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07-20-2011, 05:45 PM
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I'm not sure how venting behind someone's back to a reporter who does nothing with the info for 13 years counts as accountable.
I don't see how because it came out now it didn't come out then in private.

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07-20-2011, 06:18 PM
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In case anybody was actually wondering, the point of this thread was to give the people who love doing so a chance to take shots at Osgood.
You're making false accusations.
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Again.

I posted this thread because I thought it was out of the ordinary and I was curious about the subject of Ozzie's rant.

But you get all defensive because Ozzie is your L'il cuddly-wuddly buddy

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07-20-2011, 06:19 PM
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I don't see how because it came out now it didn't come out then in private.
Really?
I don't see any evidence that it did.

If you make someone accountable, you go up and say it to them.
You don't go seethe behind the dumpster.

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07-20-2011, 06:42 PM
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I found it annoying and refreshing at the same time that Osgood said that he'd have signed for this year (basically lying about his health to get a contract) to get that 400th win. I remember saying that in posts last year prior to him winning #400.

I like the honesty and know he's been a great team player over the years. You have to be a bit selfish to be a very good player in this league but he had to have known he's hurt the team last year and would've hurt the team this year since his body would've broken down by December. So good on him for realizing he's achieved his goals and it's time to bow out.
In the same article where he talks about the team winning, and saying some other guy is a jerk, he readily admits that had he not won #400, he would have come back. The honesty is refreshing, but he just admitted that he would have put himself and his record above team needs. The only thing that prevented this was that he reached some arbitrary number. Does it really matter or change his legacy if he had won 398?

Edit: Correction. Not sure if it was the same article, or one of the others that KK's site had about his retirement.

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07-20-2011, 06:57 PM
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Ozzie looks over at me and says, "We won the Stanley Cup. We, the Detroit Red Wings, won the Cup. Each one of us in that room made a contribution. We won because we are a team.

"So what happens right after we win?"

I reply, "I don't know. What?"

"He (teammate) goes on TV and says that he played hurt during the playoffs, that's why his numbers were not very good," Osgood says. "What a self-centered jerk."

For the next 30 minutes, Ozzie railed on this teammate, saying over and over that instead of pointing out that he played injured, he should have lauded the players who stepped up.

"That's what a teammate does," Osgood says. "What a phony."
Can someone tell me why Ozzie should be mad at someone who said he played hurt? You know, when I was a kid, I used to get mad at people who would make vulgar jokes about women. lol I was such a sweetheart. (not that I make such jokes now) Is this case similar or something totally different? Did Ozzie take this 'teammate' thing bit too serious or something I'm missing?

Anyways as far as I'm concerned, it water under the bridge. Nothing to fret about especially considering that Ozzie just retired. Though it would be fun figuring out who that person might be. Cuz that's what fans do.

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I find it hard to believe anyone would be making excuses for themselves after a SC victory. Unless, ya.....must have been a contract year.

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07-20-2011, 07:55 PM
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You're making false accusations.
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Again.

I posted this thread because I thought it was out of the ordinary and I was curious about the subject of Ozzie's rant.
Of course. That must be it. That this curiosity just happens to allow one to paint Osgood in a less than flattering light is, I'm sure, a total coincidence.

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07-20-2011, 08:14 PM
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Of course. That must be it. That this curiosity just happens to allow one to paint Osgood in a less than flattering light is, I'm sure, a total coincidence.




Yawn.

Do you hear me criticizing Ozzie? No. And I'm the guy who made the thread, right?

I've read lots of hockey biographies, and these things go on in every dressing room.

I would have posted this if it was about Stevie grousing or Shanny complaining.


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07-20-2011, 09:37 PM
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"A few years ago, I took Osgood on a tour of the neighborhood I grew up in -- the mean streets of the Livonia/Westland border of Joy Road."

Is this guy on drugs? "mean streats" ???!!! That's the heart of surburbia!!!

This article has zero credibility.

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07-21-2011, 07:11 AM
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Ah... Needless drama. Where would the human race be without it?

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07-21-2011, 07:47 AM
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Ah... Needless drama. Where would the human race be without it?
See: Boards, HF

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07-21-2011, 08:18 AM
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See: Boards, HF

Hardly limited to this one. In fact, HF is pretty tame on the drama front compared to a few places out there.


@Melbourne. Yeah, when I think of troubled cities, Livonia isn't really at the top of the local list.

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07-21-2011, 09:08 AM
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Hardly limited to this one. In fact, HF is pretty tame on the drama front compared to a few places out there.


@Melbourne. Yeah, when I think of troubled cities, Livonia isn't really at the top of the local list.
Pretty obvious that Regner was joking around with that comment.
Peace River Alberta isn't exactly a crimebed either.

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07-21-2011, 09:35 AM
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Pretty obvious that Regner was joking around with that comment.
Peace River Alberta isn't exactly a crimebed either.

Are you risking a heat stroke and going to the art fair? I went for a couple hours yesterday AM. I'm not going to bother going outside today, if it can be avoided.

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Hardly limited to this one. In fact, HF is pretty tame on the drama front compared to a few places out there.


@Melbourne. Yeah, when I think of troubled cities, Livonia isn't really at the top of the local list.
Yeah well, I don't visit many forums, so my exposure is limited.

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07-21-2011, 10:52 AM
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Are you risking a heat stroke and going to the art fair? I went for a couple hours yesterday AM. I'm not going to bother going outside today, if it can be avoided.
Hah. No thank you.
Art Fair isn't my cup of tea if it was sunny and 72.

BRUTAL heat.

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07-21-2011, 11:16 AM
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Yawn.

Do you hear me criticizing Ozzie? No.
"If you make someone accountable, you go up and say it to them.
You don't go seethe behind the dumpster."

Of course, that doesn't really count as 'criticism' to you, right?

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I would have posted this if it was about Stevie grousing or Shanny complaining.
I really, really believe you. No, really.

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07-21-2011, 01:28 PM
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"If you make someone accountable, you go up and say it to them.
You don't go seethe behind the dumpster."

Of course, that doesn't really count as 'criticism' to you, right?
That's not a criticism of Ozzie. That's a criticism of the attempt to say that Ozzie should be credited for making a player accountable.


I don't think Ozzie should be judged for being pissed and talking to a reporter about it. By the same token, I don't think he should put on a pedestal for it.

That's not too nuanced for you to understand, right?

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07-22-2011, 01:12 AM
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Are you risking a heat stroke and going to the art fair? I went for a couple hours yesterday AM. I'm not going to bother going outside today, if it can be avoided.
I thought about going myself...til I tried to drive back from work through downtown Ann Arbor, and realized that spending hours in that maze of tents to the tune of 105 degrees or so...not my brand of vodka.

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07-22-2011, 09:38 AM
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That's not a criticism of Ozzie.
No no no... of course it isn't. Why, the phrase 'You don't go seethe behind the dumpster' is entirely and completely ambivalent with no implied derision or criticism.

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I don't think Ozzie should be judged for being pissed and talking to a reporter about it.
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That's not too nuanced for you to understand, right?
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