Whitney can only dream of having Bogosian's puck carrying and shooting ability.
Smid carries the puck well and Foster has a cannon for a shot but if you don't what to do with the puck with the end result, it won't get you far. Bogosian has immense physical gifts but he doesn't think the game very well and until he does, he will just be a physical specimen who never quite put it together ie Cam Barker.
He is nowhere near Whitney as far as an offensive threat is concerned, not even close at this point. Whitney has an ELITE outlet pass and can run a PP very effectively (our PP tanked immediately after his injury), Bogosian needs a lot of work in these areas. He almost certainly has the potential to be better offensively than Whitney but he's not there yet.
I agree. Bogosian has a long way to go to compare.
I know you did not like the signing. But these videos would seem to show that claim is not really correct.
Also he had 68 hits in 52 games last season so that would seem to suggest physical play. There were a couple more fights videos I did not post where Barker made big hits and guys came in to fight him afterward.
I didn't watch him much back in Chicago.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if he can do that again.
I just hope his stint in Minny was a blip on the radar and not an indicator of what he's becoming because he was the complete opposite of those videos in his time there. He wouldn't fight(other than losses to Yip and D'Agostini), he shied away from physicality, wasn't very good in the corners and was a proverbial floater.
I guess we'll see if we get the Chicago or Minnesota Barker.
I'd hate the idea of signing a player to a contract and then dealing him away right after. Didn't like the sharks doing that to Seto and wouldn't like it if Tambo did it to Smid.
But that being said, I'd trade Smid before Petry. Gagner+Smid I could at least accept, I don't know why Winnipeg would do that though.
If the right offer comes along, it doesn't matter. Look at Setoguchi
We all have to look at in reverse terms. A signed player means that there is more security for the potential team acquiring. Would you rather trade for a guy with 1 year left or heading to UFA status.
I think you will see loads of Setoguchi type trades in the future.
If players get NTC, and NMC, management on the other side has to have less security with other players.
If the right offer comes along, it doesn't matter. Look at Setoguchi
That's true but I dont know why, Tambo always seemed to be like loyal players. Smid is loyal and I can see Tambo keeping him here but I really hope I am wrong. If this offer is true and the Oilers pull the trigger on this deal, we just made this rebuild much quicker.
I'd hate the idea of signing a player to a contract and then dealing him away right after. Didn't like the sharks doing that to Seto and wouldn't like it if Tambo did it to Smid.
But that being said, I'd trade Smid before Petry. Gagner+Smid I could at least accept, I don't know why Winnipeg would do that though.
I don't like it much either TBH, however it is a business and I don't think that anyone could honestly say that Smid gave us a hometown discount so it's not like the Richards and Carter deals which IMO were much worse situations.
But that being said, I'd trade Smid before Petry. Gagner+Smid I could at least accept, I don't know why Winnipeg would do that though.
Because Smid is an NHL defenceman. As of right now, Petry is not. He has the potential to be a good one, but isn't quite there yet. I think Winnipeg would rather be competitive now.
Because Smid is an NHL defenceman. As of right now, Petry is not. He has the potential to be a good one, but isn't quite there yet. I think Winnipeg would rather be competitive now.
Maybe it's as simple as preferring a LD over a RD? Smid is definitely the proven commodity of the two but his upside is also lower.
If this is honestly the case and that was what was asked of us in return my question becomes why haven't we signed on the dotted line yet?
Well, that's why this "rumor" seems kind of fishy and also why would Winnipeg ask for Smid instead of Petry, maybe because Smid is more established? Who knows?
I think that management is high on Gagner and just re-signed Smid so maybe that would be the holdup but my guess is that the rumor is bogus. In any event, it's good to have something to talk about.
So far "she" hasn't proven herself in these types of situations before as far as I know, so I'll reserve judgment until something actually happens on the Bogosian front.
Because Smid is an NHL defenceman. As of right now, Petry is not. He has the potential to be a good one, but isn't quite there yet. I think Winnipeg would rather be competitive now.
I think Petry showed that he is capable of being at the very least, a 5th NHL defencemen. He is good offensively and defensively and I remember when he first got called up, he played pretty good but then started to cool down. After being called up again, I think he proved that he is a 5th defencemen and will only improve.
Maybe it's as simple as preferring a LD over a RD? Smid is definitely the proven commodity of the two but his upside is also lower.
Or that too. IMO Winnipeg wants to start with a bang, get some new faces in there, some proven NHL'rs and attempt to make the playoffs with all the momentum on their side and would be open to dealing picks/prospects/young players for more proven players so that's why Smid may appeal more to them. I don't know what their D situation is in terms of LD over RD though so I can't pretend to know what's happening there.
I think Petry showed that he is capable of being at the very least, a 5th NHL defencemen. He is good offensively and defensively and I remember when he first got called up, he played pretty good but then started to cool down. After being called up again, I think he proved that he is a 5th defencemen and will only improve.
I agree I think Petry will become a good D man but as of right now Smid is better even if by a smidge
