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07-26-2011, 09:09 AM
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Top 25 Centers in the NHL

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07-26-2011, 10:10 AM
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Think Kesler is too low

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Love Bolland, and I'm glad to see him getting some recognition, but he really hasn't done enough to be on that list.

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yeah, surprised to see Bolland make it. And honestly surprised to see Toews at 3.

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Mike Richards is way too high. Kopitar is going to be the #1 on that team.

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On the other end of the spectrum...Kopitar at #19 seems too low

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On the other end of the spectrum...Kopitar at #19 seems too low
Yea, I guess I should have clarified that I don't so much think Richards is necessarily too high, just that he has to be lower than Kopitar.

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Kesler was better than Toews last year. When you win a Stanley Cup the Conn Smythe a gold medal--voted a top forward at the Olympics plus finish as a Selke finalist I think they count all that stuff. Toews at #5 is fair and a good year at #3 is fair as well. He will need to build on his career best in points in order to keep the spot. I think Toews deserves to be ahead of Kesler because he had back to back excellent years. Kesler had his first outstanding year, but it takes many solid years to crack the top five.

Niklas Backstom had an off year and was listed at #15...normally he would be a top ten. It just takes consistency and that is obviously factored in these scores.

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Basically, this list is awful. I think he looked at the player ratings on NHL 11 and then just picked his favorites.

Problems: Since when has Backes ever been a center? Kopitar is too low, M. Richards too high. Even I think Toews at 3 is ridiculous. Bolland's good, but not that good. I have a problem with no Weiss or Pavelski.

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Nice to see Bolland get some credit here. He's gotta be one of the most underrated players in the NHL - even by his own fans in some cases (see the comments in this very thread).

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Bolland shouldn't be in the top 25 but at the same time, I'd take him over some of the guys people want there instead if I'm trying to build a Cup winner.

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Toews is listed where he should be. He's 23 years old and a franchise player that does it at both ends of the rink. As of right now, if every gm in the league could choose the top 5 players in the game to build a team around; I'm sure Toews would be in the top 5 in every gm's list.

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07-26-2011, 12:54 PM
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Bolland imo is a top 25 center in the league. Bolland's career has started as a mirror image to Kesler's in terms of points and his role with their teams. If Bolland get's more pp time and plays 2nd line minutes, his offensive numbers will rise. There's a reason his post season point totals have been high; he is on the ice all the time. As everyone knows, Bolland put up big numbers in jr and he is only 25. He could get 60 this yr if given the opportunity.

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Bolland imo is a top 25 center in the league. Bolland's career has started as a mirror image to Kesler's in terms of points and his role with their teams. If Bolland get's more pp time and plays 2nd line minutes, his offensive numbers will rise. There's a reason his post season point totals have been high; he is on the ice all the time. As everyone knows, Bolland put up big numbers in jr and he is only 25. He could get 60 this yr if given the opportunity.
Most of what you say is potential. Technically, Bolland hasn't even proved that he can be a 2nd line center (or stay healthy consistently) and you're calling him Top 25 in a 30 team league? I love Bolland. I think he has a ton of potential and is underrated, but he is not yet a Top 25 center.

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Bolland next thing you know his contract will be up in a few years...And he will be a 60-75 point guy asking for 5m a year. He better not ask for 5m unless he hits 75 points.

He has yet to hit 60 points...Bolland played in 61 games last year and 39 games the year before. If he can play 75 games this year 60 points should be easy.


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Think of the Bolland ranking this way...

All teams in the league have their rosters swept clean and the GM's are going to re-draft their teams. In the first round of the draft you must select a center. You can only sign a player to a one year deal and then the teams get swept clean again after the season. Would Dave Bolland be one of the first 25 picks? Not a chance.

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Most of what you say is potential. Technically, Bolland hasn't even proved that he can be a 2nd line center (or stay healthy consistently) and you're calling him Top 25 in a 30 team league? I love Bolland. I think he has a ton of potential and is underrated, but he is not yet a Top 25 center.
No I believe he is a top 25 center in the nhl. Reg season does mean a lot but the post season is where it's at. Bolland could have arguably have won the Conn Smythe and he was probably our best forward this year. Maybe your criteria is different then mine in selecting a top 25 center in the nhl.
I'm saying Bolland would get points if on the top pp and Steady 2nd line minutes. Jordan Stall is a top 25 center in my book and he plays on the 3rd line as well.

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No I believe he is a top 25 center in the nhl. Reg season does mean a lot but the post season is where it's at. Bolland could have arguably have won the Conn Smythe and he was probably our best forward this year. Maybe your criteria is different then mine in selecting a top 25 center in the nhl.
I'm saying Bolland would get points if on the top pp and Steady 2nd line minutes. Jordan Stall is a top 25 center in my book and he plays on the 3rd line as well.
See post #18

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Bolland next thing you know his contract will be up in a few years...And he will be a 60-75 point guy asking for 5m a year. He better not ask for 5m unless he hits 75 points.

He has yet to hit 60 points...Bolland played in 61 games last year and 39 games the year before. If he can play 75 games this year 60 points should be easy.
In 3 seasons, we'll know if he's worth it or not. That deal actually had a lot of foresight in it. Bolland is worth his rate now and I expect the value of that deal to only get better provided he can stay healthy (that's the big question mark).

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If you're into shiny stats, then Bolland is not your man. If you're in it to win the cup, then he is your man.

For example - say the Hawks traded Bolland for Henrik Sedin. The chances of winning the presidents trophy goes up, but the Hawks also become a more beatable team in the playoffs. I'll stick with Bolly.

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Think of the Bolland ranking this way...

All teams in the league have their rosters swept clean and the GM's are going to re-draft their teams. In the first round of the draft you must select a center. You can only sign a player to a one year deal and then the teams get swept clean again after the season. Would Dave Bolland be one of the first 25 picks? Not a chance.
No he would not be picked as a center in that scenario. All teams would be looking for a 1st line center.

Change the scenario 8 teams going into the playoffs that all have 1st line centers. They all need to add another center. Dave Bollands phone would be ringing like a mad man.

Bollands value is in the playoffs and defense.

I wouldn't pick him in my top 25 centers because I wouldn't be looking for intangibles. Intangibles clearly have value and sometimes more value than points and statistics.

If he is not in my top 25 and he is not Bolland is in the top 30

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If you're into shiny stats, then Bolland is not your man. If you're in it to win the cup, then he is your man.

For example - say the Hawks traded Bolland for Henrik Sedin. The chances of winning the presidents trophy goes up, but the Hawks also become a more beatable team in the playoffs. I'll stick with Bolly.
I think they'd be ok with Toews, H. Sedin, Sharp up the middle.

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Think of the Bolland ranking this way...

All teams in the league have their rosters swept clean and the GM's are going to re-draft their teams. In the first round of the draft you must select a center. You can only sign a player to a one year deal and then the teams get swept clean again after the season. Would Dave Bolland be one of the first 25 picks? Not a chance.
I value your opinion but I guess I evaluate talent differently. bolland would be drafted in the top 25. He is a winner and has won at every level he has played. Went heads up in jr against Crosby to win the mem cup.....doesn't allow the Sedins, Thornton or Mike Richards an even strength goal during the cup run......got chicago to a game 7 upon his return. Pretty impressive to me! I bet he will be on the radar for team Canada the next Olympics; he's a proven shut down guy.

Do your gm draft for the playoffs with all 30 teams making the playoffs. He may not be listed as the number one center but he played the most min of any forward during the cup run if i'm not mistaken. Who's ahead of him. Spezza, Weiss, Statsny??

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