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2011 Minnesota #3 Prospect

View Poll Results: Who is the third-best Wild prospect?
Cody Almond 0 0%
Jonas Brodin 37 45.12%
Brett Bulmer 0 0%
Tyler Cuma 0 0%
Justin Falk 0 0%
Colton Gillies 0 0%
Matt Hackett 0 0%
Erik Haula 4 4.88%
Johan Larsson 1 1.22%
Mario Lucia 0 0%
Zack Phillips 0 0%
Marco Scandella 32 39.02%
Casey Wellman 0 0%
Jason Zucker 8 9.76%
Other (please explain) 0 0%
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07-16-2011, 04:02 PM
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2011 Minnesota #3 Prospect

Everyone get a chance to watch today's scrimmage? Good.

2011 HF Wild Prospect Rankings
1. Mikael Granlund
2. Charlie Coyle


#2 went to BU forward Charlie Coyle although the vote was much closer than #1 with Marco Scandella and Jonas Brodin picking up a sizable vote. The only addition to this poll is Justin Falk so vote early and vote often. As always, polls are open for two days.

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Scandella.

On to #4.

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Should be close between Brodin and Scandella, I'm betting. I voted Scandella, but it was a very difficult choice.

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It's time for Brodin.

Marco is my #4.

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Scandella then Brodin

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the guy that should have been number two better get number 3, jonas brodin showed today why he was taken 10th and why he's the 2nd best prospect on the Wild, kid played well and showed some real nifty decision making.

too bad people are snubbing him, Jonas Brodin

also just watched the nhl draft video for brodin, TSN had "alex edler" as the comparable player

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I can't decide.

I've seen a lot of Scandy, and think he could be so-so top pairing guy, but should be a very solid 3/4.

Brodin has a higher ceiling, but it's so much tougher with such a young guy...

I think I have to go Brodin based on projection.

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I vote Brodin.

I know Scandella is closer, but Brodin's potential is just so much higher.

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#2 went to BU forward Charlie Coyle although the vote was much closer than #1 with Marco Scandella and Jonas Brodin picking up a sizable vote. The only addition to this poll is Justin Falk so vote early and vote often. As always, polls are open for two days.
Implying we can vote more than once.

I voted Scandella out of pure preference at this point. Really hard decision but Scandella has always been one of my favorite prospects.


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Went with Bro. Potential...

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Scandella again. I do find it interesting how Brodin went from "who/reach/wtf passed on Murphy/4 points in SEL/etc" to becoming such a hot prospect around here. Also remember constant complaints of Kim Johnsson while he played for us, so Brodin's "proven skill-set" wasn't so highly thought of then either.

I like both of their skill-sets, but ultimately Scandella's ahead of Brodin in development with similar upside. Scandella's got all the tools to be our best d-man in 2011-12, which is both a knock on our group but also a praise of what he brings to the table.

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yeah, not highly thought of until it's gone and it's blatantly obvious what we're missing.
Brodin is the obvious choice for me. Kid is a fantastic skater and takes the "smart defenseman" award away from Spurgeon in our system. The pairing with Genoway really worked well to show him off, too. Watch him skate backwards tomorrow...He's better backwards than a lot of the guys on the ice were going forward.

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For the record, I was a fan of Johnsson, and never complained about it being a reach for picking Brodin.

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Scandella again. I do find it interesting how Brodin went from "who/reach/wtf passed on Murphy/4 points in SEL/etc" to becoming such a hot prospect around here. Also remember constant complaints of Kim Johnsson while he played for us, so Brodin's "proven skill-set" wasn't so highly thought of then either.

I like both of their skill-sets, but ultimately Scandella's ahead of Brodin in development with similar upside. Scandella's got all the tools to be our best d-man in 2011-12, which is both a knock on our group but also a praise of what he brings to the table.
Keep in mind, it was a vocal minority who were horribly upset at the pick. There were a few people who went on suicide watch the moment we didn't pick a forward.

The Johnsson complaints always get misinterpreted. 90% of the complaints stemmed from A: his pay didn't match his production, B: he never lived up to what he did in Philly, his fault? or JL's? and C: good god, the man knew how to destroy the groove on a PP... How many times did he take that hyper-awkward wind-up to a fake slap shot that everyone in the arena knew he wouldn't ever take? And don't get me started on keeping the puck in at the blueline...

If he had a bit less on his cap hit? I would've been at least OK with him, and been able to look at his positives, rather than dwell on the things he couldn't do. And I outright hated the guy when he was here...

The fact remains though, he's been the best defensemen the Wild have ever had when it comes to a good, clean breakout pass. No one since has come close.

If Brodin can be that steady, shutdown guy that it seems like he has the tools to become, AND be able to make KJ-esque breakout passes? Who gives a damn if his offensive game never flourishes, he'll become one of the most coveted defensive defensemen in the league.

That kind of potential is why people have stepped back from the ledge. Can he actually get there? Who the hell knows... But it's the if that has made people pay a bit more attention, and step away from the "OMG HOW MANY POINTS? WORST PICK EVER" crap.

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i would vote Zucker if I could. I have high hopes for him

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Scandella. I really don't see why Brodin has a much higher potential. Scandella has all the tools to be a very good defensemen.

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So far this one appears to be the battle of the defensemen... and it seems to be split along the lines of which is closer (Scandella) and which has more potential (Brodin).

Will be interesting how this one ends up.

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Scandella. I really don't see why Brodin has a much higher potential. Scandella has all the tools to be a very good defensemen.
Because if you watched the scrimmage, he's doing what Scandella can do while being 3 years younger and that much physically immature.

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I voted Zucker again. Coyle and Brodin may turn out better. Right now, Zucker has done it. Brodin in the furthest away as he is the youngest. I guess it comes down to your version of prospect.

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I voted Zucker again. Coyle and Brodin may turn out better. Right now, Zucker has done it. Brodin in the furthest away as he is the youngest. I guess it comes down to your version of prospect.
I may be the only one, but I think Brodin is closer to the NHL than Zucker.

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I may be the only one, but I think Brodin is closer to the NHL than Zucker.
No I'm with you. Zucker will most likely spend few years in AHL more than Brodin. Just the fact that he plays with men.

Voting for the same guy as in previous poll.

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I may be the only one, but I think Brodin is closer to the NHL than Zucker.
I think that's a safe assumption.

Brodin will play this year in the SEL, next year he could make the team or play a single year in Houston. 1-2 years.

Zucker will play AT LEAST one more year at college, 2 wouldn't surprise me. Then one in Houston isn't out of the question. 1-3 years.

That's my guess anyway.

It seemed like Fletch and co. knew that Zucker would be a bit more of a project. I don't think even though knew that he'd generate this kind of buzz though.

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I think that's a safe assumption.

Brodin will play this year in the SEL, next year he could make the team or play a single year in Houston. 1-2 years.

Zucker will play AT LEAST one more year at college, 2 wouldn't surprise me. Then one in Houston isn't out of the question. 1-3 years.

That's my guess anyway.

It seemed like Fletch and co. knew that Zucker would be a bit more of a project. I don't think even though knew that he'd generate this kind of buzz though.
Zucker could very well be the best player in the WCHA this year. No reason to have him dominate a league two years running. I only seeing him staying if he feels he has unfishshed business at DU. An early exit next year, for Denver, and he could make his Wild debut at the end of the season.

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