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07-20-2011, 11:40 PM
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Can't believe the vaunted professor of all things ahl hockey actually missed something.

Did you forget Omaha....which I believe proceeds Quad City.
Coorrect, I would google the name but it was something longer and bizarre I can't remember it. i wanna say it was something Knights.

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07-20-2011, 11:57 PM
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Omaha Ak-Sar-Ben Knights

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Technically Hamilton fits into this category, though it's more of a case of the Bulldogs owner having a minority stake in the Montreal Canadiens, which he acquired long after he bought the Bulldogs...

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07-21-2011, 01:32 PM
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Coorrect, I would google the name but it was something longer and bizarre I can't remember it. i wanna say it was something Knights.

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THE TRIBE WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT scenario than the 3 other markets----Omaha was not included bc of that purpose........

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07-21-2011, 05:34 PM
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Wrong... Detroit controls hockey operations.



http://www.fox17online.com/news/fox1...,4216978.story

Interesting, so it is not even a month old so until a month ago, GR did run theirs. They did the same thing when they allowed detroit to hire their head coach and run some stuff. When they start losing again, it will change.

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07-21-2011, 08:30 PM
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In every AHL city, it is the NHL club that runs the hockey operations of the team with the exception of Chicago and Hershey, to a much lesser degree.
Paul Fenton is the Assistant GM for Nashville and the GM for Milwaukee. Nashville appoints the Head Coach for Milwaukee and provides 90-95% of the players. This is why I stated that the team is locally owned. Harris Turer and company market the Ads and get butts in seats.

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07-21-2011, 11:25 PM
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THE TRIBE WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT scenario than the 3 other markets----Omaha was not included bc of that purpose........
What does the Cleveland Indians have to do with any of this?

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07-25-2011, 08:12 AM
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Here is a handy list I made up for a discussion over on the Norfolk Ads board. As you see not a lot of teams that aren't owned in some way by the parent club.


AHL Team NHL Team Affilated until
Springfield Falcons Columbus Blue Jackets 2011-12
Adirondack Phantoms Philadelphia Flyers 2011-12
Binghamton Senators Ottawa Senators 2011-12
Hershey Bears Washington Capitals 2011-12
Norfolk Admirals Tampa Bay Lighting 2011-12
Grand Rapids Griffins Detroit Red Wings 2011-12
Chicago Wolves Vancouver Canucks 2012-13
Milwaukee Admirals Nashville Predators 2012-13W/ OPTIONS
Providence Bruins Boston Bruins 2015-16
Syracuse Crunch Anaheim Ducks 2015-16 W/ OPTIONS
Lake Erie Monsters Colorado Avalanche 2016-17 W/ OPTIONS
Rockford IceHogs Chicago Blackhawks 2016-2017
Bridgeport Sound Tigers New York Islanders Owned By NHL Team
Connecticut Whale New York Rangers Owned By NHL Team
Manchester Monarchs Los Angeles Kings Owned By NHL Team
Worcester Sharks San Jose Sharks Owned By NHL Team
Albany Devils New Jersey Devils Owned By NHL Team
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins Pittsburgh Penguins Owned By NHL Team
Abbotsford Heat Calagary Flames Owned By NHL Team
Hamilton Bulldogs Montreal Canadians Owned By NHL Team
Rochester Americans Buffalo Sabres Owned By NHL Team
St. John's AHL team Winnipeg Jets Owned By NHL Team
Toronto Marlies Toronto Maple Leafs Owned By NHL Team
Houston Aeros Minnesota Wild Owned By NHL Team
Oklahoma City Barons Edmonton Oilers Owned By NHL Team
Peoria Rivermen St. Louis Blues Owned By NHL Team
Texas Stars Dallas Stars Owned By NHL Team
Portland Pirates Phoenix Coyotes UNKNOWN
Charlotte Checkers Carolina Hurricanes UNKNOWN
San Antonio Rampage Florida Panthers UNKNOWN

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07-25-2011, 02:41 PM
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Here is a handy list I made up for a discussion over on the Norfolk Ads board. As you see not a lot of teams that aren't owned in some way by the parent club.


AHL Team NHL Team Affilated until
Springfield Falcons Columbus Blue Jackets 2011-12
Adirondack Phantoms Philadelphia Flyers 2011-12
Binghamton Senators Ottawa Senators 2011-12
Hershey Bears Washington Capitals 2011-12
Norfolk Admirals Tampa Bay Lighting 2011-12
Grand Rapids Griffins Detroit Red Wings 2011-12
Chicago Wolves Vancouver Canucks 2012-13
Milwaukee Admirals Nashville Predators 2012-13W/ OPTIONS
Providence Bruins Boston Bruins 2015-16
Syracuse Crunch Anaheim Ducks 2015-16 W/ OPTIONS
Lake Erie Monsters Colorado Avalanche 2016-17 W/ OPTIONS
Rockford IceHogs Chicago Blackhawks 2016-2017
Bridgeport Sound Tigers New York Islanders Owned By NHL Team
Connecticut Whale New York Rangers Owned By NHL Team
Manchester Monarchs Los Angeles Kings Owned By NHL Team
Worcester Sharks San Jose Sharks Owned By NHL Team
Albany Devils New Jersey Devils Owned By NHL Team
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins Pittsburgh Penguins Owned By NHL Team
Abbotsford Heat Calagary Flames Owned By NHL Team
Hamilton Bulldogs Montreal Canadians Owned By NHL Team
Rochester Americans Buffalo Sabres Owned By NHL Team
St. John's AHL team Winnipeg Jets Owned By NHL Team
Toronto Marlies Toronto Maple Leafs Owned By NHL Team
Houston Aeros Minnesota Wild Owned By NHL Team
Oklahoma City Barons Edmonton Oilers Owned By NHL Team
Peoria Rivermen St. Louis Blues Owned By NHL Team
Texas Stars Dallas Stars Owned By NHL Team
Portland Pirates Phoenix Coyotes UNKNOWN
Charlotte Checkers Carolina Hurricanes UNKNOWN
San Antonio Rampage Florida Panthers UNKNOWN
So 15 is not a lot? Also, the Whale may be owned by the rangers but i thought they were not run by them..

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07-25-2011, 02:50 PM
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Here is a handy list I made up for a discussion over on the Norfolk Ads board. As you see not a lot of teams that aren't owned in some way by the parent club.


AHL Team NHL Team Affilated until
Springfield Falcons Columbus Blue Jackets 2011-12
Adirondack Phantoms Philadelphia Flyers 2011-12
Binghamton Senators Ottawa Senators 2011-12
Hershey Bears Washington Capitals 2011-12
Norfolk Admirals Tampa Bay Lighting 2011-12
Grand Rapids Griffins Detroit Red Wings 2011-12
Chicago Wolves Vancouver Canucks 2012-13
Milwaukee Admirals Nashville Predators 2012-13W/ OPTIONS
Providence Bruins Boston Bruins 2015-16
Syracuse Crunch Anaheim Ducks 2015-16 W/ OPTIONS
Lake Erie Monsters Colorado Avalanche 2016-17 W/ OPTIONS
Rockford IceHogs Chicago Blackhawks 2016-2017
Bridgeport Sound Tigers New York Islanders Owned By NHL Team
Connecticut Whale New York Rangers Owned By NHL Team
Manchester Monarchs Los Angeles Kings Owned By NHL Team
Worcester Sharks San Jose Sharks Owned By NHL Team
Albany Devils New Jersey Devils Owned By NHL Team
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins Pittsburgh Penguins Owned By NHL Team
Abbotsford Heat Calagary Flames Owned By NHL Team
Hamilton Bulldogs Montreal Canadians Owned By NHL Team
Rochester Americans Buffalo Sabres Owned By NHL Team
St. John's AHL team Winnipeg Jets Owned By NHL Team
Toronto Marlies Toronto Maple Leafs Owned By NHL Team
Houston Aeros Minnesota Wild Owned By NHL Team
Oklahoma City Barons Edmonton Oilers Owned By NHL Team
Peoria Rivermen St. Louis Blues Owned By NHL Team
Texas Stars Dallas Stars Owned By NHL Team
Portland Pirates Phoenix Coyotes UNKNOWN
Charlotte Checkers Carolina Hurricanes UNKNOWN
San Antonio Rampage Florida Panthers UNKNOWN
Portland's the same as we've had w/ BUF/ANA 5 years..... only ? IS THE ARENA bond past 2011-12

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07-25-2011, 03:37 PM
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So 15 is not a lot? Also, the Whale may be owned by the rangers but i thought they were not run by them..
The Whale is owned by the Rangers, but I believe that the Rangers handed off the local business operations to the Whalers this past season.

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The Whale is owned by the Rangers, but I believe that the Rangers handed off the local business operations to the Whalers this past season.
I thought they were actually owned by MSG?

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I thought they were actually owned by MSG?
they are but Baldwin and his group run the franchise, even MSG no longer holds the rights to operate XL, HENCE the weird name change last Thanksgiving, even though it's still essentially the same franchise.......

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07-25-2011, 07:46 PM
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Here is a handy list I made up for a discussion over on the Norfolk Ads board. As you see not a lot of teams that aren't owned in some way by the parent club.


AHL Team NHL Team Affilated until
Springfield Falcons Columbus Blue Jackets 2011-12
Adirondack Phantoms Philadelphia Flyers 2011-12
Binghamton Senators Ottawa Senators 2011-12
Hershey Bears Washington Capitals 2011-12
Norfolk Admirals Tampa Bay Lighting 2011-12
Grand Rapids Griffins Detroit Red Wings 2011-12
Chicago Wolves Vancouver Canucks 2012-13
Milwaukee Admirals Nashville Predators 2012-13W/ OPTIONS
Providence Bruins Boston Bruins 2015-16
Syracuse Crunch Anaheim Ducks 2015-16 W/ OPTIONS
Lake Erie Monsters Colorado Avalanche 2016-17 W/ OPTIONS
Rockford IceHogs Chicago Blackhawks 2016-2017
Bridgeport Sound Tigers New York Islanders Owned By NHL Team
Connecticut Whale New York Rangers Owned By NHL Team
Manchester Monarchs Los Angeles Kings Owned By NHL Team
Worcester Sharks San Jose Sharks Owned By NHL Team
Albany Devils New Jersey Devils Owned By NHL Team
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins Pittsburgh Penguins Owned By NHL Team
Abbotsford Heat Calagary Flames Owned By NHL Team
Hamilton Bulldogs Montreal Canadians Owned By NHL Team
Rochester Americans Buffalo Sabres Owned By NHL Team
St. John's AHL team Winnipeg Jets Owned By NHL Team
Toronto Marlies Toronto Maple Leafs Owned By NHL Team
Houston Aeros Minnesota Wild Owned By NHL Team
Oklahoma City Barons Edmonton Oilers Owned By NHL Team
Peoria Rivermen St. Louis Blues Owned By NHL Team
Texas Stars Dallas Stars Owned By NHL Team
Portland Pirates Phoenix Coyotes UNKNOWN
Charlotte Checkers Carolina Hurricanes UNKNOWN
San Antonio Rampage Florida Panthers UNKNOWN
The Texas Stars are not owned by the Dallas Stars. They are owned by Hicks Cedar Park LLC, while the Dallas Stars are currently owned by Hicks Sports Group. Hicks Cedar Park LLC is owned by Tom Hicks children while Hicks Sports Group is owned by Tom Hicks. The Dallas Stars are going to go through bankruptcy here in the next couple of months and at which point they will have a new owner. Texas Stars are not part of the deal and will be retained by Hicks Cedar Park LLC, since they are in fact a different ownership group than Hicks Sports Group who defaulted on their loan years ago. The Texas Stars have a 10 year affiliation agreement with Dallas and a 25 year lease on their arena.

http://www.texasstarshockey.com/team/ownership/
http://hundreddegreehockey.blogspot....ect-texas.html

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07-26-2011, 09:42 AM
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I thought they were actually owned by MSG?
Basically the same thing. No different than when the Flyers/Comast owned the Phantoms.

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The Texas Stars are not owned by the Dallas Stars. They are owned by Hicks Cedar Park LLC, while the Dallas Stars are currently owned by Hicks Sports Group. Hicks Cedar Park LLC is owned by Tom Hicks children while Hicks Sports Group is owned by Tom Hicks. The Dallas Stars are going to go through bankruptcy here in the next couple of months and at which point they will have a new owner. Texas Stars are not part of the deal and will be retained by Hicks Cedar Park LLC, since they are in fact a different ownership group than Hicks Sports Group who defaulted on their loan years ago. The Texas Stars have a 10 year affiliation agreement with Dallas and a 25 year lease on their arena.

http://www.texasstarshockey.com/team/ownership/
http://hundreddegreehockey.blogspot....ect-texas.html
Correct, much in the same manner as baseball's Texas League Frisco Roughriders. Once owned by the Hicks family and now owned by Mandalay Entertainment. The Hicks family set both up separately due to the real estate deals with their minor league teams... Expect the Cedar Park development to be similar to the Frisco development eventually... Williamson County is growing fast...

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