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07-18-2011, 10:16 AM
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Comeau from the Islanders and Dubinsky from the Rangers are the most likely to be moved and potentially to the Canucks. At this point, Ballard is the guy that seems the most likely to be moved and maybe Hodgson.
Why exactly is Dubinsky likely to moved?

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07-18-2011, 10:45 AM
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The Canucks could really use a top six winger to play with Kesler.

I have complied a list of wingers that we would be intereseted in:

Ana: Ryan
Bos: Lucic
Buf: Pominville/Boyes
Dal: Benn
Edm: Hemsky
Nas: Hornqvist
NYI: Okposo/Comeau/Bailey
NYR: Dubinsky/Callahan
Stl: Backes/Stewart
Was: Semin
Win: Kane

So my question is what would their price be? I get that most of these people would be unlikely to be traded but I'd just like to figure out their cost.
Way to much!

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07-18-2011, 10:50 AM
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Ana: Ryan - More than your Canucks are willing to give up.
Bos: Lucic - More than your Canucks are willing to give up.
Buf: Pominville/Boyes - Boyes is easier to get, probably not too much.
Dal: Benn - More than your Canucks are willing to give up.
Edm: Hemsky - Google what Tambellini wanted for him at the deadline, around that.
Nas: Hornqvist - More than your Canucks are willing to give up.
NYI: Okposo/Comeau/Bailey - Comeau and Bailey might be attainable, but Okposo? Lol, no chance.
NYR: Dubinsky/Callahan - Wanna part with Edler?
Stl: Backes/Stewart - More than your Canucks are willing to give up.
Was: Semin - Might be attainable.
Win: Kane - More than your Canucks are willing to give up.

Lol, you have to be kidding me, to get these guys you would have to give up a 1st rounder, your top prospect and maybe more. In most of those cases and some of these teams, those players are very valuable to their teams.

Get real, we'd all like certain players on our favorite teams, the only time you will get to see it happen is if you buy a copy of the NHL video game.

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07-18-2011, 10:53 AM
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Really only Pominville/Boyes or Hemsky I see as available for the right price. Otherwise, forget it.

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07-18-2011, 10:56 AM
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Ana: Ryan - More than your Canucks are willing to give up.
Bos: Lucic - More than your Canucks are willing to give up.
Buf: Pominville/Boyes - Boyes is easier to get, probably not too much.
Dal: Benn - More than your Canucks are willing to give up.
Edm: Hemsky - Google what Tambellini wanted for him at the deadline, around that.
Nas: Hornqvist - More than your Canucks are willing to give up.
NYI: Okposo/Comeau/Bailey - Comeau and Bailey might be attainable, but Okposo? Lol, no chance.
NYR: Dubinsky/Callahan - Wanna part with Edler?
Stl: Backes/Stewart - More than your Canucks are willing to give up.
Was: Semin - Might be attainable.
Win: Kane - More than your Canucks are willing to give up.

Lol, you have to be kidding me, to get these guys you would have to give up a 1st rounder, your top prospect and maybe more. In most of those cases and some of these teams, those players are very valuable to their teams.

Get real, we'd all like certain players on our favorite teams, the only time you will get to see it happen is if you buy a copy of the NHL video game.
Exactly this.

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07-18-2011, 11:01 AM
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Ana: Ryan for Edler, Hodgson, 2nd
Bos: Lucic - Unavailable, think Kesler going back for them to listen.
Buf: Boyes for Alberts/Rome, 1st
Dal: Benn - Unavailable after trading Neil.
Edm: Hemsky for Tanev, 1st, 2nd -or- Hodgson, 1st
Nas: Hornqvist - Unavailable. Same team needs.
NYI: ???
NYR: Dubinsky/Callahan - Unavailable. Based on previous threads, Kesler would need to be going back.STL: Backes for Edler
Was: ???
Win: Kane - Unavailable.

Not saying either franchise would do these, but this is a vague idea of value.
kesler over those 2 deals, everyday of the week and twice on sunday. no comparison.

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07-18-2011, 11:05 AM
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kesler over those 2 deals, everyday of the week and twice on sunday. no comparison.
Short, im guessing you havent read the other threads of Vancouver trying to pry Dubinsky from us ranger fans. We never said Dubinsky or Callahan is worth kesler. What we did say is that there is no1 else on your roster that we would want except for kesler. If we are to trade Dubinsky or Callahan it would be with something else in order to gain all-star talent, we arent looking for more prospects/picks. We are a team gearing up for a cup run.

like what was mentioned in other threads..

Dubinsky + for Kesler

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07-18-2011, 11:07 AM
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Short, im guessing you havent read the other threads of Vancouver trying to pry Dubinsky from us ranger fans. We never said Dubinsky or Callahan is worth kesler. What we did say is that there is no1 else on your roster that we would want except for kesler. If we are to trade Dubinsky or Callahan it would be with something else in order to gain all-star talent, we arent looking for more prospects/picks. We are a team gearing up for a cup run.

like what was mentioned in other threads..

Dubinsky + for Kesler
This is common HF Boards logic, at this point. I guess we're just hoping your GM doesn't think this way as well haha. In all reality, I see no reason for NYR to move Dubinsky as they're clearly trying to make a run at the Cup.

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07-18-2011, 11:12 AM
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Vancouver fans just don't get it.

Ana: Ryan
Bos: Lucic
Buf: Pominville/Boyes

Dal: Benn
Edm: Hemsky
Nas: Hornqvist
NYI: Okposo/Comeau/Bailey
NYR: Dubinsky/Callahan
Stl: Backes/Stewart
Was: Semin
Win: Kane

All of these teams are playoff competitors. Playoffs teams don't trade with playoff teams, they trade with rebuilding teams... like Edmonton, NYI or Winnipeg.

Also, I guarantee that the Canucks WILL NOT GET any of Ryan, Lucic, Benn, Okposo, Dubinsky, Callahan, Backes or Kane.

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07-18-2011, 11:14 AM
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This is common HF Boards logic, at this point. I guess we're just hoping your GM doesn't think this way as well haha. In all reality, I see no reason for NYR to move Dubinsky as they're clearly trying to make a run at the Cup.
Ha yea if this was pre-lockout, Dubinsky and Callahan would have been gone ages ago for picks and 3rd line grinder prospects.. But Since the lockout it seems someone else is slowly taking over sather's body and mind, and actually building a very talented team. Im impressed.

We ranger fans feel like we are in the movie dave, where the president gets replaced by Dave, his look alike and he goes in and fixes the governments problems.

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and the toronto jealousy continues......
I'd like to know what people are supposed to be jealous of when it comes to the Leafs. Maybe that's just me though.

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and the toronto jealousy continues......
Not at all. Just a local Torontonian making light of our situation. All in good fun, we need that kind of attitude around this city given our sports teams' lulls as of late.

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I'd like to know what people are supposed to be jealous of when it comes to the Leafs. Maybe that's just me though.
that no matter what, toronto will always be number 1 in the world when it comes to professional hockey. whether they win the cup or not. case in point, a thread that has nothing to do with toronto somehow gets toronto involved.

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that no matter what, toronto will always be number 1 in the world when it comes to professional hockey. whether they win the cup or not. case in point, a thread that has nothing to do with toronto somehow gets toronto involved.
just keep tellin yourself that you're number 1

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07-18-2011, 11:22 AM
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that no matter what, toronto will always be number 1 in the world when it comes to professional hockey. whether they win the cup or not. case in point, a thread that has nothing to do with toronto somehow gets toronto involved.
I have no idea what any of this is supposed to mean.

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07-18-2011, 11:24 AM
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that no matter what, toronto will always be number 1 in the world when it comes to professional hockey. whether they win the cup or not. case in point, a thread that has nothing to do with toronto somehow gets toronto involved.
It has more to do with fan base size and infamy. Just an FYI.

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just keep tellin yourself that you're number 1
i dont have to tell myself that. i see it and hear it.

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Semin could probably be had from Washington for the right price... however, the right price would probably be Kesler.

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Hodgson for Boyes

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Ana: Ryan - Very doubtful in my mind (*** overpayment)
Bos: Lucic - Borderline impossible in my mine (*****)
Buf: Pominville/Boyes - I could see Boyes being moved, Pominville for decent overpayment considering what he gets paid and what they would be wanting in return.
Dal: Benn - Not going to happen *****
Edm: Hemsky - I think a deal could be made but I don't see Vancouver making this move.
Nas: Hornqvist - Not in a million years, 5 star overpayment
NYI: Okposo/Comeau/Bailey - Okposo = now way, Comeau = possibility, Bailey = pretty unlikely
NYR: Dubinsky/Callahan - Callahan = never, Dubinsky = unlikely, Rags have a lot of cap room and no more players to spend it on. No way they deal Dubinsky away just like that. Would need to be a very nice package. For Dubinsky to go to Vancouver it would need to be in a package that lands the Rags a better player. Both teams have a similar need to improve not deal away players they can use. The two teams just aren't a fit.
Stl: Backes/Stewart - N E V E R 5 star overpayment
Was: Semin - Believe it or not I could see a deal happening at deadline, and even though I could see it happening, overpayment in terms of youth/picks imo. Depends on a lot of factors, how Semin is playing, how Van/Wsh are playing, etc.
Win: Kane - LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL never

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07-18-2011, 11:33 AM
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Hodgson for Boyes


Realistically, you are looking at B. Sweatt + a 3rd. He was traded for a 2nd round pick, nothing else. He had a bit of a turn around in Buffalo but not a lot for a guy with his cap hit. I am guessing Sabres fans want him gone for Cap reasons, that might affect his value, no?

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The Canucks could really use a top six winger to play with Kesler.

I have complied a list of wingers that we would be intereseted in:

Ana: Ryan
Bos: Lucic
Buf: Pominville/Boyes
Dal: Benn
Edm: Hemsky
Nas: Hornqvist
NYI: Okposo/Comeau/Bailey
NYR: Dubinsky/Callahan
Stl: Backes/Stewart
Was: Semin
Win: Kane

So my question is what would their price be? I get that most of these people would be unlikely to be traded but I'd just like to figure out their cost.
lol

Really you're including players of the quality of Ryan on this list? There is no way that the Canucks can get a player of that quality without opening up a big hole by moving a player like Kesler or Edler.

Given the age and ability of many of the players you've listed, those are realistically the only two assets the Canucks have that would bring those kind of returns. Even a #1 draft pick, which is going to be a very late pick, from the Canucks has little value.

You should really have renamed this thread: Who is going to move premier top 6 player for spare parts? The answer: nobody.

Realistically, the only players I really see you have any chance of getting are Pominville/Boyes, but Buffalo has zero incentive to move them unless an upgrade is coming their way. Buffalo has just invested a lot into upgrading their defence. They want to be competitive and aren't about to chop up their top 6.

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Seriously, IF (IFFFFFF) MacArthur was not a one time producer, and stil has his current contract, given Toronto's needs for good forward prospects (Hodgson, Jensen) they might be suitable trading partners at the deadline.

He passes the puck well, is pretty gritty, and would suit up well with Kesler.

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NYR: Dubinsky/Callahan - Wanna part with Edler?
Don't think the Rangers trade either for Edler.

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Seriously, IF (IFFFFFF) MacArthur was not a one time producer, and stil has his current contract, given Toronto's needs for good forward prospects (Hodgson, Jensen) they might be suitable trading partners at the deadline.

He passes the puck well, is pretty gritty, and would suit up well with Kesler.
Like you said, if only he had more than 1 year of being at least that decent. Clarke can easily regress and end up being a horrible contract for Toronto. That risk might be too great for most teams. Especially at a 3.25m cap hit for 2yrs.

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