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07-16-2011, 05:02 PM
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Unofficial Offseason Trade Rumor/Proposal Thread | Part VI

last 5 got filled

number 6

curious to know if the NYI are interesting in Tom Gilbert


last one
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last 5 got filled

number 6

curious to know if the NYI are interesting in Tom Gilbert


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Well, they definitely need salary if they intend to play next season, thats for sure

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Well, they definitely need salary if they intend to play next season, thats for sure
I know they still need what 10 million to hit the cap floor?

That includes still paying Yashin 2+ million per season for the next four seasons.

They still owe Brendan Witt close to 1 million on his buy out as well on their cap.

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I know they still need what 10 million to hit the cap floor?

That includes still paying Yashin 2+ million per season for the next four seasons.

They still owe Brendan Witt close to 1 million on his buy out as well on their cap.
They should be OS'ing the hell out of Stamkos and Doughty

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I'd do Gagner and Smid, not Petry.

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Well I am not a fan of Gagner and Petry for Bogosian rumour. I wouldn't have a problem if it was Gags and Chorney or Plante. As far as Gags being a center for the Jets, I think he would be moved to the wing in Winnipeg. Hartski better not be traded just to get rid of Khabby, that one has regret written all over it.

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they should tqke horcoff he would be good for the kids.

now gags plus petry for bogo could work.

you know the oilers are going to start to trade multiple players for upgrades....we have a lot of depth with our prospects coming up.

bogo could be a stud on D

Gags will be a good # 2 center petry is a good 3 pairing guy at the moment and could be more.

bogo is a good second pairing guy that could be a good first pairing guy. they are harder to find than small second line centers.

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I love how that rationale works for other players but not for Gagner. It's ****ing stupid of us to think that. I like both players, but you can't say you like one and not the other.
My being ok with moving Gagner isn't because I don't think he can improve. It's because I think that even if he does improve, he's isn't going to be a building-block type of player. Bogosian, if he improves, has the potential to be the kind of guy who's a big part of a successful team.

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I still don't see the hype in Bogosian..

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I'd do an Omark for Clarkson + mid pick type deal. Our team could still use a little more grit.

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I still don't see the hype in Bogosian..
6'3" 220lbs, skates like the wind, and just turned 21 yesterday. 3 coaches in his 3 NHL seasons. Guy just needs some stability and a coach like Renney who won't rip him for little mistakes.

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6'3" 220lbs, skates like the wind, and just turned 21 yesterday. 3 coaches in his 3 NHL seasons. Guy just needs some stability and a coach like Renney who won't rip him for little mistakes.
Furthermore, he can be physical and has a rocket from the point.

That being said, he has rather poor hockey IQ and he makes a lot of poor decisions with the puck in his own end.

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6'3" 220lbs, skates like the wind, and just turned 21 yesterday. 3 coaches in his 3 NHL seasons. Guy just needs some stability and a coach like Renney who won't rip him for little mistakes.
Cam Barker is also 6'3, 222 lbs and is a pretty good skater and both were 3rd overall picks . Theres always two different ways of looking at it. He's a risk and I don't know if I'd be willing to part ways with both Gagner and Petry for Bogosian.

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Trading Gagner would not ensure RNH anything.

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Trading Gagner would not ensure RNH anything.
No, but it would leave a clear void in the top 6. With Gagner, there's still a chance RNH could prove he belongs and still not make the team. Without him, a good camp and preseason all but guarantees he makes it.

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Trading Gagner would not ensure RNH anything.

If gagner gets traded and no centre comes back it pretty much guarantees RNH a spot, and he'd only lose it if he proved he wasn't ready for it.

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Subsequent moves would yet to be made to back fill at C.

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Well I am not a fan of Gagner and Petry for Bogosian rumour. I wouldn't have a problem if it was Gags and Chorney or Plante. As far as Gags being a center for the Jets, I think he would be moved to the wing in Winnipeg. Hartski better not be traded just to get rid of Khabby, that one has regret written all over it.
The thing with Petry is i dont know if he will ever be more then a # 4 dman.....the Oilers are starting to get some good defence prospects that will be as good or better then Petry( Klefbom, Marincin,Musil,Tuebert) , but we are lacking a guy that has the potential to be a top pairing guy. As for Gagner, I have been a supporter of his since day one, but he will not be a great top 6 guy either.....could be a good 2nd liner, but still needs a ways to go to be a great one..I dont see Gagner sticking at center either. If he is a top six winger in the future then one of Hemsky/Eberle/Hall/PRV will have to be moved, and that does not include Pitlick/Lander/Hamilton/Hartikanen/Omark as top 9 options for the future.......of all the players listed Gagner and Omark are the likely guys to be moved

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I'd move Gagner and Petry for Bogo ONLY if our pro and amateur scouts both feel that he could fulfill his potential to at least a Jack Johnson level.

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No, but it would leave a clear void in the top 6. With Gagner, there's still a chance RNH could prove he belongs and still not make the team. Without him, a good camp and preseason all but guarantees he makes it.
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If gagner gets traded and no centre comes back it pretty much guarantees RNH a spot, and he'd only lose it if he proved he wasn't ready for it.
Horcoff and Belanger have both played top 6 lots. If Gagner were not here the open C spot could just as easily go to Lander in the bottom 6.

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guys where is this bogosian stuff coming from? My friend just texted me saying we offerend sam ganger and jeff petry for bogo....where the hell is this source coming from?


if so, you do this...some guys already talking about how bogo is a building block while sam isnt...and i agree

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guys where is this bogosian stuff coming from? My friend just texted me saying we offerend sam ganger and jeff petry for bogo....where the hell is this source coming from?


if so, you do this...some guys already talking about how bogo is a building block while sam isnt...and i agree
http://twitter.com/#!/TreenasOil/sta...27300686815232

What is also frustrating in another tweet she called Horcoff, Horcrap. Why is garbage like that allowed and didn't even mention Gagner as a centre. I bet TreenasOil wants Gagner out.

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Horcoff and Belanger have both played top 6 lots. If Gagner were not here the open C spot could just as easily go to Lander in the bottom 6.

I like Lander a lot, but I still think RNH has the upper hand on him because he's been playing in north america. MPS struggled last year to transition to the NHL game, and Lander very well could too, and the centre depth is at a place where he could take a stint in the AHL to make the transition rather than get thrown into the fire.

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What is also frustrating in another tweet she called Horcoff, Horcrap. Why is garbage like that allowed and didn't even mention Gagner as a centre. I bet TreenasOil wants Gagner out.
I hate all this Bogosian talk just based solely on not liking the guys attitude. Maybe change of scenery and such could change things, but Gagner and Petry is massive overpayment.

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Horcoff and Belanger have both played top 6 lots. If Gagner were not here the open C spot could just as easily go to Lander in the bottom 6.
True, but Horcoff and Belanger as your 1-2 punch down the middle is rather ugly, other than the fact they are both solid defensively and win more draws than they lose. They are probably both good for 40+ points considering they will play with Hall, Eberle, Smyth, MP, and Hemmer, but neither of them create much offense.

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