Good trade i guess... With subban , Weber, markov ans beaulieu hé finds himself squeeze between 3 puck moving defenceman and a future good one ... We dont have a défensive defenceman ready
What's Carle like? I'm guessing he'll be a fringe NHL / mainly AHL guy his career?
Personally I don't think Mitera will break into an regular NHL'er, but who knows, maybe a change of scenery will do good for him.
I think he can be an ok bottom pairing D personally. I find him decent all-around. Not flashy offensively but can put up some points, decent first pass, decent positioning... basically 'decent' at every aspect of the game, but not great at any.
I think he might have captained Michigan, but not sure. Is that a C on his chest, or is that part of the Michigan jerseys?
You can see by the angle that the other player also has something there but we can't really quite see what. I have to assume it's also a C. Has to be part of the shirt.
Don't go starting wild rumors about captaincy again, we had enough of trouble putting out all the ridiculous claims about Gorges'.
His Q years were supposedly filled with character issues. It's been so long since his draft year but I remember hearing/reading stuff like "not a particularly liked guy" within scouts due to confidence issues. A little bit like our very own 06 first round pick.
Pretty much. He use to be pretty breakable. Now, he just kept falling behind other right handed d, like Subban and Weber, then we signed Diaz
Plus, I think the habs wanted some more size for Hamilton, as Leblanc could be (is going to be ?) there this year and he's our prize forward prospect.
Ah fair enough, makes sense for you guys then
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I think he can be an ok bottom pairing D personally. I find him decent all-around. Not flashy offensively but can put up some points, decent first pass, decent positioning... basically 'decent' at every aspect of the game, but not great at any.
As a 5th-6th D I wouldn't have an issue with him.
Cheers for that, this could mean we trade on someone like Foster or Brookbank otherwise looks like he could be put with the Crunch as we have 7 dmen under contract.
Pretty sure his family are 'big' in the Gatineau/Buckingham area...I believe his dad owns a successful car dealership fairly close to where I live.
He was obviously 'black balled' by the Habs organization...no other reason to explain why he hasn't got a shot other than a short 3 game stint 2 years ago
MaxPac, Palushaj, Mitera... looks like we are trying to assemble all of the recent NHL prospect Wolverines... will Jack Johnson and Cogliano be next?
seriously though, interesting to see us go after those teammates.
hard not to like the move, after 4 injury-plagued years in the AHL, Carle seemed like a prospect who wasn't going to take the next step for us, and with the additions of Diaz and the drafting of Beaulieu, his odds of making the team down the road were probably slim-to-none.
don't know much about how Mitera was for Syracuse in the AHL, but putting up 20+pts in his first full AHL season despite being known more as a defensively inclined player is a pretty positive sign...
look forward to seeing how he progresses this year in Hamilton.
Cheers for that, this could mean we trade on someone like Foster or Brookbank otherwise looks like he could be put with the Crunch as we have 7 dmen under contract.
If you need right handed shooters, he might be able to crack the lineup.
He's more likely to do so than Mitera (I think), so it could be a win in that sense, but Montréal needed more size in Hamilton, so we get what we need.
Cheers for that, this could mean we trade on someone like Foster or Brookbank otherwise looks like he could be put with the Crunch as we have 7 dmen under contract.
Well he can also just start in the AHL and be called-up for injuries. Possibly what will happen anyway, I doubt they traded for a guy that played less than 10 games in the NHL at 23 and expect him to start the year in your roster.
Although we kinda DID that with Yemelin on our end, but it's a slightly different situation.
Carle was never going to stick with the Habs. Had a good chance a few years back but injuries killed that, and other players passed him on the depth chart.
I don't know if Mitera will ever make Montreal either, but he's big and physical so I suppose you never know. Seems like an acquisition purely for Hamilton's benefit.
Isn't he from your area anyway? Do you know him? Just curious
Mathieu Carle was born and raised in Buckingham, PQ. His father is a well known businessman here, owns the biggest car dealership in Buckingham, Carle Ford. His bro was probably even more talented than him (saw him play at the bantam level, and was a beast at the blue line). But has had attitude issues. Went to play for the Notre-Dame Hounds if I recall, and left to come and play junior B with the Mustangs in Gatineau.
When Mathieu got drafted, the general consensus in minor hockey in the Buckingham/Masson-Angers area was that Montreal was making a mistake, because the kid had no tenacity and heart. Le cordon du coeur qui traîne... People in this area are known to be very critical on anything. I don't know him personally, but I was in minor hockey for more or less 10 years.
If you need right handed shooters, he might be able to crack the lineup.
He's more likely to do so than Mitera (I think), so it could be a win in that sense, but Montréal needed more size in Hamilton, so we get what we need.
In that case you could be right, Lubo, Lydman, Fowler, Beauch, Sbisa are all left handed shots.
Only Foster and Brookbank are right handed, and Brookbank isn't good enough to be in the team regularly so could mean Foster / Carle battle it out for the #6 spot.
But yes, this seems like a win - win for both sides, hopefully Mitera can do well for you guys
He was obviously 'black balled' by the Habs organization...no other reason to explain why he hasn't got a shot other than a short 3 game stint 2 years ago
I still remember when we traded for Jay Leach, the devils AHL player that came and played for a little bit here 2 years ago. We called Carle up for 3 games, he did totally fine imo, and then we replaced him by a trade to an AHL player from the DEVILS!
I was like, wtf happened there? He might really have been 'black balled' by the organization, it's a bit what I thought at the time anyway.