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07-15-2011, 08:52 PM
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LW depth for 2012-2013

I think it's safe to say that depth for 12'-13' will be much greater than it is this year. My prediction is...

Kreider
Dubinsky
Miller

Dubisnky and Kreider should be interchangeable, but I like keeping Dubi on the pack line so I just penciled him in for the second line. There is a distant chance Parise becomes a UFA in the summer of 2012, so that can't be ruled out entirely either.

No matter how you cut it, I don't see how we don't improve. This is becoming a very exciting team.

edit: I was only talking for three lines deep because I feel the fourth line is going to have so many options at LW.


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We're forgetting Hagelin as well.

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It'll certainly be one of the top LW cores in the league in a few years if we are able to retain them all, which we will.

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I think it's safe to say that depth for 12'-13' will be much greater than it is this year. My prediction is...

Kreider
Dubinsky
Miller

Dubisnky and Kreider should be interchangeable, but I like keeping Dubi on the pack line so I just penciled him in for the second line. There is a distant chance Parise becomes a UFA in the summer of 2012, so that can't be ruled out entirely either.

No matter how you cut it, I don't see how we don't improve. This is becoming a very exciting team.

edit: I was only talking for three lines deep because I feel the fourth line is going to have so many options at LW.
A rookie Kreider jumping Dubi on the depth chart? I don't think that's happening.

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I think it's safe to say that depth for 12'-13' will be much greater than it is this year. My prediction is...

Kreider
Dubinsky
Miller

Dubisnky and Kreider should be interchangeable, but I like keeping Dubi on the pack line so I just penciled him in for the second line. There is a distant chance Parise becomes a UFA in the summer of 2012, so that can't be ruled out entirely either.

No matter how you cut it, I don't see how we don't improve. This is becoming a very exciting team.

edit: I was only talking for three lines deep because I feel the fourth line is going to have so many options at LW.
Not a chance in HELL Miller makes this team opening day next season.

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It'll certainly be one of the top LW cores in the league in a few years if we are able to retain them all, which we will.
That's a pretty vague statement, don't you think?

You're banking on Krieder and Miller becoming 50+ point players in their rookie seasons or first few and Dubinsky exceeding the 50 point mark to reach that "top LW core" of the league, or at least in the top team LWs. I'd say the likelihood in that happening is very very slim.

Retaining these prospects will not be an issue though.

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Not a chance in HELL Miller makes this team opening day next season.
agreed. Kind of out there to believe Miller would.

Our depth will be just as bad...if not worse. Depth arguably isn't the problem...Dubinsky, Wolski, Avery, Feds and Boyle/Rupp.

The only plus is that Kreider may be able to step into a top 6 roll.

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If Kreider isn't in the lineup for 12'-13' I'm gonna blow a gasket. That's quite a wait for a first rounder picked in 2009.

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its a yr away and alot can happen but for depth

Richards, Stepan, Anisimov, Rupp
Gaborik, Callahan, Zuccarello, Prust
Dubinsky, Kreider, Boyle , Hagelin



I see Wolski, Avery, Feds, EC gondie

Miller is a few yrs away. Thomas may push for a spot

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Kreider ahead of Dubinsky didn't realize Kreider will have 6 years pro experience and 200+ points come 2012.

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I think it's safe to say that depth for 12'-13' will be much greater than it is this year. My prediction is...

Kreider
Dubinsky
Miller

Dubisnky and Kreider should be interchangeable, but I like keeping Dubi on the pack line so I just penciled him in for the second line. There is a distant chance Parise becomes a UFA in the summer of 2012, so that can't be ruled out entirely either.

No matter how you cut it, I don't see how we don't improve. This is becoming a very exciting team.

edit: I was only talking for three lines deep because I feel the fourth line is going to have so many options at LW.
I agree and like it a lot.

Lots of versatility there. All big, physical, and skilled.

Dubinsky and Miller are good faceoff guys too.

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Most likely:

Dubinsky
UFA/Trade acquisition
Hagelin
Rupp

Still don't think Kreider makes it. Needs a year in the AHL unless he absolutely tears it up in college.


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No idea why people are so willing to put Rupp in a position at center where he would not be able to fully play his game.

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Most likely:

Dubinsky
UFA/Trade acquisition
Hagelin
Rupp

Still don't think Kreider makes it. Either he leaves college and gets a year in the AHL, or finishes out his senior year.
He's graduating early to go Pro.

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He's graduating early to go Pro.
Thanks for jogging my memory.

I'll edit that.

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No idea why people are so willing to put Rupp in a position at center where he would not be able to fully play his game.
Especially since we have all of our centers signed.

Richards
Stepan/Anisimov
Stepan/Anisimov
Boyle

Unless one of Stepan/Anisimov don't improve on faceoffs. But I don't think Rupp would be the answer in that situation.

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Dubinsky
Kreider
Hagelin

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Thanks for jogging my memory.

I'll edit that.
No problemo!

Barring any trade, the only LW we will be committed to past this season is Dubinsky.

Wolski, Avery, Fedotenko will be UFA.

A lot of money committed to the core players.

Cheap young options will be necessary.

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^Wolski is a RFA.

Don't see him being qualified, though. Wouldn't be surprised if he were traded.

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Especially since we have all of our centers signed.

Richards
Stepan/Anisimov
Stepan/Anisimov
Boyle

Unless one of Stepan/Anisimov don't improve on faceoffs. But I don't think Rupp would be the answer in that situation.
Yeah, and i'm not so concerned about Boyle that i'd want to disturb our lineup to make sure he got 3rd line playing time.

BB is already on the PK unit, he might get some PP time here and there, no need to force him to LW. Dubinsky can continue to take some of the faceoffs for the pack line. As for Stepan, well he may have to start learning quicker (unless the line ends up Avery-Stepan-Fedotenko in which case Avery can take some) but if he keeps playing the point on the power play and is used sparingly on the PK I don't think it'll be a massive hamper on this team.

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I think it's safe to say that depth for 12'-13' will be much greater than it is this year. My prediction is...

Kreider
Dubinsky
Miller

Dubisnky and Kreider should be interchangeable

Duuuude!

First, Miller Genuine Bud won't be ready, not even close next year unless he takes a massive step forward that is beyond what we can expect right now, he won't even be ready for 4th line duty. In fact, he's probably not even going to be AHL-ready next year (even if he were eligible to play there).

Second, Kreider will NOT be interchangeable with Dubinsky. I will be very, very happy with Kreider if he puts in the same performance that Anisimov did his first year: 82 games, 12 goals, 16 assists, 28 points.

If Kreider EVER becomes as good as Dubinsky, it will be huge for us. But I think the earliest we can expect Kreider to be as good as Dubinsky (and it's dubious whether it even happens), would be his third season in the NHL, meaning 2014-15.

Dubi himself only reached this level in his 4th full-time season in the NHL at the age of 24. If Kreider does become as good as Dubinsky, it will probably be around the age of 24 as well, which is roughly when players stop improving physically and just gain experience.

If Kreider will be interchangeable with Dubinsky next year, then look for Kreider to be a mega-star by the age of 24. *If* he's as good as Dubinsky when he's 21, by the time he's in his mid-20s, Kreider will be a bigger version of Mike Gartner. Needless to say, I doubt very much that this happens.

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I think people in general are way too eager to throw these kids into the fire. I don't feel comfy throwing Kreider and Miller into any starting lineups until they play at least half a season of professional hockey regarding AHL or etc.

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A rookie Kreider jumping Dubi on the depth chart? I don't think that's happening.
Exactly. Without a breakout year at Boston College, expect some further training in the ahl for Kreider. Although super talented, hockey sense(or positioning) may need some polishing

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