
Rockford IceHogs 2/2
Milwaukee Admirals 2/2
Chicago Wolves 1/1

Northern Division
Grand Rapids Griffins 4/4
Rochester Americans 2/2
Lake Erie Monsters 2/2
Hamilton Bulldogs 1/1
Toronto Marlies 1/1

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Since the Wolves will most likely be among the last to release their opponents, let's cobble together their schedule based on everyone else. Here is what we got so far...

Rockford IceHogs 6/6
Peoria Rivermen 5/5
Abbotsford Heat 4/4
Charlotte Checkers 4/4
San Antonio Rampage 2/2
Texas Stars 2/2
Hamilton Bulldogs 1/1
OKC Barons 1/1

Total so far = 50/76

Based on what we have so far, I'll wager that the rest of the schedule looks like this...

Milawukee Admirals 6/6
Grand Rapids Griffins 2/2
Houston Aeros 2/2
Lake Erie Monsters 2/2
Toronto Marlies 1/1


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Here is the Charlotte Checkers schedule
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The schedule format is as follows (NHL affiliate) [Home/Away]:

WESTERN CONFERENCE
Midwest Division
Chicago Wolves (VAN) [4/4]
Milwaukee Admirals (NSH) [4/4]
Peoria Rivermen (STL) [4/4]
Rockford IceHogs (CHI) [4/4]

West Division
Abbotsford Heat (CGY) [2/2]
Houston Aeros (MIN) [2/2]
Oklahoma City Barons (EDM) [4/4]
San Antonio Rampage (FLA) [2/2]
Texas Stars (DAL) [2/2]

North Division
Grand Rapids Griffins (DET) [2/2]
Lake Erie Monsters (COL) [2/2]

EASTERN CONFERENCE
Hershey Bears (WSH) [2/2]
Norfolk Admirals (TBL) [4/4]

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Here is the Hamilton Bulldogs schedule
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2011-2012 Hamilton Bulldogs Opponents
NORTH DIVISION
Grand Rapids Griffins (DET) – 5 home / 5 away
Lake Erie Monsters (COL) – 4 home / 4 away
Rochester Americans (BUF) – 5 home / 5 away
Toronto Marlies (TOR) – 6 home / 6 away
MIDWEST DIVISION
Chicago Wolves (VAN) – 1 home / 1 away
Milwaukee Admirals (NSH) – 1 home / 1 away
Peoria Rivermen (STL) – 1 home / 1 away
Rockford IceHogs (CHI) – 1 home / 1 away
WEST DIVISION
Abbotsford Heat (CGY) – 2 home / 2 away
Houston Aeros (MIN) – 1 home / 1 away
Oklahoma City Barons (EDM) – 1 home / 1 away
San Antonio Rampage (FLA) – 1 home / 1 away
Texas Stars (DAL) – 1 home / 1 away
ATLANTIC DIVISION
St. John’s (WPG) – 4 home / 4 away
NORTHEAST DIVISION
Adirondack Phantoms (PHI) – 1 home / 1 away
Albany Devils (NJ) – 1 home / 1 away
EAST DIVISION
Binghamton Senators (OTT) – 1 home / 1 away
Syracuse Crunch (ANA) – 1 home / 1 away

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http://www.amerks.com/news/index.html?article_id=1926Here is the Rochester Amerks schedule:

Interesting note on this one, I think Rochester will be at a distinct disadvantage for making the playoffs. They are going to play 30 games in the Eastern Conference, meaning that they are going to need help in the way of other Western Conference teams beating the teams that they are fighting with for a playoff spot. Think of it this way, if those 30 games were against Conference opponents, they would have more of a chance of controlling their own destiny by being able to beat teams that would be ahead of them in the standings.

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Below is a complete breakdown of the Amerks’ opponents for the upcoming season:

Western Conference
vs. North Division
Grand Rapids 6 (3 home, 3 road)
Hamilton 10 (5 home, 5 road)
Lake Erie 6 (3 home, 3 road)
Toronto 10 (5 home, 5 road)
Totals - 32

vs. West Division
Abbotsford 4 (2 home, 2 road)
Houston 2 (1 home, 1 road)
Oklahoma City 4 (2 home, 2 road)
San Antonio 2 (1 home, 1 road)
Texas 2 (1 home, 1 road)
Totals - 14

vs. Midwest Division
Charlotte 0
Chicago 0
Milwaukee 0
Peoria 0
Rockford 0
Totals - 0
Western Conference Totals - 46

Eastern Conference
vs. Atlantic Division
Manchester 0
Portland 0
Providence 0
St. John’s 0
Worcester 0
Totals - 0

vs. Northeast Division
Adirondack 4 (2 home, 2 road)
Albany 4 (2 home, 2 road)
Bridgeport 0
Connecticut 0
Springfield 0
Totals - 8

vs. East Division
Binghamton 8 (4 home, 4 road)
Hershey 2 (1 home, 1 road)
Norfolk 0
Syracuse 10 (5 home, 5 road)
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton 2 (1 home, 1 road)
Totals - 22
Eastern Conference Totals - 30

Total Games - 76


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Here are the Rockford IceHogs opponents:

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Rockford will play in the AHL’s Midwest Division, which will feature the Charlotte Checkers, Chicago Wolves, Milwaukee Admirals and Peoria Rivermen. Of the 76 games on Rockford’s 2011-12 slate, 44 of them will be against the Midwest Division, including 12 each against Chicago, Milwaukee and Peoria, including six at home and six on the road.

Charlotte, which was moved to the Western Conference, will face-off against Rockford eight times. The Checkers will be the only new opponent on Rockford’s upcoming schedule.

The IceHogs will play two home and two road games against each team in the AHL’s West Division including the Abbotsford Heat, Houston Aeros, Oklahoma City Barons, San Antonio Rampage and Texas Stars.

Four North Division opponents round out Rockford’s schedule with four games against both the Grand Rapids Griffins and Lake Erie Monsters and a home-and-home set against the Hamilton Bulldogs and Toronto Marlies.

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Here is the San Antonio Rampage's schedule:

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North Division
Team Home Games Away Games
Grand Rapids Griffins
2 home
2 away
Hamilton Bulldogs 1 home
1 away
Lake Erie Monsters 2 home
2 away
Rochester Americans 1 home
1 away
Toronto Marlies 1 home
1 away
Midwest Division
Team Home Games Away Games
Charlotte Checkers 2 home
2 away
Chicago Wolves 2 home
2 away
Milwaukee Admirals 2 home
2 away
Peoria Rivermen 3 home
3 away
Rockford IceHogs 2 home
2 away
West Division
Team Home Games Away Games
Abbotsford Heat 4 home
4 away
Houston Aeros
6 home
6 away
Oklahoma City Barons
4 home
4 away
San Antonio Rampage
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Texas Stars 6 home
6 away

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Here is the Texas Stars schedule of opponents:

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A full listing of games, home and away, can be seen listed below:

West Division games:
Houston Aeros (6/6)
San Antonio Rampage (6/6)
Oklahoma City Barons (5/5)
Abbotsford Heat (2/2)

Midwest Division games:
Chicago Wolves (2/2)
Milwaukee Admirals (2/2)
Peoria Rivermen (2/2)
Rockford Ice Hogs (2/2)
Charlotte Checkers (2/2)

North Division games:
Grand Rapids Griffins (2/2)
Hamilton Bulldogs (1/1)
Lake Erie Monsters (2/2)
Rochester Americans (1/1)
Toronto Marlies (1/1)

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It almost looks like they filled out the whole schedule, but left the NE division and Hamilton to fill in the blanks with.

I also see why there are complaints about seeing the same teams now, some of the west teams who see three teams 10+ times, that would get old. Albany and ADK see each other 10 times (I wouldn't mind 12), Syracuse 10 times, then 13 and 14 other teams between 2 and 8 times, which seems about right. Any more and you forget who you saw, and fewer teams would get old.

Here's Pete Dougherty's take on the Devs opponents:

EASTERN CONFERENCE
Northeast Division
Adirondack (5/5)
Bridgeport (3/3)
Springfield (2/2)
Connecticut (2/2)

East Division
Hershey (2/2)
Wilkes Barre (2/2)
Norfolk (4/4)
Binghamton (4/4)
Syracuse (5/5)

Atlantic Division
Manchester (1/1)
Providence (2/2)
Worcester (2/2)

WESTERN CONFERENCE
Northern Division
Rochester (2/2)
Hamilton (1/1)
Toronto (1/1)

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Just based on reading these posts Milwaukee's will be something like this.

Chicago - 6/6 (not official but just seems likely based on the rivalry)
Peoria - 6/6
Rockford - 6/6
Charlotte - 4/4
Oklahoma City - 2/2
Abbotsford - 2/2
San Antonio - 2/2
Texas - 2/2

That's 62 games so 14 games left to fill. I'll guess they go like this.

Toronto - 1/1
Grand Rapids - 4/4
Lake Erie - 2/2

Yay variety!

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It almost looks like they filled out the whole schedule, but left the NE division and Hamilton to fill in the blanks with.

I also see why there are complaints about seeing the same teams now, some of the west teams who see three teams 10+ times, that would get old. Albany and ADK see each other 10 times (I wouldn't mind 12), Syracuse 10 times, then 13 and 14 other teams between 2 and 8 times, which seems about right. Any more and you forget who you saw, and fewer teams would get old.

Here's Pete Dougherty's take on the Devs opponents:

EASTERN CONFERENCE
Northeast Division
Adirondack (5/5)
Bridgeport (3/3)
Springfield (2/2)
Connecticut (2/2)

East Division
Hershey (2/2)
Wilkes Barre (2/2)
Norfolk (4/4)
Binghamton (4/4)
Syracuse (5/5)

Atlantic Division
Manchester (1/1)
Providence (2/2)
Worcester (2/2)

WESTERN CONFERENCE
Northern Division
Rochester (2/2)
Hamilton (1/1)
Toronto (1/1)
No games against Portland or St. John's, but games against Hamilton & Toronto make up for that.

Too many games against Syracuse, ugh.

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Just based on reading these posts Milwaukee's will be something like this.

Chicago - 6/6 (not official but just seems likely based on the rivalry)
Peoria - 6/6
Rockford - 6/6
Charlotte - 4/4
Oklahoma City - 2/2
Abbotsford - 2/2
San Antonio - 2/2
Texas - 2/2

That's 62 games so 14 games left to fill. I'll guess they go like this.

Toronto - 1/1
Grand Rapids - 4/4
Lake Erie - 2/2

Yay variety!
I think you can that 4/4 with Grand Rapids and split it with Houston so that it 2/2 with the Griffins and 2/2 with the Aeros. At least that is one more team you get to see.

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Was going to add Houston and forgot them. So yeah you're probably right.

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SPRINGFIELD FALCONS
http://www.falconsahl.com/index.php?id=1803

Connecticut - 6/6
Bridgeport - 4/4
Adirondack - 2/2
Albany - 2/2

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Providence - 5/5
Worcester - 4/4
Portland - 4/4
Manchester - 3/3
St John's - 2/2

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W-B/Scranton - 2/2
Norfolk - 2/2
Syracuse - 1/1
Hershey - 1/1
Binghamton - 0/0

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No Western Conference games


My take:
Pretty silly to be playing more games against a different division than your own. As pelts35.com pointed out, why bother with divisions? And, they couldn't possibly give up a Provy game to bring the Calder Cup champions in town just once?

Overall, a very lame effort by all league members. As usual.

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Just based on reading these posts Milwaukee's will be something like this.

Chicago - 6/6 (not official but just seems likely based on the rivalry)
Peoria - 6/6
Rockford - 6/6
Charlotte - 4/4
Oklahoma City - 2/2
Abbotsford - 2/2
San Antonio - 2/2
Texas - 2/2

That's 62 games so 14 games left to fill. I'll guess they go like this.

Toronto - 1/1
Grand Rapids - 4/4
Lake Erie - 2/2

Yay variety!
Twelve of fourteen conference opponents, if you are correct. No Rochester (again) or Hamilton.

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No games against Portland or St. John's, but games against Hamilton & Toronto make up for that.

Too many games against Syracuse, ugh.
Try playing 12 against Chicago.

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Try playing 12 against Chicago.
It's an ugly schedule for the Midwest Division. Peoria, Milwaukee, Chicago, and Rockford all play 34-36 games against each other. It doesn't look like the West Division is much better. I'm not saying every team needs to play each other, but there has to be a better way. As a season ticket holder, it's crappy to see three teams take up half of the home games each year.

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It's an ugly schedule for the Midwest Division. Peoria, Milwaukee, Chicago, and Rockford all play 34-36 games against each other. It doesn't look like the West Division is much better. I'm not saying every team needs to play each other, but there has to be a better way. As a season ticket holder, it's crappy to see three teams take up half of the home games each year.
Ahh and this is the arguement. Some people love seeing the same opponent over and over again, and some get tired of it no matter if its really a rivalry or whatever. In the ECHL the majority of my teams home games are against 3 clubs. Really boring, as somebody who has access to season tickets I actually get tired of going after awhile.

Now the other arguement here is how teams are playing more games against another division then there own. What the heck is up with that? Why even have divisions at that rate? I'm all for ditching divisions. Fifteen or so years ago(maybe as late as 10)they had a purpose, and that was for rovalries. The thing now is the game has changed in that regard. Now the only other logical reasoning is to cut travel costs, but when like half the league is owned by an NHL that arguement becomes somewhat of a moot point.

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