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07-15-2011, 07:07 PM
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Campoli is a nice depth piece for a contender, but really, I wouldn't want him playing top 4 minutes regardless of how bad my team was. I thought he fit in great with the hawks, but not for 3 mil.

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Overpay him for one year. I'd rather have him on an inflated contract and have a stacked defense than let the cap space rot away.

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Overpay him for one year. I'd rather have him on an inflated contract and have a stacked defense than let the cap space rot away.
Where's he going to play? They clearly signed Lepisto to replace Campoli. You don't take the Hawks to Arbitration, remember Calder?

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07-15-2011, 07:12 PM
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I have not seen Lepisto play but from all reports on here Campoli is superior player. Let Lepisto sit in Rockford for all I care. Campoli fits this team like a glove. He's a good puck mover for the bottom pairing and can PK.

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07-15-2011, 07:12 PM
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It doesn't matter. He is a solid #5 on any NHL team. He is not more than that. But he is not less than that either...He is far from a #6 and on a few bad teams he is a #4...

Lepisto is a #6 possibly a #5 but the dropoff is not significant enough to pay Campoli...

I think Campoli can take his 2.75 million or 3 million and play on a team that sucks. He could have gotten 2.3 million and collected extra cash here in playoff money or bonuses. Bonehead move to go from a contender to a pretender. Ottawa might take him back...he probably didn't burn bridges.
I disagree. Campoli does not play a soft game and if any of our top 4 go down to injury he is more than adequate to take up the slack. I just hope that Stan didn't let the emotion of the minute get the better of him but that certainly is how it appears by his declaration. Pretty stupid if you ask me!

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I disagree. Campoli does not play a soft game and if any of our top 4 go down to injury he is more than adequate to take up the slack. I just hope that Stan didn't let the emotion of the minute get the better of him but trhat certainly is how it appears by his declaration. Pretty stupid if you ask me!
Yea, I like him on the hawks as well, but the thought of giving him 3mil/yr and basically doubling his salary is just

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Overpay him for one year. I'd rather have him on an inflated contract and have a stacked defense than let the cap space rot away.
hmm, I actually like what you're thinking. We have a ton of space. If campoli will sign for a year, I don't really see an issue with it.

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07-15-2011, 07:13 PM
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Blackhawks fans are the only fans that think Campoli is good. Lets face it, we severely overate the guy.

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Blackhawks fans are the only fans that think Campoli is good. Lets face it, we severely overate the guy.
Not really. he fit the team like a glove and would be >>>odonnell in the bottom pairing.

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/\ He did seem to fit in nicely and if he is indeed gone, I think we are making a mistake. I was really looking forward to this season with him as our 5th dman who could play the PP if needed.

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Overpay him for one year. I'd rather have him on an inflated contract and have a stacked defense than let the cap space rot away.
Or the cap space can be used throughout the season if needed... Or at the deadline...

Campoli is not a good defenseman. Period. He's definitely not a bottom pairing defenseman that you OVERPAY to keep. The fact that a terrible team like Ottawa wasn't even going to offer him a contract says it all. The difference between Lepisto and Campoli for the minutes and roles they are going to be playing, is negligible. The salary isn't. See ya Chris! Good luck getting a job and that $3 million you want come August.

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/\ He did seem to fit in nicely and if he is indeed gone, I think we are making a mistake. I was really looking forward to this season with him as our 5th dman who could play the PP if needed.
yea, but 3 mil for a 5th dman is pretty steep. Though, we could afford it. I would definitely like to see him get PP time if we do sign him.

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Not really. he fit the team like a glove and would be >>>odonnell in the bottom pairing.
Well now he can go to another team and give up 2 on 1's from bad pinches.

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yea, but 3 mil for a 5th dman is pretty steep. Though, we could afford it. I would definitely like to see him get PP time if we do sign him.
Fifth dman? How is Campoli better than any of Hammer, Montador, or Leddy? He's the #6 on this team, any way you look at it.

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Until we see exactly what happens with Campoli, this is the last thing I'm going to say on the matter. If Hawks are going to bring in a fringe dman, it had better be one with some grit and physicality. Not one who is a wannabe top 4. The extra money we would have paid Campoli in the short term is irrelevant if Lepisto can't do the job physically. And the scouting report says he can't. Hopefully it's wrong.

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Not really. he fit the team like a glove and would be >>>odonnell in the bottom pairing.
How does he fit the team like a glove? Lepisto can do the same things Campoli does except Lepisto doesn't get the publicity and popularity since he has less NHL experience. What is so great about Campoli?

I understand people feel like we need to have someone fill Campbells shoes but Campoli is not the answer at 3m per.

Campbells points will be made up by our new defensemen anyways. One thing people haven't talked about is the ability for Montador to get pucks to the net at the blue line and the good D from Lepisto, Montador, Leddy, and others will help since we won't have a million 2 on 1's every game.

We have a defense that is better suited for the postseason thats for sure.

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Until we see exactly what happens with Campoli, this is the last thing I'm going to say on the matter. If Hawks are going to bring in a fringe dman, it had better be one with some grit and physicality. Not one who is a wannabe top 4. The extra money we would have paid Campoli in the short term is irrelevant if Lepisto can't do the job physically. And the scouting report says he can't. Hopefully it's wrong.
Who cares how physical a defenseman is if he can't play defense. A typical game from Campoli involves bad pinches. Its a good with the bad type player. He had 3 goals and 4 assists for the Hawks and somehow, people think he is good. There are other D-men that can skate too AND Play really good D.

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Until we see exactly what happens with Campoli, this is the last thing I'm going to say on the matter. If Hawks are going to bring in a fringe dman, it had better be one with some grit and physicality. Not one who is a wannabe top 4. The extra money we would have paid Campoli in the short term is irrelevant if Lepisto can't do the job physically. And the scouting report says he can't. Hopefully it's wrong.
Because Campoli has a ton of grit and physicality?

O'Donnell is there, as well as Montador. There's your grit and physicality. Look at the mix of defensemen on this roster.

Puckmovers: Keith, Leddy, Lepisto
Physical/Grit: Seabrook, Hammer, Montador, O'Donnell

They're fine.

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How does he fit the team like a glove? Lepisto can do the same things Campoli does except Lepisto doesn't get the publicity and popularity since he has less NHL experience. What is so great about Campoli?

I understand people feel like we need to have someone fill Campbells shoes but Campoli is not the answer at 3m per.

Campbells points will be made up by our new defensemen anyways. One thing people haven't talked about is the ability for Montador to get pucks to the net at the blue line and the good D from Lepisto, Montador, Leddy, and others will help since we won't have a million 2 on 1's every game.

We have a defense that is better suited for the postseason thats for sure.
I explicitly stated i dont' think he's worth 3mil per, but he barely missed a beat when he joined the hawks. his aggressive nature fits the team very well. personally, I'm not a big Lepisto fan, and if we didn't have cap space, I'd much rather have lepisto at ~1mil than campoli around @2.5-3, but since we have a decent amount of space, I'd rather have campoli for 1 year than lepisto.

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Because Campoli has a ton of grit and physicality?
I wouldn't say he has "a ton" of it... but he was pretty feisty when he was here. Frequently getting into scrums, would finish his hits and battled pretty hard.

Campoli is getting way too much flak around here. He was a good fit here, even if it was only for a couple months. Lepisto is a better option for the price, but from what I've heard/seen Campoli is probably slightly better in most facets of the game.

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Nobody from the Islanders or Ottawa that I have seen wants anything to do with this guy, and I keep hearing things about him being arrogant and a bad locker room guy. This is the exact opposite of what this (or any) team needs. I am happy he isn't coming back, especially for the ridiculous paycheck he wants.

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Or the cap space can be used throughout the season if needed... Or at the deadline...

Campoli is not a good defenseman. Period. He's definitely not a bottom pairing defenseman that you OVERPAY to keep. The fact that a terrible team like Ottawa wasn't even going to offer him a contract says it all. The difference between Lepisto and Campoli for the minutes and roles they are going to be playing, is negligible. The salary isn't. See ya Chris! Good luck getting a job and that $3 million you want come August.
Even with Campoli at a $3 million salary we'd have what? $9 million for a roster player at the deadline. We aren't going to be trading for Ovechkin. Unless Campoli is packed for an upgrade at defense or an elite third line center, pay him more than he's worth to keep him here. There are no better options.

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Campoli and Lepisto are pretty similar, so much so that this is in all likelyhood a wash. I wouldn't get bent out of shape about this.

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Even with Campoli at a $3 million salary we'd have what? $9 million for a roster player at the deadline. We aren't going to be trading for Ovechkin. Unless Campoli is packed for an upgrade at defense or an elite third line center, pay him more than he's worth to keep him here. There are no better options.
That's not the Hawks M.O. They never cave in arbitration, Calder was shipped out as were a few other guys that dared to take the Hawks to arb. That's just how they operate, they send you packing when you do this.

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That's not the Hawks M.O. They never cave in arbitration, Calder was shipped out as were a few other guys that dared to take the Hawks to arb. That's just how they operate, they send you packing when you do this.
Unless your name is Viktor Stalberg.

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Keep in mind filing for arbitration is to arrive at a fair salary.

It is done by an independant 3rd party.

All he was doing was asking to be paid fairly.

Strange how when a player comes on board he is the next coming of Bobby Orr yet when he leaves he is worthless.

At the end of the day Campoli will sign somewhere for more than he made last year and life will go on.

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