how accurately can you scout a player that is still 4 years away from his NHL draft?
you know you can do it pretty good...after years of scouting you can compare him with others who came up...look at his intagibels...of course there are going to be guys who fall because bad decisions on route or bad situation with team or they are just lazy or top out early...then you will have guys who develop better than expected or smaller players who grow more than what you think they might...but you can get a jist up to 4 years away, and go with that...each year you will be taking players out and adding new ones in then when draft time actually comes you can get a pretty good list.
For scouting wise well it would be my job with my team to speculate these players projectability so for me or anyone wanting to be a scout it is a must to not be scared to make these calls and to watch carefully because we have to project these guys years down the road, if you know what you are looking for you can get a really good read on these guys on how they probably will turn out.
Why not? There have been NHL scouts out at McDavid's games this year. If they want to see him, it shouldn't be off limits to discuss them...
Im starting to rank Ontario and US 97 born prospects for the OHL Draft. It happens all the time.
They may not have been out to see him.
His stats may not have been the best on team for the year although press was in full force.
Others with less ice time may have done and looked better.
I know of at least one other kid considered better suited for NHL.
That's not from me but yes NHL folks.
It took him 2 years to function or meet the ice time expectations.
Let's hope his learning curve requirements don't take rest of team down as he learns with max ice time given.
Luke Kirwan: I heard about this kid from some inside sources that were in the Syracuse, NY region for tournaments this year. He is a highly touted 97 born playing up with kids 2 years older then him. Does anyone have more information on him and where he would rank in this draft group?
He's a great player, and now he's playing kids at least three years older than him. He is a late 97 do he's eligible for the 2016 draft. Where would you see him there?
Rumor is that Troy Henley from Comcast is going to Oakville to play Midget Minor/Major. Is this a precursor toward an OHL route instead of the NTDP or NCAA?
Who knows. Oakville's new coach Ken Strong is the former longtime coach of the powerhouse club Toronto Marlboros and he has been very actively recruiting top players from everywhere so early before training camps.
Was in Leduc, AB for the Telus Cup (Midget AAA) with my son's team. It was a tough week but the boys played well.
I watched Audette and I have to say that he is overhyped, IMHO. Lots of skill when there is no pressure. Not much production 5 on 5. I did see 2 young 1996 lates on the Quebec team. Vincent Desloriers and AJ Greer are both going to be players. Neither got a lot of ice in the games I saw, however, they are both competitors. I watched the final of the Telus Cup and they were the most dominant players on the ice.
I have a feeling that we will hear lots about these 2 in the Q draft and the 2015 NHL Entry Draft.
Readers of this publication are certainly familiar with Hanifin. A 1/25/97 birthdate, he played varsity at St. Sebastian’s last season as a 13-year-old, and, in 27 games, posted a 2-9-11 line. But that doesn’t tell half the story. What Hanifin showed was a rare combination of poise and skill that we haven’t seen in the Massachusetts prep ranks since Ryan Whitney was playing as an 8th grader at Thayer.
Hanifin reports that his doctor has told him that he’ll probably top out at 6’4” – 6’5.” With a filled-out frame -- and he's already pretty solidly built for his age and height -- Hanifin has the earmarks of a high first round NHL draft pick.
Thought this next paragraph was really telling on how high USHR is on him.
No doubt the fact that BC has stepped up and gotten a commitment from a ’97 will raise some eyebrows. But Hanifin deserves the honor, mainly because he is playing right now at the level of a lot of the top ‘94s and ‘95s. For example, we like him more – right now -- than any of the ’96 defensemen we saw in Rochester at the Select 15 Festival. He’s one of those rare players who we could see coming in and playing as an underager at the NTDP. They haven't taken an underager for years, and, in terms of social development, that's a good thing. However, Hanifin is a mature kid and could pull it off.
The bottom line on committing young kids is that it can be a real projection guess, with unforeseen consequences -- and that's why we have grave reservations about it. In Hanifin’s case, we don’t see this as an issue. He will be an impact Div. I defenseman, and there’s virtually zero chance that he will wash out. We don't think we're going out on a limb when we say that. He's a special one.
I really only get to see east coast games, Im interested to see where you guys see him in comparison to many of the other kids out there. I see some of you guys don't even have him listed on initial lists. Just looking for some points of comparison.
Pretty good list, now that the Ohl draft and Whl draft is over, we can update and compare players to previous lists who have been drafted, unfortunately both OHL and QMJHL draft 96 year players this year, exception Connor McDavid, so i`ll post the top ten whl players and then players that were included in the top list...
1.Connor McDavid, 1st overall OHL, Erie Otters (ranked 1st on Mock)
2.Matt Barzal, 1st overall WHL, Seattle Thunderbirds (ranked 3rd on Mock)
3.Jansen Harkins, 2nd overall WHL, Prince George Cougars
4.Brendan Guhle, 3rd overall WHL, Prince Albert Raiders
5.Giorgio Estephan, 4th overall WHL, Lethbridge Hurricanes (ranked 15th on Mock)
6.Glenn Gawdin, 5th overall WHL, Swift Current Broncos
7.Adam Musil, 6th overall WHL, Red Deer Rebels (Honourable Mention on Mock)
8.Brad Morrison, 7th overall WHL, Prince George Cougars
9.Tyler Soy, 8th overall WHL, Victoria Royals
10.Nick Merkley, 9th overall WHL, Kelowna Rockets (ranked 27th on Mock)
11.Troy Murray, 10th overall WHL, Kootenay Ice
12.Ethan Bear, 25th overall WHL, Seattle Thunderbirds (ranked 30th on Mock)
13.Keoni Texeira, 26th overall WHL, Portland Winterhawks (ranked 11th on Mock)
14.Cameron Reagan, 77th overall WHL, Kamloops Blazers (Honourable Mention on M)
15.Ethan Price, 130th overall WHL, Portland Winterhawks (Honourable Mention on M)
16.Robert Jackson 153rd overall WHL, Tri-City Americans (ranked 10th on Mock)
also Ryan Pilon was drafted previous year 2011 WHL Draft, 3rd overall, Lethbridge Hurricanes
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